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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #420 on: November 30, 2016, 06:06:10 PM »
I am listening to Epica now.  And...that is actually sort of a hint too.  But probably not in the way you all think.


It's an epic! Gotcha! 8V or ACOS.
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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #421 on: November 30, 2016, 06:12:20 PM »
IT'S NOT NEVER ENOUGH!  :lolpalm:


But it has to be! In fact the whole show has to only be that song played over and over because, as you all know, everything is Never Enough .

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« Reply #422 on: November 30, 2016, 07:57:29 PM »
Yes, but an important question to ask is, WHO would you kill for it?


Just catching up on this thread.  Sounds like ILLUMINATION THEORY will be the opener.

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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #423 on: November 30, 2016, 08:21:27 PM »
Yes, but an important question to ask is, WHO would you kill for it?


Just catching up on this thread.  Sounds like ILLUMINATION THEORY will be the opener.

That is on my list of possibilities.

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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #424 on: November 30, 2016, 08:25:53 PM »
Yea, that sounds pretty good.
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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #425 on: November 30, 2016, 08:36:29 PM »
False Awakening Suite followed by Illumination Theory. I remember reading on here that the album was originally going to be sequenced this way, so it would be cool to hear it in that sequence.
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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #426 on: December 01, 2016, 12:51:00 AM »
On my list of possibilities as well. It would be totally epic

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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #427 on: December 01, 2016, 03:02:05 AM »
Yes, but an important question to ask is, WHO would you kill for it?


Just catching up on this thread.  Sounds like ILLUMINATION THEORY will be the opener.

That is on my list of possibilities.

But Illumination Theory would be defined as a "monster" song and Mangini would not have to transcribe that. Would DT play IT, ACoS and 8VM on the tour...

Or did Mangini litterally mean monster songs, as in songs about monsters?

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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #428 on: December 01, 2016, 04:21:45 AM »
Yes, but an important question to ask is, WHO would you kill for it?


Just catching up on this thread.  Sounds like ILLUMINATION THEORY will be the opener.

That is on my list of possibilities.

But Illumination Theory would be defined as a "monster" song and Mangini would not have to transcribe that. Would DT play IT, ACoS and 8VM on the tour...

Or did Mangini litterally mean monster songs, as in songs about monsters?

He has played it many times before. I don't see it as being a major deal to relearn it. It's one of a few possibilities. I'll put the rest up later.

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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #429 on: December 01, 2016, 05:21:03 AM »
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He has played it many times before. I don't see it as being a major deal to relearn it. It's one of a few possibilities. I'll put the rest up later.

Indeed... and as he said he was transcribing two "monstersongs" for the tour this would be a third one. I don't think they would play three "monstersongs".

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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #430 on: December 01, 2016, 05:24:17 AM »
Do we know that 8V is one of them?

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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #431 on: December 01, 2016, 05:24:50 AM »
Ohhh, they're opening with 8V. Hmmm That fits with bosk not expecting it to be an opening song.

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« Reply #432 on: December 01, 2016, 05:41:03 AM »
Do we know that 8V is one of them?

We don't know other than MM had to transcribe two "monstersongs"

It's my guess and hope that those two are ACOS and 8VM

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« Reply #433 on: December 01, 2016, 05:41:50 AM »
Ohhh, they're opening with 8V. Hmmm That fits with bosk not expecting it to be an opening song.

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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #434 on: December 01, 2016, 06:41:48 AM »
Or did Mangini litterally mean monster songs, as in songs about monsters?
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« Reply #435 on: December 01, 2016, 06:59:03 AM »
They aren't opening with 8V, Bosk said they've been playing the opening song on the last couple years.
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #436 on: December 01, 2016, 07:14:52 AM »
IT'S NOT NEVER ENOUGH!  :lolpalm:
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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #437 on: December 01, 2016, 08:55:21 AM »
I'm also going to guess that there will be a chunk of set devoted to FII.

Or Trial of Tears as the opener? That would be a pretty epic way to start the show IMO.
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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #439 on: December 01, 2016, 09:28:46 AM »
If they actually chose Never Enough, I would wonder if it was intentionally symbolic for the mixed reactions to The Astonishing.

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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #440 on: December 01, 2016, 09:33:50 AM »
Something very logical and that no one has mentioned yet is the great possibility of them playing at least one song of SDoIT, giving the ocassion of its 15th anniversary.. When it was SFaM's 15th anniversary they actually played 4 songs from it in the encore.. My guess is they'll play more than one song, and the same goes to FII, that resembles the case of Awake (20th annyversary) of which they actually played half of the album..

Anyway, I think they don't have much more room than playing two or three songs at most from each of those albums, because the main celebration is I&W.. But even so, I think they will -or should- be playing songs from SDoIT, and one of those could definitely be TGP... since this one totally matches the "monster song" description..
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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #441 on: December 01, 2016, 11:39:31 AM »
Something very logical and that no one has mentioned yet is the great possibility of them playing at least one song of SDoIT, giving the ocassion of its 15th anniversary.. When it was SFaM's 15th anniversary they actually played 4 songs from it in the encore.. My guess is they'll play more than one song, and the same goes to FII, that resembles the case of Awake (20th annyversary) of which they actually played half of the album..

Anyway, I think they don't have much more room than playing two or three songs at most from each of those albums, because the main celebration is I&W.. But even so, I think they will -or should- be playing songs from SDoIT, and one of those could definitely be TGP... since this one totally matches the "monster song" description..

