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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #315 on: November 26, 2016, 02:43:05 AM »
This is also something i'd definitely go to see:

Set: 1
1. The Glass Prison
2. Afterlife
3. Bridges in the Sky
4. Misunderstood
5. Endless Sacrifice
6. Lines in the Sand
7. Fatal Tragedy
8. One Last Time
9. Finally Free

Set: 2
1. I&W in it's entirety
2. The Killing Hand
3. Hollow Years
4. Funeral For a Friend/ Love Lies Bleeding
5. Raise The Knife

Encore:
1. Eve/Hells Kitchen Medley
2. A Change of Seasons

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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #316 on: November 26, 2016, 04:40:15 AM »
This is also something i'd definitely go to see:

Set: 1
1. The Glass Prison
2. Afterlife
3. Bridges in the Sky
4. Misunderstood
5. Endless Sacrifice
6. Lines in the Sand
7. Fatal Tragedy
8. One Last Time
9. Finally Free

Set: 2
1. I&W in it's entirety
2. The Killing Hand
3. Hollow Years
4. Funeral For a Friend/ Love Lies Bleeding
5. Raise The Knife

Encore:
1. Eve/Hells Kitchen Medley
2. A Change of Seasons

No cover, please!

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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #317 on: November 26, 2016, 06:39:30 AM »
Definitely no covers or medleys either  :lol
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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« Reply #318 on: November 26, 2016, 08:24:26 AM »
While I love the art on that poster, I wouldn't think about seeing this concert unless I know what the rest of the set looks like. A new song or two might make it worth it.

They probably have to do this to finance the next album though.

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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #319 on: November 26, 2016, 11:57:10 AM »
reading some of Bosk's posts here, I think they'll be adding at least one song they've never ever played live before, and all the songs on your setlist have been played live by them at some point. That makes me think more of The Bigger Picture and Surrender to Reason. Also, I think they might add at least one FII track, since it will be it's 20th anniversary  :)

I totally missed that, but you're right.. It'll be 6DoIT's 15th anniversary as well.. TGP must be in that setlist!.. :metal

And, about playing TBP and/or STR, well... there aren't more songs that they've never play live.... Except, you know... The Best of Times... but that's not happening.. Although we all want to see dat solo at least once before we die... by seeing that solo.. :lol

Octavarium is too slow and has the climax in the very end. It's 5 minutes of intro, then a slow acoustic piece and when it really start, it's "just" the Medicate section, not exactly a great opener.

You don't simply define that amazing section with those trivial words.. :police:

Maybe they'll come out and open up with In the Name of God. :metal

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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #320 on: November 26, 2016, 12:13:36 PM »
Clever thought. I wonder if they ever already lowered a song to make it easier for JLB?

They have never. And I hope they never do, it never sounds good on songs that are as intricate and have as many key changes as DT's. JLB makes the appropriate melody changes within the key if it's out of range.

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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #321 on: November 26, 2016, 12:50:05 PM »
Clever thought. I wonder if they ever already lowered a song to make it easier for JLB?

They have never. And I hope they never do, it never sounds good on songs that are as intricate and have as many key changes as DT's. JLB makes the appropriate melody changes within the key if it's out of range.

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« Reply #322 on: November 26, 2016, 02:49:15 PM »
reading some of Bosk's posts here, I think they'll be adding at least one song they've never ever played live before, and all the songs on your setlist have been played live by them at some point. That makes me think more of The Bigger Picture and Surrender to Reason. Also, I think they might add at least one FII track, since it will be it's 20th anniversary  :)

I totally missed that, but you're right.. It'll be 6DoIT's 15th anniversary as well.. TGP must be in that setlist!.. :metal

And, about playing TBP and/or STR, well... there aren't more songs that they've never play live.... Except, you know... The Best of Times... but that's not happening.. Although we all want to see dat solo at least once before we die... by seeing that solo.. :lol

:lol TBOT has one of the most amazing Petrucci solos ever, but, besides the solo and the Rush-like intro, I don't really like the song that much. To me, it sounds like one of those moments where MP wanted to fit all his lyrics into a song, so they had to make it longer and longer to make room for them to fit. It sounds forced and anti climatic. Also, the lyrics aren't that great, imo.
... even though, after all that, we get THAT solo  :biggrin:

The other songs they haven't played live, if I'm not mistaken, are Don't Look Past Me and Raw Dog, but seeing TBP and STR is more likely :laugh:
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #323 on: November 26, 2016, 03:27:49 PM »
:lol TBOT has one of the most amazing Petrucci solos ever, but, besides the solo and the Rush-like intro, I don't really like the song that much. To me, it sounds like one of those moments where MP wanted to fit all his lyrics into a song, so they had to make it longer and longer to make room for them to fit. It sounds forced and anti climatic. Also, the lyrics aren't that great, imo.
... even though, after all that, we get THAT solo  :biggrin:

The other songs they haven't played live, if I'm not mistaken, are Don't Look Past Me and Raw Dog, but seeing TBP and STR is more likely :laugh:

Yeah, I don't like it so much either.. I mean, not as I like the rest of the songs on that album.. :heart

But I meant that that's the song that we know they won't ever play, unless MP comes back for a special show or something like that..

