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Re: The JAWS & Sequels Thread
« Reply #35 on: April 05, 2017, 10:59:51 AM »
I wouldn't be surprised if we get another Jaws movie in the future, seems ripe for a remake given our movie remake culture.

Easier to just commission George Lucas to do a new edition to update the special effects and clean up some scenes.  The only issues I could anticipate with that would be the inevitable re-edit of the final scene to clarify that the shark, not Brody, shot first, and Billy Kinder's force ghost making an appearance alongside Yoda and Obi Wan.
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« Reply #36 on: April 05, 2017, 11:00:35 AM »
I certainly wouldn't want it, but it just seems like something Hollywood would do.  Michael Bay would direct and there would be even bigger explosions than the one in the original.

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« Reply #37 on: April 05, 2017, 11:02:44 AM »
I certainly wouldn't want it, but it just seems like something Hollywood would do.  Michael Bay would direct and there would be even bigger explosions than the one in the original.
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« Reply #38 on: April 05, 2017, 11:19:41 AM »
The only way JAWS today would work is to set it in 1975.

Otherwise everyone would have mobile phones etc and it would be easy for Brody or Hooper to call someone for rescue.

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« Reply #39 on: April 06, 2017, 12:33:33 AM »
The documentary on the making of Jaws is funny as hell. They couldn't even get the damned shark to work untill halfway into the shooting and then it could only go straight ahead. Nothing to do but sit around in the sun all day and get halfbaked. Oh well.  :biggrin:
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Re: The JAWS & Sequels Thread
« Reply #40 on: April 06, 2017, 02:47:42 AM »
I don't think a 2017 Jaws movie would work really. The strength of the first one is the power of what you don't see, and how the unknown is more frightening than anything else. Once we get the payoff with the shark, that's great, but that's over an hour into the movie. I feel like with a modern Jaws they would go about it the wrong way. "We can do ANYTHING with effects these days" and we would see a CGI shark in the first 5 minutes of the movie. I guess it depends on who directs it, but getting that fear back would be hard I think.

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« Reply #41 on: April 06, 2017, 07:42:16 AM »
I don't think a 2017 Jaws movie would work really. The strength of the first one is the power of what you don't see, and how the unknown is more frightening than anything else. Once we get the payoff with the shark, that's great, but that's over an hour into the movie.
Yeah, we KNOW it wouldn't work now, because that's exactly how the director of the most recent Godzilla film treated Godzilla, and tons of people bitched about it.
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« Reply #42 on: April 06, 2017, 07:53:21 AM »
Yea I definitely have little to no faith that a remade Jaws would work, but that doesn't mean Hollywood wouldn't attempt it.

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« Reply #43 on: April 06, 2017, 08:00:49 AM »
I don't think a 2017 Jaws movie would work really. The strength of the first one is the power of what you don't see, and how the unknown is more frightening than anything else. Once we get the payoff with the shark, that's great, but that's over an hour into the movie. I feel like with a modern Jaws they would go about it the wrong way. "We can do ANYTHING with effects these days" and we would see a CGI shark in the first 5 minutes of the movie. I guess it depends on who directs it, but getting that fear back would be hard I think.
That's true to a point, but that still doesn't mean they COULDN'T get it right.  Going back to The Shallows again, I think they pretty much got the shark reveal pacing about right, and it was definitely more along the lines of Jaws.  You got little glimpses here and there for the first half of the movie.  But you didn't really get full-on shark reveal until the second half.
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« Reply #44 on: April 06, 2017, 08:23:35 AM »
Apparantly the shark in Jaws is on screen for a total of 4 minutes in a 2.5 hour movie.

Four. minutes.

To make up for that you had 3 great characters played by 3 great actors and teases / barrels etc.

I can't imagine a 2.5 hour shark movie these days where you see the shark for 4 minutes total.



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JUST FOR FUN

Who would YOU cast in a 2017 Jaws Remake *AND* who do you think a crappy Hollywood studio remake would cast ?


Who I would cast :

Chief Brody : Tom Hardy. Maybe he could be Hooper. I can imagine a remake casting some comic actor to play Hooper as comic relief and be all quippy like an Owen Wilson type.

Capt. Quint : Not sure about this one.. A remake would cast just some tough guy and old them up a bit. Michael Ironside ? Kurtwood Smith ? Liam Neeson ?

Hooper : Christian Bale ? Maybe too old. Dreyfuss was in his late 20s when he played Hooper.  Joe Gordon-Levitt ?
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« Reply #45 on: April 06, 2017, 08:45:09 AM »
Capt. Quint : Not sure about this one.. A remake would cast just some tough guy and old them up a bit. Michael Ironside ? Kurtwood Smith ? Liam Neeson ?

Sam Elliott is the only correct answer.
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« Reply #46 on: April 06, 2017, 08:47:44 AM »
The answer is Kurt Russell.
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« Reply #47 on: April 06, 2017, 08:48:36 AM »
Yeah, he could probably pull it off well, too.  He can definitely do that salty role.  Good call.  But I'd still take Sam Elliott over him.
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« Reply #48 on: April 06, 2017, 08:50:26 AM »
I just have a hard time seeing Sam Elliott as that drunk, borderline going to murder you while you sleep type. He seems just wayyyyy too cool and not damaged enough.


Or we can go in a different direction.

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« Reply #49 on: April 06, 2017, 08:55:34 AM »
Just have the cast of the Ghostbusters remake do it.
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« Reply #50 on: April 06, 2017, 08:57:43 AM »
Just have the cast of the Ghostbusters remake do it.

