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How will it Sound?

It will sound great, making you forget that it's not the DT squad playing it.
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It'll sound alright, but there will be 'something' off a tad
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It's gonna be a trainwreck
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Re: Predictions for MP's Shattered Fortress Tour?
« Reply #175 on: February 11, 2017, 10:24:06 AM »
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Re: Predictions for MP's Shattered Fortress Tour?
« Reply #176 on: February 11, 2017, 10:45:22 AM »
I assume Eric Gillette was there because he plays so much like JP. Did he take most of the leads?

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Re: Predictions for MP's Shattered Fortress Tour?
« Reply #177 on: February 11, 2017, 11:49:01 AM »
No youtube vids yet?.. :-\
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Re: Predictions for MP's Shattered Fortress Tour?
« Reply #178 on: February 11, 2017, 12:53:39 PM »
I was kind of hoping MP's Shattered Fortress would've been someone I actually heard of.
Most of the musicians YOU have heard of are probably too old to play this material.

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Re: Predictions for MP's Shattered Fortress Tour?
« Reply #179 on: February 11, 2017, 12:55:03 PM »
I was kind of hoping MP's Shattered Fortress would've been someone I actually heard of.
Most of the musicians YOU have heard of are probably too old to play this material.

Dead even! :biggrin:

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Re: Predictions for MP's Shattered Fortress Tour?
« Reply #180 on: February 11, 2017, 02:00:37 PM »
Not surprised to see that Gillette and Haken both were used a lot.  Gillette's style was nearly patterned after JP's, and out of all of the DT clone bands of the last 20+ years, Haken is easily the best one.  Good choices (instrumentally, since I can't imagine Haken's singer sounding good singing DT material).

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« Reply #181 on: February 11, 2017, 02:42:00 PM »
No youtube vids yet?.. :-\
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« Reply #182 on: February 11, 2017, 02:44:52 PM »
No youtube vids yet?.. :-\

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« Reply #183 on: February 11, 2017, 02:47:11 PM »

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Re: Predictions for MP's Shattered Fortress Tour?
« Reply #184 on: February 11, 2017, 02:48:20 PM »
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« Reply #185 on: February 11, 2017, 02:50:43 PM »
Music sounds good in Glass Prison, but man, those vocals... :|

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« Reply #186 on: February 11, 2017, 02:54:37 PM »
He's not bad but he definitely doesn't have a metal voice, or even a rock voice. Too nice, no grit, no dirt.

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« Reply #187 on: February 11, 2017, 02:55:17 PM »
I hope there's some vids of Gildenlow singing, that's the one thing I really want to hear.
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« Reply #188 on: February 11, 2017, 03:08:35 PM »
I hope there's some vids of Gildenlow singing, that's the one thing I really want to hear.
I was hoping for Daniel G to sing all the suite. One of my favourites singers, no dout.
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« Reply #189 on: February 11, 2017, 03:27:06 PM »
Kwyjibo, I actually think Kev was talking about MP's vocals. They were LSFNY-ish.
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Re: Predictions for MP's Shattered Fortress Tour?
« Reply #190 on: February 11, 2017, 03:27:46 PM »
No youtube vids yet?.. :-\
This was uploaded just minutes ago!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sgzUl11LFQ

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Wow. There's 7 people on stage and they all barely move. Hell, Ross is the only one who walks around, but MP is actually showing the most energy. What's up with prog bands having terrible stage performances? :lol
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Re: Predictions for MP's Shattered Fortress Tour?
« Reply #191 on: February 11, 2017, 03:34:38 PM »
No youtube vids yet?.. :-\
This was uploaded just minutes ago!

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Wow. There's 7 people on stage and they all barely move. Hell, Ross is the only one who walks around, but MP is actually showing the most energy. What's up with prog bands having terrible stage performances? :lol

I'm sure that has everything to do with covering difficult music versus playing their own music that they've played hundreds of times.

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« Reply #192 on: February 11, 2017, 03:43:46 PM »
That and the motion of the ship.
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« Reply #193 on: February 11, 2017, 05:10:16 PM »
Kwyjibo, I actually think Kev was talking about MP's vocals. They were LSFNY-ish.

No, I was talking about the guy from Haken.  They should have him used on the softer parts of the suite; he doesn't have the power or grit to pull off The Glass Prison, like Kwyjibo said.

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Re: Predictions for MP's Shattered Fortress Tour?
« Reply #194 on: February 11, 2017, 05:12:14 PM »
I was kind of hoping MP's Shattered Fortress would've been someone I actually heard of.
Most of the musicians YOU have heard of are probably too old to play this material.

would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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Re: Predictions for MP's Shattered Fortress Tour?
« Reply #195 on: February 11, 2017, 05:41:40 PM »
Not HUGE on Ross Jennings, but he's easily a better singer than James LaBrie these days, all things being equal.

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« Reply #196 on: February 11, 2017, 05:51:56 PM »
Not HUGE on Ross Jennings, but he's easily a better singer than James LaBrie these days, all things being equal.