I don't see them playing DLPM or Raw Dog either, so I'm with you in that too..
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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #324 on: November 26, 2016, 03:31:32 PM »
Outcry
Constant Motion
Surrender to Reason
Through My Words
Fatal Tragedy
Octavarium

--------intermission-----------

The Killing Hand
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The Gift of Music
A Better Life
Three Days
Moment of Betrayal
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Pull Me Under
Another Day
Take the Time
Surrounded
Metropolis Part 1
Under A Glass Moon
Wait For Sleep
Learning to Live

----encore-----
Erotomania
Voices
The Silent Man


....Dammit now I really wanna see them open with Outcry

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« Reply #325 on: November 26, 2016, 04:57:02 PM »
:lol TBOT has one of the most amazing Petrucci solos ever, but, besides the solo and the Rush-like intro, I don't really like the song that much. To me, it sounds like one of those moments where MP wanted to fit all his lyrics into a song, so they had to make it longer and longer to make room for them to fit. It sounds forced and anti climatic. Also, the lyrics aren't that great, imo.
... even though, after all that, we get THAT solo  :biggrin:

The other songs they haven't played live, if I'm not mistaken, are Don't Look Past Me and Raw Dog, but seeing TBP and STR is more likely :laugh:

Yeah, I don't like it so much either.. I mean, not as I like the rest of the songs on that album.. :heart

But I meant that that's the song that we know they won't ever play, unless MP comes back for a special show or something like that..

I don't see them playing DLPM or Raw Dog either, so I'm with you in that too..

My bet is that MP will play the song with his Shattered Fortress thing and that'll be it. Hope he gets a guitarist that is able to make the solo justice or he'll be hated for all eternity  :lol


....Dammit now I really wanna see them open with Outcry

Indeed. Outcry is one of my favorite songs from ADTOE and would love to see them bring it back to the set
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #326 on: November 26, 2016, 05:08:04 PM »
I would love to see them open with Don't look past me.

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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #327 on: November 26, 2016, 06:22:18 PM »


My bet is that MP will play the song with his Shattered Fortress thing and that'll be it. Hope he gets a guitarist that is able to make the solo justice or he'll be hated for all eternity  :lol


My guess at this point would be Eric Gillette.  His style is just like Petrucci's, and he has the chops to play the 12-step material.

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« Reply #328 on: November 26, 2016, 06:58:06 PM »
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« Reply #329 on: November 26, 2016, 07:23:39 PM »


My bet is that MP will play the song with his Shattered Fortress thing and that'll be it. Hope he gets a guitarist that is able to make the solo justice or he'll be hated for all eternity  :lol


My guess at this point would be Eric Gillette.  His style is just like Petrucci's, and he has the chops to play the 12-step material.

I would say Eric and Diejo Tejeida will be part of it. Not sure about the bassist or the vocalist, though.
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #330 on: November 26, 2016, 07:26:08 PM »
Who is Eric Gilette?
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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« Reply #331 on: November 26, 2016, 07:32:21 PM »
Who is Eric Gilette?

The Petrucci clone from... I mean... the guitarist for the new Neal Morse band  :biggrin:
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #332 on: November 26, 2016, 07:39:48 PM »
Ok thanks. I had never heard of him.
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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« Reply #333 on: November 26, 2016, 08:20:34 PM »
Going back to the possible setlists, I remember reading an interview with James where he said he wanted the band to play TTT, Disappear and TMOLS. Do you think any of the last two will make it to the set? Either one would be a great choice, I think  :)
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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« Reply #334 on: November 26, 2016, 08:33:22 PM »
The Ministry of Lost Souls is great to play if you want to put the audience to sleep.  That song is too long and too plodding; it just doesn't work live.

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« Reply #335 on: November 26, 2016, 08:50:46 PM »
The Ministry of Lost Souls is great to play if you want to put the audience to sleep.  That song is too long and too plodding; it just doesn't work live.

