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Re: Dream Theater Survivor 2017 - Results & Discussion Thread
« Reply #35 on: February 06, 2017, 07:45:44 PM »
We are breezing through this! It's only been 5 weeks (ish) since the main survivor started, and we're already into Octavarium and Systematic Chaos!

The Astonishing could take a while to get through.

Yes, although I'm assuming that M's usual practice of multiple-voting for early rounds of long albums will make it go a little bit quicker than 34 days.

This is indeed the plan. The first round will allow voters to vote off 7 songs, which should help everyone vote off the NOMAC tracks, which I assume will all be the first to go anyways. Second round will have 6 votes, third to have 5 and so on and so forth. At the seventh round, it'll b e single-votes only, and single-song eliminations from there on out.

This is a practice I've done with many double-length LPs - The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway, Snow, and Testimony.

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« Reply #36 on: February 07, 2017, 01:26:30 AM »
Smart move for the Nomac tracks, didn't expect however an "early carnage" of so many songs!

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« Reply #37 on: February 07, 2017, 12:49:02 PM »
Well, typically, I try to cast out the X-number of songs that votes are allowed, so for the first round of TA, people will vote for 7 songs, so I will eliminate the 7 songs with the most votes, unless there's a tie along the way that results in either 6 or 8 songs. In which case, if the 8th (or above) tied song yields more votes than half the number of voters, they'll be eliminated anyway.

For example, let's say the 5 NOMAC tracks all go out, but then 3 more tracks all get 21 votes, and there are 40 voters. Those three tracks, in addition to the other 5, will all go out, resulting in 8 losers in the first round. It will vary by round, of course, depending on the results, but it should help expedite the process of elimination given that the album has 34 tracks.

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Re: Dream Theater Survivor 2017 - Results & Discussion Thread
« Reply #38 on: February 11, 2017, 02:28:25 PM »
Octavarium's Final Round's Results:
The Root Of All Evil 36 (83.7%)
Octavarium 7 (16.3%)

01. Octavarium
02. The Root Of All Evil

03. Sacrificed Sons
04. These Walls
05. Panic Attack
06. Never Enough
07. The Answer Lies Within
08. I Walk Beside You

As expected, the title-track epic places first, though what's a bit unexpected, the opening track (and continuation of "Octavarium") also follows the epic to the finals! "Sacrificed Sons" gets a second chance in the Consolation Rounds.

Systematic Chaos's Final Round's Results:
The Ministry Of Lost Souls 32 (82.1%)
In The Presence Of Enemies 7 (17.9%)

01. In The Presence Of Enemies
02. The Ministry Of Lost Souls

03. Forsaken
04. Constant Motion
05. The Dark Eternal Night
06. Repentance
07. Prophets Of War

The album's two longest tracks get to move on to the Finals, as almost anyone could have predicted. What few may have predicted was how CLOSE "Forsaken" made it, but it gets to go on to the Consolation Rounds.

Those two albums certainly had some intense rounds!!! Let's see how these next two go. As a heads up, I will be on a short vacation from the 16th to the 19th, but I will try to complete the ADTOE Survivor those nights when I can update. If not, it'll get completed whenever I get back. BC&SL should finish before I leave next Thursday.

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Re: Dream Theater Survivor 2017 - Results & Discussion Thread
« Reply #39 on: February 15, 2017, 02:16:52 PM »
Black Clouds & Silver Linings' Final Round's Results:
A Nightmare To Remember 35 (79.5%)
The Count Of Tuscany 9 (20.5%)

01. The Count Of Tuscany
02. A Nightmare To Remember

03. The Shattered Fortress
04. Wither
05. The Best Of Times
06. A Rite Of Passage

By an OVERWHELMING majority, TCOT takes the top spot while ANTR gets second, but both get to move on to the Finals, with TSF getting another chance in the Consolation Rounds. Now that the songs from the 12SS are done, it's interesting to note that "Repentance" was the only one of the five not to reach the Top 3 of it's respective album!

