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Pain Of Salvation Survivor 2017 - Main thread
« on: January 01, 2017, 01:22:14 PM »
Hi everyone! I want to start the survivor tomorrow with Entropia.
This survivor will include also the new upcoming album. We will vote for that one in April or May. I know that maybe it's a bit too early, but I want to start the survivor now that I'm listening a lot PoS, and I think that voting 2 or 3 months after April won't change much, it will be still difficult to compare new songs with the historical ones.

Rules:
Polls will last 1 day.

For every album the first two songs goes directly to the finals, the 3rd and 4th classified goes to consolations.

The consolations will have 20 songs: 18 coming from 3rd and 4th classified of each album and 2 coming from non-album tracks/bonus tracks. Every album survivor won't include their respective bonus tracks, and for the non-album/bonus tracks I don't want to do a survivor but there will be a poll lasting 2 days where everyone will vote for their two favourite tracks and the ones that will receive more votes will participate to consolations. In case of ties there will be a tiebreaker and if there will be another tie I will promote more songs into consolations.
So in the finals there will be 24 songs:
 - 2 songs from every of the 9 albums
 - 5 songs from Consolations
 - 1 song from another secret round that I won't explain now.

The finals will be played with the rules of the DT League and of the Leprous Survivor I did some months ago. I think that with this formula there can't be doubts that the winner song will be the favourite one of DTF.

In between Road Salt Two and In The Passing Light Of Day survivor, I could do a survivor for Falling Home or 12:5 if the majority of people is interested. However no songs from those albums will enter to finals or consolations. You can comment on this thread and say if you want one of these two survivors, otherwise I won't do them.

I will do an album survivor for sure in between Road Salt Two and the ITPLOD to crown the favourite PoS album, to delay a bit the ITPLOD survivor.

ENTROPIA



 
1- Nightmist
2- !(Foreword)

3- Revival
4- People Passing By

5- Plains Of Dawn
6- Oblivion Ocean
7- Winning A War
8- Stress
9- To The End
10- Void Of Her
11- Circles
12- Leaving Entropia (Epilogue)
13- Welcome To Entropia


ONE HOUR BY THE CONCRETE LAKE



 
1- Inside
2- Handful Of Nothing

3- New Year's Eve
4- Inside Out

5- Home
6- Black Hills
7- The Big Machine
8- Water
9- Pilgrim
10- Shore Serenity
11- Spirit Of The Land


THE PERFECT ELEMENT PT. 1



 
1- Idioglossia
2- The Perfect Element

3- Used
4- Her Voices

5- In The Flesh
6- King Of Loss
7- Ashes
8- Reconciliation
9- Song For The Innocent
10- Morning On Earth
11- Dedication
12- Falling


REMEDY LANE



 
1- A Trace Of Blood
2- Undertow

3- Beyond The Pale
4- Rope Ends

5- Chain Sling
6- Ending Theme
7- Second Love
8- This Heart Of Mine (I Pledge)
9- Dryad Of The Woods
10- Waking Every God
11- Of Two Beginnings
12- Fandango
13- Remedy Lane


BE



 
1- Iter Impius
2- Lilium Cruentus

3- Nihil Morari
4- Martius/Nauticus II

5- Diffidentia
6- Imago
7- Pluvius Aestivus
8- Omni
9- Dea Pecuniae
10- Latericius Valete
11- Nauticus
12/13- Vocari Dei / Deus Nova
14/15- Animae Partus I/II


SCARSICK



 
1- Enter Rain
2-Disco Queen

3- Flame To The Moth
4- Kingdom Of Loss

5- Scarsick
6- Spitfall
7- Cribcaged
8- Idiocracy
9- America
10- Mrs Modern Mother Mary


ROAD SALT ONE



 
1- Sisters
2- No Way

3- Linoleum
4- Road Salt

5- Where It Hurts
6- Of Dust
7- She Likes To Hide
8- Innocence
9- Tell Me You Don't Know
10- Darkness Of Mine
11- Curiosity
12- Sleeping Under The Stars


ROAD SALT TWO



 
1- The Physics Of Gridlock
2- The Deeper Cut

3- Healing Now
4- Mortar Grind

5- 1979
6- Through The Distance
7- To The Shoreline
8- Conditioned
9- Softly She Cries
10- Eleven
11- End Credits
12- Road Salt Theme


IN THE PASSING LIGHT OF DAY



 
1- On A Tuesday
2- The Passing Light Of Day

3- Full Throttle Tribe
4-Meaningless

5- If This Is The End
6- Silent Gold
7- Tongue Of God
8- Angels Of Broken Things
9- Reasons
10- The Taming Of A Beast


BONUS/NON-ALBUM TRACKS
 
1- Thorn Clown
2- Gone

3- Beyond The Mirror
4- Break Darling Break
5- Of Salt
6- Never Learn To Fly
7- Falling Home
8- Timeweaver's Tale
9- If You Wait
10- What She Means To Me


CONSOLATIONS

Q- Used
Q- Her Voices
Q- Beyond The Pale
Q- Rope Ends
Q- Nihil Morari


6- People Passing By
7- Full Throttle Tribe
8- Inside Out
9- Meaningless
10- Martius/Nauticus II
11- Revival
12- Linoleum
13- New Year's Eve
14- Thorn Clown
15- Mortar Grind
16- Flame To The Moth
17- Healing Now
18- Road Salt
20- Gone
20- Kingdom Of Loss


ALBUM SURVIVOR

1- The Perfect Element
2- Remedy Lane
3- In The Passing Light Of Day
4- Be
5- Entropia
6- One Hour By The Concrete Lake
7- Road Salt Two
8- Road Salt One
9- Scarsick