I like the song  :lol but I do get your point. What about Repentance? They only played it once, doesn't require too much effort from James, and the song is actually very cool. I imagine they will include at least one song from SC for it's 10 years and, if you remove all the samples from the end, it isn't that long  :biggrin:
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #336 on: November 26, 2016, 09:44:56 PM »
Going back to the possible setlists, I remember reading an interview with James where he said he wanted the band to play TTT, Disappear and TMOLS. Do you think any of the last two will make it to the set? Either one would be a great choice, I think  :)

Wow, do you have the link to that interview?.. I couldn't find it..

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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #337 on: November 26, 2016, 09:48:47 PM »
The Ministry of Lost Souls is great to play if you want to put the audience to sleep.  That song is too long and too plodding; it just doesn't work live.

It took me a while to really get into that song. Now, I love the solo and I love the lyrical content, but you're right about the momentum. It's not the best choice for a live song.

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« Reply #338 on: November 26, 2016, 09:50:50 PM »
I think if Ministry had a more smooth middle section and a less....I dunno....direct intro, it would be great. I really like the vocal sections and the music behind it.
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« Reply #339 on: November 26, 2016, 10:00:05 PM »
Going back to the possible setlists, I remember reading an interview with James where he said he wanted the band to play TTT, Disappear and TMOLS. Do you think any of the last two will make it to the set? Either one would be a great choice, I think  :)

Wow, do you have the link to that interview?.. I couldn't find it..

If I remember correctly, it was from last year, from the time they were playing the 30th anniversary shows, before they announced anything from TA. I remember I got excited about the posibility of those tracks being played again, but then they went full TA and didn't happen.

Couldn't find it, now, though  :-\ Guess i'll have to save the links next time I read something interesting like that on an interview. But, trust me, I'm not making this up  :lol
It sounds like, "ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk, ruk." Instead of the more pleasing kick drum sound of, "gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk, gzarruk."

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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #340 on: November 26, 2016, 10:10:40 PM »
Clever thought. I wonder if they ever already lowered a song to make it easier for JLB?

They have never. And I hope they never do, it never sounds good on songs that are as intricate and have as many key changes as DT's. JLB makes the appropriate melody changes within the key if it's out of range.

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« Reply #341 on: November 27, 2016, 12:50:56 AM »
Yes, FII will be represented.  No, there will not be any covers.
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« Reply #342 on: November 27, 2016, 01:09:51 AM »
It would be nice to hear Peruvian Skies again, or even New Millenium. Break out the stick!

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« Reply #343 on: November 27, 2016, 02:00:16 AM »
Yes, FII will be represented.  No, there will not be any covers.

Am i then allowed to ask if the album "A Change of Seasons" is represented?   :angel:

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« Reply #344 on: November 27, 2016, 02:10:01 AM »
Yes, FII will be represented.  No, there will not be any covers.

Phewww! I was afraid for a minute or two. Thanks for the clarification.

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« Reply #345 on: November 27, 2016, 03:06:35 AM »
I'd kill to see The Ministry of lost souls live.

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« Reply #346 on: November 27, 2016, 04:19:26 AM »
Yes, FII will be represented.  No, there will not be any covers.

Am i then allowed to ask if the album "A Change of Seasons" is represented?   :angel:

Trick question. Let's see if he falls for it.  :lol

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« Reply #347 on: November 27, 2016, 04:28:37 AM »
Yes, FII will be represented.  No, there will not be any covers.

Am i then allowed to ask if the album "A Change of Seasons" is represented?   :angel:

He'd probably answer "yes, you're allowed"  ;D

Anyway, to anyone going crazy over the possible shock opener: maybe it's just Our New World. It's not entirely out of this world to kick the set up with a short rocker off the latest album. Then I'm all for being surprised with a badass epic as first song  :coolio
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Re: DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!
« Reply #348 on: November 27, 2016, 04:47:50 AM »
Yes, FII will be represented.  No, there will not be any covers.

Am i then allowed to ask if the album "A Change of Seasons" is represented?   :angel:

He'd probably answer "yes, you're allowed"  ;D

Anyway, to anyone going crazy over the possible shock opener: maybe it's just Our New World. It's not entirely out of this world to kick the set up with a short rocker off the latest album. Then I'm all for being surprised with a badass epic as first song  :coolio

It could be. But my guess is if they are playing songs from The Astonishing, that they will play them in order, like an Astonishing Suite. (Like they did with SFAM on the Along for the Ride tour.)

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« Reply #349 on: November 27, 2016, 05:07:41 AM »
They're going to play all of the Astonishing but in a completely wrong order that makes no sense.
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