I agree! Although they have 3 album anniversaries to cover (IAW, SDOIT, SC) + a few TA songs + monster songs + TBP/STR + B-sides... they just can't fit everything into it  :-\
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #442 on: December 01, 2016, 12:15:17 PM »
Something very logical and that no one has mentioned yet is the great possibility of them playing at least one song of SDoIT, giving the ocassion of its 15th anniversary.. When it was SFaM's 15th anniversary they actually played 4 songs from it in the encore.. My guess is they'll play more than one song, and the same goes to FII, that resembles the case of Awake (20th annyversary) of which they actually played half of the album..

Anyway, I think they don't have much more room than playing two or three songs at most from each of those albums, because the main celebration is I&W.. But even so, I think they will -or should- be playing songs from SDoIT, and one of those could definitely be TGP... since this one totally matches the "monster song" description..

I agree! Although they have 3 album anniversaries to cover (IAW, SDOIT, SC) + a few TA songs + monster songs + TBP/STR + B-sides... they just can't fit everything into it  :-\

But I was guessing that one of those "monster songs" (or probably the two of them) could be from any of those albums.. TGP and LitS, e.g., are both epic and hard songs to play for any mortal.. Besides, I'm not counting SC, because I don't know if they've ever celebrated a 10th anniversary of an album before.. I wouldn't do that, especially if you're already celebrating three anniversaries more..

Having said all that, they've done several 3 hour shows and "an evening with" so I don't think time would be a problem for them.. :lol
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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #443 on: December 01, 2016, 02:41:02 PM »
I am listening to Epica now.  And...that is actually sort of a hint too.  But probably not in the way you all think.

Never heard of them, but my own cover band has a female vocalist, so I'll be listening to this on the ride home for potential material!
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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #444 on: December 01, 2016, 02:46:05 PM »
Something very logical and that no one has mentioned yet is the great possibility of them playing at least one song of SDoIT, giving the ocassion of its 15th anniversary.. When it was SFaM's 15th anniversary they actually played 4 songs from it in the encore.. My guess is they'll play more than one song, and the same goes to FII, that resembles the case of Awake (20th annyversary) of which they actually played half of the album..

Anyway, I think they don't have much more room than playing two or three songs at most from each of those albums, because the main celebration is I&W.. But even so, I think they will -or should- be playing songs from SDoIT, and one of those could definitely be TGP... since this one totally matches the "monster song" description.

I agree! Although they have 3 album anniversaries to cover (IAW, SDOIT, SC) + a few TA songs + monster songs + TBP/STR + B-sides... they just can't fit everything into it  :-\

But I was guessing that one of those "monster songs" (or probably the two of them) could be from any of those albums.. TGP and LitS, e.g., are both epic and hard songs to play for any mortal.. Besides, I'm not counting SC, because I don't know if they've ever celebrated a 10th anniversary of an album before.. I wouldn't do that, especially if you're already celebrating three anniversaries more..

Having said all that, they've done several 3 hour shows and "an evening with" so I don't think time would be a problem for them.. :lol

DT has so much good material that, even with a 3 hour set, they can't fit all the songs they would like to  :lol
As an example, I remember Petrucci saying they wanted to include Only a Matter of Time on the AFTR tour, but couldn't because they were already playing too much stuff  :'(
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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #445 on: December 01, 2016, 02:47:50 PM »
Yes, but an important question to ask is, WHO would you kill for it?


Just catching up on this thread.  Sounds like ILLUMINATION THEORY will be the opener.

I don't think that's a terrible guess, but it's not necessarily a "crowd pleaser," and MM said he was transcribing two "monster" tracks.  We're not sure if "monster" means "longer," but if it does, he would not have to transcribe that one.
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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #446 on: December 01, 2016, 02:53:35 PM »
Yes, but an important question to ask is, WHO would you kill for it?


Just catching up on this thread.  Sounds like ILLUMINATION THEORY will be the opener.

I don't think that's a terrible guess, but it's not necessarily a "crowd pleaser," and MM said he was transcribing two "monster" tracks.  We're not sure if "monster" means "longer," but if it does, he would not have to transcribe that one.

I would guess he doesn't need to transcribe ANTR as well since that was a track to perform on his audition.

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« Reply #447 on: December 01, 2016, 02:54:28 PM »
The opener is definitely a monster track.
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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #448 on: December 01, 2016, 02:57:12 PM »
The opener is definitely a monster track.

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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #449 on: December 01, 2016, 02:58:14 PM »
The opener is definitely a monster track.

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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #450 on: December 01, 2016, 02:58:31 PM »
DT is covering Extreme's (It's A) Monster?!?!?!?!?!   :metal :metal :metal :metal






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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #451 on: December 01, 2016, 02:58:43 PM »
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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #452 on: December 01, 2016, 03:01:50 PM »
I guess there's two ways to take that new information.

1) Either there's three "monster" tracks total during the show (one as the opener that DT has been playing "recently" that MM doesn't need to transcribe, and two later in the show that he does), or

2) "Recently" includes stuff from before MM joined the band.

It's not TCOT because bosk said nothing from BC&SL that he remembers, and he'd obviously remember that one.  But it could be another "monster" track from that time period that MM has yet to play, but that has some "crowd pleaser" cred.
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« Reply #453 on: December 01, 2016, 03:07:17 PM »
I guess there's a third possibility...MM for some reason needs to "transcribe" a song that he already has played but has not necessarily "transcribed."  But I find that unlikely if it's a song he's played live, so...
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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #454 on: December 01, 2016, 03:09:46 PM »
I would say it's one of the epics they've played live with him, like IT, BAI or even Outcry
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."