« Last Edit: June 28, 2017, 12:55:29 PM by LordCost »
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Re: Pain Of Salvation Survivor 2017 - Main thread
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2017, 01:56:14 PM »
Yea, if you are doing bonus songs in their own poll, then I'd say leave off 12:5 and Falling Home (the album).
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Re: Pain Of Salvation Survivor 2017 - Main thread
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2017, 02:21:08 PM »
I ran this thing a couple of years ago. I still have the results somewhere if you're interested. Of course I will join in to vote as well.
Hey dude slow the fuck down so we can finish together at the same time.  :biggrin:
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Re: Pain Of Salvation Survivor 2017 - Main thread
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2017, 03:23:27 PM »
I ran this thing a couple of years ago. I still have the results somewhere if you're interested. Of course I will join in to vote as well.
I was watching the results two weeks ago, it was in 2013. Iter Impius won in the end, quite unexpected for me.
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Re: Pain Of Salvation Survivor 2017 - Main thread
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2017, 01:06:42 PM »
I think I'll have to sit out TPE round, since I love all of those songs so damn much. I appreciate the "just seeing the results" option.
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Re: Pain Of Salvation Survivor 2017 - Main thread
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2017, 03:04:25 PM »
I took the idea from the user who is running the Yes survivor, I realized it 1 minute before creating the poll for Entropia ;)

I have changed one thing about the rules and deciding to promote 2 songs out of 10 of the non album tracks to consolations, not only one.
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Re: Pain Of Salvation Survivor 2017 - Main thread
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2017, 02:01:19 PM »
Unless big surprises these are the songs qualified for consolations:

Revival
People Passing By
New Year's Eve
Inside Out
Used
Her Voices
Beyond The Pale
Rope Ends
Nihil Morari
Martius/Nauticus II
Flame To The Moth
Kingdom Of Loss
Linoleum
Road Salt
Healing Now
Mortar Grind
Full Thottle Tribe
Meaningless
Thorn Clown
Gone

5 songs out of 20 will advance. It's such a high quality consolations round :metal

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Re: Pain Of Salvation Survivor 2017 - Main thread
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2017, 01:42:01 PM »
http://tournamentscheduler.net/schedule/NDU1MTAwODk0Ng

I generated the schedule for the finals :metal
I already see impossible matches to vote for.
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Re: Pain Of Salvation Survivor 2017 - Main thread
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2017, 06:43:51 AM »
Championship calendar matches: http://tournamentscheduler.net/schedule/NDU1MTAwODk0Ng

Last chance round which promotes In The Flesh as last finalist: http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=50438.0

Final rounds:
Round 1: http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=50451.0
Round 2: http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=50463.0
Round 3: http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=50474.0
Round 4: http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=50482.0
Round 5: http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=50501.0
Round 6: http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=50512.0
Round 7: http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=50527.0
Round 8: http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=50539.0
Round 9: http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=50557.0
Round 10: http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=50589.0
Round 11: http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=50604.0
Round 12: http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=50622.0
Round 13: http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=50644.0
Round 14: http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=50663.0
Round 15: http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=50687.0
Round 16: http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=50693.0
Round 17: http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=50711.0
Round 18: http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=50730.0
Round 19: http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=50741.0
Round 20: http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=50752.0
Round 21: http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=50773.0
Round 22: http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=50782.0
Round 23: http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=50801.0

Results:

Undertow: 64 (+114)  WINNER!!

Idioglossia: 62 (+85)  2nd PLACE

Iter Impius: 61 (+85)  3rd PLACE

4)Beyond The Pale: 60 (+130)  BEST VOTE DIFFERENCE

5)The Perfect Element: 58 (+97)

6)On A Tuesday: 53 (+81)

7)Used: 47 (+68)

8)A Trace Of Blood: 47 (+51)

9)Rope Ends: 45 (+51)

10)The Passing Light Of Day: 43 (+32)

11)In The Flesh: 37 (+16)

12)Lilium Cruentus: 34 (-19)

13)Nightmist: 33 (+9)

14)Her Voices: 30 (+2)

15) !(Foreword): 29 (-1)

16)Nihil Morari: 27 (-1)

17)Enter Rain: 19 (-92)

18)Handful Of Nothing: 14 (-50)

19)Inside: 13 (-98)

20)Disco Queen: 11 (-94)

21)Sisters: 10 (-101)

22)The Deeper Cut: 10 (-110)

23)The Physics Of Gridlock: 4 (-136)  WORST VOTE DIFFERENCE

24)No Way: 1 (-120)

Final round: Used - A Trace Of Blood ended 5-5 and they remains tied even at last round.
No Way fails to win its first match against Sisters and ends the finals with 22 losses and 1 tie.
Last round surpasses:
Rope Ends over ITPLOD,
Lilium Cruentus over Nightmist
! (Foreword) over Nihil Morari
Sisters over The Deeper Cut

Thank you all for voting until the very end  :tup
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Re: Pain Of Salvation Survivor 2017 - Main thread
« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2017, 03:09:09 AM »
Thanks for running this  :tup

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« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2017, 01:31:17 PM »
Thank you indeed! It was fun (even though the final results are completely wrong  :corn  :hat )
Hey dude slow the fuck down so we can finish together at the same time.  :biggrin:
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« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2017, 01:33:18 PM »
Thanks! Nice to see Idioglossia get so much love.
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« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2017, 11:41:13 PM »
Thanks for organizing this! I don't agree with everything of course, but the results are pretty good. (Chain Sling should be in the Top 10 though. ;))

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Re: Pain Of Salvation Survivor 2017 - Main thread
« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2017, 12:20:09 PM »
I could have promoted more songs from the albums placed better in the Album survivor, like in the current Symphony X survivor, but I think the top four would have been the same. Next time I will do something shorter  :P
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