No way.  JLB has many struggles live, but he still has much more diversity, range and power in his voice than Jennings does.  No, JLB cannot do what he did when he was 29, but for a 53-year old man, who has belted it out as much over the years as he has on DT's countless tour dates, his voice has held up pretty well.

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« Reply #197 on: February 11, 2017, 05:54:10 PM »
Is Ross Jennings the Haken singer?
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« Reply #198 on: February 11, 2017, 05:55:40 PM »
Is Ross Jennings the Haken singer?

Yes. As much as I like some of their material, none of their stuff ever grabs me right away, because his vocals are always a hill to climb for me.  I tolerate them more than I like them.

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« Reply #199 on: February 11, 2017, 05:58:04 PM »
His vocals are much better over the last 2 albums and live he's a showman.
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« Reply #200 on: February 11, 2017, 06:21:10 PM »
Just listened to the first two tracks off the Restoration EP. Yeah, I'm gonna pass.
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« Reply #201 on: February 11, 2017, 06:25:07 PM »
3 guitar players?

and I agree, the singer's voice isn't really suited for the material. The music itself sounds decent enough though

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« Reply #202 on: February 11, 2017, 09:48:05 PM »
I was sure from day 1 that Mike would ask Eric and Diego to join him for these songs, but bringing the complete lineup from Haken (minus the drummer, of course) is a bit too much. Haken is one of my favorite bands after DT, but MP marketed his own band playing the TSS, not MP feat Haken & Eric Gillette, which is what ended up happening.

Still, the videos look like the performance was really cool, and those LTE classics with Tony... epic. Hope someone uploads more videos of th DT songs soon.
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« Reply #203 on: February 11, 2017, 09:50:00 PM »
Why 3 guitarists? That seems......excessive for covering a one guitar player band. Also seems to increase the chances of things going wrong.
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« Reply #204 on: February 11, 2017, 09:59:17 PM »
I can't believe you guys are actually complaining about those little things.. He played the entire suite, plus three LTE themes!.. Who cares with who he played it?...  I'm glad he acomplished this wish he had since he started writing the lyrics for these songs back in 2001..

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« Reply #205 on: February 11, 2017, 11:03:06 PM »
Why 3 guitarists? That seems......excessive for covering a one guitar player band. Also seems to increase the chances of things going wrong.

I mean.....this does nothing but bolster Petrucci's lore. It takes (3) guitarists to cover his guitar playing, and even then it's still just a really good cover band version of JP's sound.

I thought the vids sounded good, all those guys are truly talented and unreal players. But it felt 'off' to me. Not the playing per say but the atmosphere surrounding it. Just odd hearing/seeing MP perform those DT and LTE songs without the real line up.
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« Reply #206 on: February 11, 2017, 11:04:45 PM »
Why 3 guitarists? That seems......excessive for covering a one guitar player band. Also seems to increase the chances of things going wrong.

I mean.....this does nothing but bolster Petrucci's lore. It takes (3) guitarists to cover his guitar playing, and even then it's still just a really good cover band version of JP's sound.

I mean, that sounds cool, but it doesn't really take 3 guitarists. One of those guys who could done it just fine. I even get having two if you want the extra rhythm and trading off solos..........but three?
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« Reply #207 on: February 11, 2017, 11:12:21 PM »
The clip posted was amazing.   I'm honestly shocked at the reaction.     

Once a decade, I have one band that completely turns my head around and makes everything I ever loved about music seem new and fresh.   A band will come along and make me feel like a 12 year old "fanboy" all over again.   

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Re: Predictions for MP's Shattered Fortress Tour?
« Reply #208 on: February 12, 2017, 12:02:34 AM »
I agree the singer wasn't the most suited, although he wasn't bad either. It overall sounded great though.
Paradigm Shift I didn't think worked nearly as well. They're all great musicians, but it just didn't have that spontaneous energy without JP and especially JR. It fell a bit flat for me.
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« Reply #209 on: February 12, 2017, 12:03:52 AM »
I hope there's some vids of Gildenlow singing, that's the one thing I really want to hear.
I was hoping for Daniel G to sing all the suite. One of my favourites singers, no dout.
I've lost interest in PoS over the years, but yeah, Daniel would've been the one to pull this off. A bit surprised and bummed he wasn't used for the whole set. Hopefully MP will use him for the rest of the shows he's doing with TSF because Ross ain't cutting it from that clip of TGP.
 
 
bringing the complete lineup from Haken (minus the drummer, of course) is a bit too much. Haken is one of my favorite bands after DT, but MP marketed his own band playing the TSS, not MP feat Haken & Eric Gillette, which is what ended up happening.
Agreed. No problem with picking the bassist and keyboardist, but when you've got Eric there to do the guitar parts, that's enough right there. Or as someone said, having one of the other guitarists from Haken could be used, but both? Seems unnecessary. Had he used Daniel for the whole thing, I'd bet Daniel could've been the rhythm guitarist for the whole set so that there'd be no need for either of the Haken guitarists.
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