We'll be wrapping up ADTOE this week (hopefully I can update while I am away), then on Sunday night (or Monday morning), I will begin the rounds for The Astonishing and the B-Sides DT12!

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Re: Dream Theater Survivor 2017 - Results & Discussion Thread
« Reply #40 on: February 15, 2017, 03:35:36 PM »
What about DT12?
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Re: Dream Theater Survivor 2017 - Results & Discussion Thread
« Reply #41 on: February 15, 2017, 03:55:57 PM »
What about DT12?

WHOOPS! Got ahead of myself. Next week I will start TA and DT12. My bad  :facepalm:

AFTER DT12 finishes, I will start the B-Sides Survivor, and then after TA finishes, The Majesty Demos Survivor. Then after ALL of that, the road to finals - Consolation Rounds will begin!!!

Then, 33 rounds of Finals to determine the ultimate DT song in this survivor!

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« Reply #42 on: February 17, 2017, 08:40:28 AM »
I still can't believe we're onto the latest DT albums and it's only mid-February. I know there's still a fair way to go, but I was thinking we'd be at this point in late March or early April. Handy thing with running two albums at a time, I suppose.

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« Reply #43 on: February 17, 2017, 11:15:10 AM »
I still can't believe we're onto the latest DT albums and it's only mid-February. I know there's still a fair way to go, but I was thinking we'd be at this point in late March or early April. Handy thing with running two albums at a time, I suppose.

Two albums going at once and half the time to vote. This is flying by.

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« Reply #44 on: February 17, 2017, 11:50:35 AM »
What about DT12?
no, let's just forget that ever happened
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Re: Dream Theater Survivor 2017 - Results & Discussion Thread
« Reply #45 on: February 19, 2017, 11:10:55 PM »
A Dramatic Turn Of Events' Final Round's Results:
Bridges In The Sky 26 (76.5%)
Breaking All Illusions 8 (23.5%)

01. Breaking All Illusions
02. Bridges In The Sky

03. On The Backs Of Angels
04. Outcry
05. This Is The Life
06. Beneath The Surface
07. Lost Not Forgotten
08. Far From Heaven
09. Build Me Up, Break Me Down

This was a fairly predictable outcome, especially since the beginning when it seemed like both BAI and BITS would definitely go to the Finals, though I didn't expect OTBOA to make it to the Consolation over Outcry.

Whenever I get up tomorrow morning, I'll begin the first rounds for DT12 and TA (which will have a 7-vote option for every voter, so please be sure to vote for 7 tracks!).

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Re: Dream Theater Survivor 2017 - Results & Discussion Thread
« Reply #46 on: February 28, 2017, 07:35:47 PM »
Dream Theater's Final Round's Results:
Surrender To Reason 25 (61%)
Illumination Theory 16 (39%)

01. Illumination Theory
02. Surrender To Reason

03. The Bigger Picture
04. The Enemy Inside
05. Behind The Veil
06. The Looking Glass
07. Along For The Ride
08. Enigma Machine
09. False Awakening Suite

"The Bigger Picture" goes on to the Consolation Rounds, while the epic album closer "Illumination Theory" goes to the Finals with "Surrender To Reason". Overall, I'm surprised that "The Enemy Inside" made it so high up on the list, and above "Behind The Veil" no less, but other than that, I am pretty content with this final ranking.

Now we move on to the Cleaning Out The Closet/B-Sides/Non-Album Tracks Survivor, and when that is over, The Majesty Demos! One those are done, along with The Astonishing, the Consolation Rounds will begin (sometime around the the 17th or 18th of March). IF things plan out just right, the Finals will begin at the start of April (hopefully the 1st, if not, then the 2nd or 3rd). The Finals will carry us through early May. *nudge nudge*

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Re: Dream Theater Survivor 2017 - Results & Discussion Thread
« Reply #47 on: March 05, 2017, 01:18:35 PM »
Since a couple of the other band-survivors here are doing them, I've decided that, during the Consolation Rounds, I'll also start an Album Artwork survivor, covering the band's 13 studio albums, and perhaps I'll throw in ACOS (since it's cover art is very in-line with IAW and Awake).

