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« Reply #1296 on: April 25, 2018, 03:25:28 PM »
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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe *SPOILERS* 2
« Reply #1297 on: April 25, 2018, 03:31:59 PM »
I haven't felt this much hype for a movie since... ever. I want to catch it before Kamelot by taking a half day of work, but my friend who I'm seeing it with on Saturday will be mad if we don't see it for the first time together, and there's no way I could fake my reactions after the first time  :lol

This week needs to hurry up... so jealous of everyone who's already seen it.
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« Reply #1298 on: April 26, 2018, 02:21:32 AM »
Saw the movie last night. Oh my god...

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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe *SPOILERS* 2
« Reply #1299 on: April 26, 2018, 07:59:56 AM »
Last-minute catching up: I saw Guardians of the Galaxy 2 last night. A bit too campy sometimes, too much obvious 'they're just staring at nothing in front of a green screen' for most of the film, I was bored by the final battle, but I like the idea of introducing celestials and all that. I also don't like this shoehorned romance between Gamora and Quill.

That said I think I like the cast a bit more now. Mantis is cute. Really looking forward to seeing how they interact with the Avengers. Only 2 more days for me...
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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe *SPOILERS* 2
« Reply #1300 on: April 26, 2018, 08:44:02 AM »
Last-minute catching up: I saw Guardians of the Galaxy 2 last night. A bit too campy sometimes, too much obvious 'they're just staring at nothing in front of a green screen' for most of the film, I was bored by the final battle, but I like the idea of introducing celestials and all that. I also don't like this shoehorned romance between Gamora and Quill.

That said I think I like the cast a bit more now. Mantis is cute. Really looking forward to seeing how they interact with the Avengers. Only 2 more days for me...

Yeah, I had a lot of issues with Guardians 2 myself.  Maybe not all the specifics you mentioned, but those capture the essence of what I think the underlying issues were.  So, yeah.  Still a decent, fun movie.  And it moved the ball significantly, even if indirectly, in terms of the overall MCU story arc.  So it's fine.

I didn't have any issue whatsoever with the Quill/Gamora relationship though.  I mean, that was forecast big time in the first one.  And Quill was set up as the kind of character that would obviously go for whatever female happens to be in proximity.  So I didn't feel like it was "shoehorned" in at all. 

Saw the movie last night. Oh my god...

And with that, I'm going to probably have to stay out of the thread (and off MANY parts of the Internet) to avoid spoilers...
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« Reply #1301 on: April 26, 2018, 10:08:54 AM »
I just think it's shoehorned from the stance of 'okay, it's a film, we need romance to happen somewhere... bingo, now let's make it happen no matter what.' I would've rather this just been superhero fun time without the romance, but you can't get always get what ya want, eh? Still, Baby Groot was much more fun than I expected, and I actually liked Yondu more in the second film. But yeah, as far as moving the needle towards bigger and more epic stuff in the future, ooooh baby, I cannot wait for Adam Warlock.
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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe *SPOILERS* 2
« Reply #1302 on: April 26, 2018, 10:13:04 AM »
Peter is just such a horndog though. A Quill/Drax relationship would have even made some sense.

I think the worst forced or shoehorned romance yet is still Hulk/Widow.

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« Reply #1303 on: April 26, 2018, 12:03:05 PM »
I think the worst forced or shoehorned romance yet is still Hulk/Widow.

"I'm a monster!"
"Me too! I can't have kids!"

I agree with the bolded.  ...except for the fact that, despite being shoehorned in...it kinda worked pretty well, actually.

As to the latter, I hate, hate, HATE that characterization, which too many articles at the time were written about.  That is clearly NOT what she was saying and completely misses the point.
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« Reply #1304 on: April 26, 2018, 12:19:28 PM »
I think the worst forced or shoehorned romance yet is still Hulk/Widow.

"I'm a monster!"
"Me too! I can't have kids!"

I agree with the bolded.  ...except for the fact that, despite being shoehorned in...it kinda worked pretty well, actually.

As to the latter, I hate, hate, HATE that characterization, which too many articles at the time were written about.  That is clearly NOT what she was saying and completely misses the point.