I actually started trying to imagine Billy Murray as Quint until I realized that you meant the new one.
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« Reply #51 on: April 06, 2017, 09:00:53 AM »
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Re: The JAWS & Sequels Thread
« Reply #52 on: April 06, 2017, 09:16:03 AM »
I mean if they were to make a new one, I don't see someone like Tom Hardy as Chief Brody at all. I think more of actors like Jake Gyllenhaal or Tobey Maguire who has that more "normal" look to them. That's what was so great with the actors in the original, they looked like regular people doing their dayjobs, and I think someone like Tom Hardy would really stick out in that sense. To be fair my suggestions might be on the "too well known" side as well.

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« Reply #53 on: April 06, 2017, 09:19:53 AM »
How about a new reimagining with Hardy as Quint and Leo as Brody.

Shark attacks at the 1/3 mark, killing everyone except Brody who gets his left leg bitten off and torso severely bitten and left to die on a sinking ship miles off shore. The rest of the movie is him surviving, grunting, possibly being shark raped and then making it back to shore, guided by the bright lite of his 2nd Oscar.
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« Reply #54 on: April 06, 2017, 01:10:38 PM »
Hooper: Alexandra Daddario

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« Reply #55 on: April 06, 2017, 02:58:00 PM »
Jaws is a masterpiece. Only saw parts of Jaws 2, nothing of any other sequels. Never saw a Sharknado or whatever movie. The novel Jaws is a bit of a bore, though I read it after seeing the film several times.
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« Reply #56 on: April 06, 2017, 03:01:39 PM »
Curiously - Quint is so called as he is the 5th person to die in the film...

But in the book - Hooper dies before Quint...So Hooper would be the 5th person...

I don't know anything about the book though. I know Hooper dies in the shark cage before Quint though.

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« Reply #57 on: April 06, 2017, 03:45:55 PM »
Curiously - Quint is so called as he is the 5th person to die in the film...

But in the book - Hooper dies before Quint...So Hooper would be the 5th person...

I don't know anything about the book though. I know Hooper dies in the shark cage before Quint though.

Wow, I had to look it up because that just seemed off to me.  From memory, it just seemed like a lot more than 5 died (6, if you count the dog). 
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Re: The JAWS & Sequels Thread
« Reply #58 on: April 06, 2017, 03:47:42 PM »
1. Chrissy.

2. Alex

3. Guy in the boat in the estuary

4. Head in the boat

5. Quint

And in the book Hooper but I don't know if any were added for the film.

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« Reply #59 on: April 06, 2017, 05:49:37 PM »
Hooper: Alexandra Daddario

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A certain part of me wouldn't mind that choice.

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« Reply #60 on: April 07, 2017, 11:58:59 AM »
I would second that opinion

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« Reply #61 on: April 08, 2017, 03:43:13 PM »
Whilte not a Jaws film, I noticed Deep Blue Sea was on Netflix and decided to re-watch it because it's been a while. I mean it's not an amazing movie by any stretch but I would say it's a genuinely entertaining movie. When you mix super-intelligent sharks with Thomas Jane, Samuel L Jackson, LL Cool J and Stellan Skarsgård, it's bound to be watchable at least.

Also Renny Harlin used to be a pretty solid director. Again, not amazing, but he had a run of some pretty decent sequels (nightmare on elm street 4, die hard 2) and I think this one and Cliffhanger are both very watchable, as well as Long Kiss Goodnight which I haven't seen myself but I know people mostly enjoyed. Not sure if he has done anything decent since Deep Blue Sea which is a bit of a shame.

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« Reply #62 on: April 08, 2017, 03:45:16 PM »
Allegedly the 4 sharks in Deep Blue Sea all meet their fate in the same manner as each of the 4 sharks in the Jaws Movies.


One definitely gets electrocuted and the final one gets blowed up.

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« Reply #63 on: April 08, 2017, 03:50:07 PM »
Also I know CGI ages badly but some of the effects were terrible. Makes me appreciate movies like Jurassic Park so much more. Talk about effects that still look impressive. (I know some shots in JP look dated but overall it holds up pretty good)

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« Reply #64 on: April 08, 2017, 03:51:10 PM »
Yeah I thought the CG looked bad at the time.

The giant shark at the end looked like a cartoon.


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« Reply #65 on: April 08, 2017, 04:04:18 PM »
Also I know CGI ages badly but some of the effects were terrible. Makes me appreciate movies like Jurassic Park so much more. Talk about effects that still look impressive. (I know some shots in JP look dated but overall it holds up pretty good)
Jurassic Park may have had the best special effects ever when it was released. So impressive.

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« Reply #66 on: April 08, 2017, 04:17:02 PM »
Also I don't know if there's any truth to this at all, just me speculating. But I feel like with Deep Blue Sea, someone was really influenced by the Alien franchise and I felt a lot of Alien Resurrection in it. And it's possible because Alien Resurrection came out only 2 years before Deep Blue Sea. But a lot of the interior design of the facility feels very Alien-y, Resurrection also had some underwater scenes and then the whole climbing up the shaft on a ladder scene with a monster coming from the bottom. I guess Alien influenced TONS of horror movie but surprisingly I felt a lot of Resurrection in this which I honestly did not expect.  :lol But Resurrection had the similar setup of humans messing around with something they did not fully master and ended up with monsters on the loose hunting them down.

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« Reply #67 on: April 10, 2017, 07:31:13 AM »
Jaws and Jaws 2 are great (the sequel less so, but still enjoyable).
Jaw 3 is pretty awful, it's watchable just about.
Jaw 4 is just woeful, it's completely deserves it's reputation as one of the worst movies ever.....which brings me to another question.

Jaw 4 or Superman 4 (Quest for Peace)?


Oh and 'Open Water' is a pretty decent Shark film.

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« Reply #68 on: April 18, 2017, 06:55:40 AM »
Saw 'The Shallows' over the weekend, probably the best Shark movie I've seen since the original Jaws.