During the Finals, I may do one or two more spin-off survivors. If anyone has any ideas or suggestions, feel free to lob them at me here. I had thought about doing "Vocals" and "Instruments" survivors, or perhaps do a Live Album survivor (covering the 8 major live albums released officially by the band). I could also do a "Singles Survivor", pitting the 26 officially released singles from the band (according to the Dream Theater discography wiki page). That could be a fun one as I don't think I've seen a "Singles Survivor" before.

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Re: Dream Theater Survivor 2017 - Results & Discussion Thread
« Reply #48 on: March 05, 2017, 03:05:58 PM »
Cover artworks and live albums sound fun!

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« Reply #49 on: March 11, 2017, 07:29:07 PM »
Cleaning Out The Closet & Other B-Sides' Final Round's Results:
A Change Of Seasons 1 (3.6%)
To Live Forever 27 (96.4%)

01. A Change Of Seasons
02. To Live Forever

03. Eve
04. Speak To Me
05. Raise The Knife
06. Don't Look Past Me
07. The Way It Used To Be
08. Cover My Eyes
09. Where Are You Now?
10. You Or Me
11. Raw Dog

The early instrumental "Eve" moves on to the Consolation Rounds while "To Live Forever" and "A Change Of Seasons" both advance to the finals!

We're wrapping up The Astonishing and starting The Majesty Demos. Since I cannot start the Consolation Rounds until BOTH of those album survivors are finished, I'll probably begin the "Album Artwork" Survivor after TA finishes (since there are only 4 more rounds for it left anyway, while TMD has 7 more rounds).

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Re: Dream Theater Survivor 2017 - Results & Discussion Thread
« Reply #50 on: March 16, 2017, 10:00:08 AM »
The Astonishing's Final Round's Results:
Three Days 14 (43.8%)
Moment Of Betrayal 18 (56.3%)

01. Three Days
02. Moment Of Betrayal
03. A Life Left Behind
      A Tempting Offer

05. A Better Life
06. A Savior In The Square

07. Dystopian Overture
08. The Path That Divides
09. Lord Nafaryus
10. A New Beginning
11. The Gift Of Music
12. The X Aspect
13. Ravenskill
14. Heaven's Cove
15. When Your Time Has Come
16. The Walking Shadow
17. Our New World
18. Chosen
19. The Road To Revolution
20. Astonishing
21. The Answer
      Act Of Faythe
      My Last Farewell
24. Brother, Can You Hear Me?
25. Hymn Of A Thousand Voices
26. Begin Again
27. Losing Faythe
28. 2285 Entr'acte
29. Whispers On The Wind
30. Digital Discord
      Machine Chatter
32. Descent Of The Nomacs
      The Hovering Sojourn
      Power Down

As decided by voting, and by ONE VOTE, the plan to take the top 4 to the Finals wins, which means 5th and 6th place songs will advance to the Consolation Rounds, which will begin Tomorrow!

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Re: Dream Theater Survivor 2017 - Results & Discussion Thread
« Reply #51 on: March 18, 2017, 11:49:50 AM »
The Majesty Demos' Final Round's Results:
A Vision 3 (30%)
March Of The Tyrant 7 (70%)

The Majesty Demos
01. A Vision
02. March Of The Tyrant

03. Cry For Freedom
04. Another Won
05. Vital Star
06. Two Far
07. The School Song
08. Your Majesty

The album epic, "A Vision", takes the top spot, but both it and "March Of The Tyrant" move on to the Finals! "Cry For Freedom" made it to the Consolation Rounds, but was promptly eliminated in the first round. Nice try, CFF, better luck next time.

Now we move on through the rest of the Consolation Rounds, as well as the side-survivor of the Album Artwork/Covers, and whenever that ends, I may do another "for fun" survivor, perhaps one for the officially released live albums.

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Re: Dream Theater Survivor 2017 - Results & Discussion Thread
« Reply #52 on: March 18, 2017, 12:22:22 PM »
A live album survivor would be interesting