Well obviously I am just poking fun at what I see as poor writing. I also disagree that it worked pretty well. Her calming him down was fine. If she had a specific relationship with Hulk but not Bruce, that would have been cool. But she and Bruce just made no sense.
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« Reply #1305 on: April 26, 2018, 12:19:50 PM »
I actually thought Hulk and Widow worked. I think a large part of Widow's initial care for Bruce is that she feels responsible for pulling him in and indirectly leading towards him losing it more and more. And she faced that anger/lack of control  ("monster") first hand in the Avengers, thus probably felt inclined to do something about it (calming him down/comforting him). From there on, their relationship obviously developed between the films, which to me logically extends to Bruce himself. Ideally there would be a middle film where the relationship starts to develop, but looking at the characters and their background, I think it works. It doesn't just amount to Widow feeling like a monster because she was raised as one. Their connection stems from early in the first film.

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« Reply #1306 on: April 26, 2018, 01:00:22 PM »
So it turns out Infinity War is pretty good.

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« Reply #1307 on: April 26, 2018, 01:56:24 PM »
It is.

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« Reply #1308 on: April 26, 2018, 05:14:40 PM »
Seeing it tonight! Here's my ranking of the MCU films

1. Captain America: The Winter Soldier
2. Guardians of the Galaxy
3. Black Panther
4. Iron Man
5. Captain America: Civil War
6. The Avengers
7. Doctor Strange
8. Thor
9. The Incredible Hulk (FIGHT ME)
10. Spider-Man: Homecoming
11. Thor: Ragnarok
12. Captain America: The First Avenger
13. Guardians of the Galaxy: Vol 2
14. Thor: The Dark World
15. Ant-Man
16. Iron Man 3
17. Avengers: Age of Ultron
18. Iron Man 2

I think the worst forced or shoehorned romance yet is still Hulk/Widow.

"I'm a monster!"
"Me too! I can't have kids!"

Eeeeeesh.

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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe *SPOILERS* 2
« Reply #1309 on: April 26, 2018, 05:21:19 PM »
Ugh. I hate rankings.


That said.... :biggrin:

....and this can change on an hourly basis.


1. Winter Soldier
2. Civil War
3. Iron Man
4. Avengers
5. Spiderman
6. Black Panther
7. Thor Ragnorack
8. Ant Man
9. Guardians of the Galaxy
10. First Avenger
11. Thor
12. Age of Ultron
13. Iron Man 3
14. Dr. Strange
15. Guardians 2
16. Iron Man 2
17. Hulk
18. Dark World
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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe *SPOILERS* 2
« Reply #1310 on: April 26, 2018, 07:08:47 PM »
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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« Reply #1311 on: April 26, 2018, 07:22:41 PM »
At the theater now. If I was a puppy I'd be running around in circles peeing all over the place.

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« Reply #1312 on: April 26, 2018, 07:44:05 PM »
Leave for the theater in 45 minutes. Can't freaking wait.
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« Reply #1313 on: April 26, 2018, 07:45:52 PM »
Because I wasn't terribly intelligent at the time, when I bought tickets, I forgot there was another IMAX theater like 25 min away.

I thought the one near me was the only one and it only had IMAX tickets for 10:30pm.


So I'm going to see a 2.5 hour movie at 10:30pm, and I have to be up at 6 the next day.



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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe *SPOILERS* 2
« Reply #1314 on: April 26, 2018, 08:38:23 PM »
The hype is real. That was everything I wanted and expected it to be.
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« Reply #1315 on: April 26, 2018, 09:10:32 PM »
I have tickets for Saturday night.   The wait is going to freakin kill me.   
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« Reply #1316 on: April 26, 2018, 09:29:22 PM »
7 pm show to IMAX 2D show. Movie was phenomenal. The whole movie gave me goosebumps. I'm still in awe.
It should be noted I'm not a huge marvel fan.
Won't post spoilers.
It was great watching the movie in a hall filled with super nerds.
Their reactions were nerdgasmic and it made the experience even more enjoyable.
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« Reply #1317 on: April 26, 2018, 10:42:04 PM »
 :omg: :omg: :omg:

I really can't say more than that....


