New Mike Mangini Interview

[Kotowboy]

He designed the kit before he could even play it....

ok.

[bosk1]

A new Dreamtheaterclub vid of Mike showing his kit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu792DZtc_U

Do you know when/where that was actually filmed?  Based on the plane in the backstage area, I think it might have been the Reno show in November. 

[gzarruk]

A new Dreamtheaterclub vid of Mike showing his kit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu792DZtc_U

Do you know when/where that was actually filmed?  Based on the plane in the backstage area, I think it might have been the Reno show in November.

There was a very similar video with MM teaching Lzzy Hale to play drums. Probably from the same day? Would have to compare Mike's cloths from both videos to know, but I'm too lazy to do it right now 

[erwinrafael]

A new Dreamtheaterclub vid of Mike showing his kit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu792DZtc_U

Do you know when/where that was actually filmed?  Based on the plane in the backstage area, I think it might have been the Reno show in November.

I think noxon would know. He's running the website?

[MrBoom_shack-a-lack]

Cool! A bit annoyed by the camera focus though. Funny seeing his tech/butler cleaning everything afterwards.

[noxon]

I have no idea where it was filmed - it was delievered to me from the management (along with all the other DT.club videos we've released thus far).

[erwinrafael]

Oh, I thought it's a fan vid.

He designed the kit before he could even play it....

ok.

Of course, it's a unique kit design so there's no way he could play something like it before it was designed.

[Kotowboy]

That seems stupid, backwards and inefficient to me.

[erwinrafael]

How do you do an innovative design if you don't conceptualize it first?

Mangini has an idea of how he wants to orchestrate the drums. He plays open-handed. Then he wants to shift from light to dark-sounding cymbals to mark changes in keys (usually shifting stanza, then chorus). He also wants to match runs up and down the scale of the other melodic instrument one tom per note, which you can not do in the traditional setup of toms arranged clockwise because the arms would cross. So to be able to hit one tom per note, the toms go down the scale and are arranged RLRLRLRL. Are there kits with these features that he can play on before he designed his own kit? No.

Stupid? God forbid somebody designs a new kit based on how he imagined he would like his drum playing to sound like.

[hefdaddy42]

WE HATE PROGRESS, INNOVATION, AND CHANGE.

[rumborak]

Stupid question: Would he essentially have to relearn the songs if he modified the kit in any way? Especially the tom placement seems efficient for what he wants to do with it, but it strikes me he would struggle to play the songs on any other kit.

[bosk1]

It probably depends on the song, I'm sure, but there are lots of drum clinic videos out there where he is playing on a more "standard" kit and doing just fine with the DT songs.

[rumborak]

Total non sequitur here, but I was watching Star Trek TNG's "Schisms" the other day, and there was an exchange that totally reminded me of this thread:

DATA: Geordi, may I make a personal inquiry? It concerns my poetry reading.
LAFORGE: Sure, Data. What is it?
DATA: I noticed that many spectators seemed distracted during my presentation. Was my poetry uninteresting?
LAFORGE: Well, it was very well constructed, a virtual tribute to form.
DATA: Thank you. And?
LAFORGE: And what?
DATA: Did it evoke an emotional response?
LAFORGE: Well.
DATA: Your hesitation suggests you are trying to protect my feelings. However, since I have none, I would prefer you to be honest. An artist's growth depends upon accurate feedback.
LAFORGE: Well, your poems were clever, Data, and your Haiku was clever, and your sonnet was clever. But did it evoke an emotional response? To be honest, no, I don't think so.
DATA: Then I did not succeed in my efforts.
LAFORGE: No, it's not that you didn't succeed. You accomplished a lot, but, if you want to touch people, don't concentrate so much on rhyme and metre. Think more about what you want to say instead of how you're saying it.

[Evai]

Total non sequitur here, but I was watching Star Trek TNG's "Schisms" the other day, and there was an exchange that totally reminded me of this thread:

DATA: Geordi, may I make a personal inquiry? It concerns my poetry reading.
LAFORGE: Sure, Data. What is it?
DATA: I noticed that many spectators seemed distracted during my presentation. Was my poetry uninteresting?
LAFORGE: Well, it was very well constructed, a virtual tribute to form.
DATA: Thank you. And?
LAFORGE: And what?
DATA: Did it evoke an emotional response?
LAFORGE: Well.
DATA: Your hesitation suggests you are trying to protect my feelings. However, since I have none, I would prefer you to be honest. An artist's growth depends upon accurate feedback.
LAFORGE: Well, your poems were clever, Data, and your Haiku was clever, and your sonnet was clever. But did it evoke an emotional response? To be honest, no, I don't think so.
DATA: Then I did not succeed in my efforts.
LAFORGE: No, it's not that you didn't succeed. You accomplished a lot, but, if you want to touch people, don't concentrate so much on rhyme and metre. Think more about what you want to say instead of how you're saying it.

 

Poor Mangini...

[Adami]

Total non sequitur here, but I was watching Star Trek TNG's "Schisms" the other day, and there was an exchange that totally reminded me of this thread:

DATA: Geordi, may I make a personal inquiry? It concerns my poetry reading.
LAFORGE: Sure, Data. What is it?
DATA: I noticed that many spectators seemed distracted during my presentation. Was my poetry uninteresting?
LAFORGE: Well, it was very well constructed, a virtual tribute to form.
DATA: Thank you. And?
LAFORGE: And what?
DATA: Did it evoke an emotional response?
LAFORGE: Well.
DATA: Your hesitation suggests you are trying to protect my feelings. However, since I have none, I would prefer you to be honest. An artist's growth depends upon accurate feedback.
LAFORGE: Well, your poems were clever, Data, and your Haiku was clever, and your sonnet was clever. But did it evoke an emotional response? To be honest, no, I don't think so.
DATA: Then I did not succeed in my efforts.
LAFORGE: No, it's not that you didn't succeed. You accomplished a lot, but, if you want to touch people, don't concentrate so much on rhyme and metre. Think more about what you want to say instead of how you're saying it.

Ode to Spot made me weep like a baby.

[Mosh]

Yea I'm not a huge Mangini fan myself but I don't see the problem with his kit. Not sure how he would play a kit before designing it.

[WDADU]

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/dream-theater-has-no-plans-to-reunite-with-mike-portnoy/

For those speculating about Mike Portnoy returning if Mangini were to leave.

[Herrick]

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/dream-theater-has-no-plans-to-reunite-with-mike-portnoy/

For those speculating about Mike Portnoy returning if Mangini were to leave.

A fan asked if DT would have Portnoy play on some anniversary event like Sherinian & Dominici. 22:31 is where Petrucci & Ruddess answer the question. Nothing at all to do with Portnoy rejoining if Mangini left.

Edit: The article quotes a 2016 Metal Rules interview with Portnoy. I'm surprised that site is still doing interviews. I thought they was pretty much dead because they let their message board to be overrun by bots. Very sad.

[gzarruk]

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/dream-theater-has-no-plans-to-reunite-with-mike-portnoy/

For those speculating about Mike Portnoy returning if Mangini were to leave.

This is not really news, the DT guys have all been very clear about not wanting MP in DT anymore 

[DarkLord_Lalinc]

It's like 2011 all over again.

[CharlesPL]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmw9mtSjB0A

New Interview

[ReaperKK]

Good interview

[devieira73]

Really cool interview! It seems the mood within the band is still great, although he admits clearly that he's still searching for his space in the band, as a composer/arranger. I hope on DT14 he feels satisfied, he really deserves it (and personally I would like to hear much more of his musical ideas ).

[Kotowboy]

The interviewer's voice is just like Windows 95 text-to-speech voice.

[gzarruk]

Really cool interview! It seems the mood within the band is still great, although he admits clearly that he's still searching for his space in the band, as a composer/arranger. I hope on DT14 he feels satisfied, he really deserves it (and personally I would like to hear much more of his musical ideas ).

Yes, can't wait to see how much involved he is on DT14, as you say, he really deserves it and his contributions would be very refreshing for the band.

[?]

The interviewer's voice is just like Windows 95 text-to-speech voice.

The intonation is Finnish is pretty monotonous (stress always on the first syllable), and that bleeds into the accent as well.

[erwinrafael]

The interviewer's voice is just like Windows 95 text-to-speech voice.

 

I love how his answers were substantively similar to the answers in the orig interview in this thread but it's not interpreted negatively.

[Kotowboy]

Yeah Mangini even said that it was the best version of that explanation he'd given.

Maybe he thought that previous interview didn't come across well.

[bl5150]

Yeah Mangini even said that it was the best version of that explanation he'd given.

Maybe he thought that previous interview didn't come across well.

Yeah - he was clearly more focused on the "earning the right" , how much he likes the guys etc... and less on the disappointment of not having the degree of input he might like.  I think the response to the other interview is something he was very much aware of as he spoke.

[rumborak]

The interviewer's voice is just like Windows 95 text-to-speech voice.

 

I love how his answers were substantively similar to the answers in the orig interview in this thread but it's not interpreted negatively.

I actually thought he was a bit walking on eggshells in that video. That is, he was very keen on getting across that he's enjoying himself at DT, but at the same time that what he said in the OP interview is just as well true.

[Dream Team]

Nice he recognizes the brilliance of some of MP's parts.

[bosk1]

Why wouldn't he?

[DarkLord_Lalinc]

Yeah, he has done that from day one.

[rumborak]

It doesn't even matter how he feels about them (even though I have no reason to assume he doesn't mean what he said). Saying anything but positive would be PR suicide. Blabbermouth would create a new site just because of it.

[Kotowboy]

Mangini : " I love what Mike Portnoy plays on his albums. The parts are PERFECT and there are signature fills that absolutely NEED to be there.. But i've been in the band for 8 years now

and I finally feel comfortable putting my own stamp on a few of the songs... "




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MIKE MANGINI SAYS HIS DRUM PARTS ARE BETTER THAN PORTNOYS DRUM PARTS