It was great watching the movie in a hall filled with super nerds.
Their reactions were nerdgasmic and it made the experience even more enjoyable.

The one reason why I wanted to catch the first showing, even if I was stuck in row 2 of an IMAX. I'd like to talk about some of the nerd reactions, including mine, but that in itself would be a spoiler. Ain't saying shit about this movie for a little bit, everyone needs to be fresh and naive for it.

Will be catching it again in a mid day showing when it's nice and empty.
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« Reply #1318 on: April 26, 2018, 11:25:53 PM »
I may be the odd one here, but I haven't been all that excited about Infinity War. Trailers have been pretty good, but I just don't get all that excited about it. Judging by the trailers, it looks pretty anticlimactic.

That said, I'll go watch it when I have time. Don't want to rush into the first screenings, with the super nerds. I want an unspoiled experience.

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« Reply #1319 on: April 27, 2018, 12:35:38 AM »
Oh my goodness y'all. What a ride. Very happy I have tickets to see it again tomorrow night.
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« Reply #1320 on: April 27, 2018, 12:58:50 AM »
Welp. How the fuck do we recover from that?
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« Reply #1321 on: April 27, 2018, 02:34:28 AM »
Good god.....
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« Reply #1322 on: April 27, 2018, 03:01:13 AM »
I have minor quips about the writing and plot conveniences, but...

Man, that was good. There were finally stakes in an Avengers movie that felt truly threatening. And when you thought those stakes couldn't get higher, it punches you in the gut. This really helped the pacing and attentiveness of a movie that had a few different storylines to tell ala The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers. And that post-credit scene is probably the most relevant of the entire MCU post credit scenes!

The patience of the past 10 years definitely paid off. And that patience is where the Marvel Cinematic Universe succeeds the most and where others have failed or are still trying to find their footing.


I may be the odd one here, but I haven't been all that excited about Infinity War. Trailers have been pretty good, but I just don't get all that excited about it. Judging by the trailers, it looks pretty anticlimactic.

That said, I'll go watch it when I have time. Don't want to rush into the first screenings, with the super nerds. I want an unspoiled experience.

I was the same way. But after seeing the film, I'm excited to tell people to go see it

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« Reply #1323 on: April 27, 2018, 04:29:39 AM »
jingle.son and I are going to try and go again Monday afternoon.

Welp. How the fuck do we recover from that?

The did in the comics.

Thanos was a fantastic villain.  I'll leave my posts completely spoiler free (even no tiny font) for the next couple of days.  I loved the opening night vibe.  There were 3-4 moments when the theater went nuts!

And yeah... best post credits scene in a long time.
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« Reply #1324 on: April 27, 2018, 12:40:55 PM »
I think the one thing above all that pleased me the most is that they didn't water down Thanos one bit. He was about as much a badass as he could possibly be.

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« Reply #1325 on: April 27, 2018, 01:11:52 PM »
I'm not seeing it until next week.  But for those who have:  What is the one film or small handful of films you would say it is a good idea to go back and watch prior to seeing it?
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« Reply #1326 on: April 27, 2018, 01:14:58 PM »
I'm not seeing it until next week.  But for those who have:  What is the one film or small handful of films you would say it is a good idea to go back and watch prior to seeing it?

Hmmmm

Iron Man
Captain America First Avengers
Ragnorack
Civil War
Winter Soldier
Black Panther
Guardians 1 & 2
Maybe Thor 1 or 2?
Avengers
Age of Ultron
Dr. Strange
Spiderman


...yea. It's a list. This is NOT a stand alone movie. Nor really should it be, but yea. If you're already familiar with those movies to a good degree, you're good.
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« Reply #1327 on: April 27, 2018, 01:20:26 PM »
My buddy bought my ticket and I was going to repay him for it tomorrow at the theater, but part of his job is managing the social media so he just said don't worry about it - as long as I could photoshop his face and his coworkers' faces onto the Infinity War poster, to put on Facebook. So I did. :lol Still gonna pay him back, though.
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« Reply #1328 on: April 27, 2018, 01:32:20 PM »
I'm not seeing it until next week.  But for those who have:  What is the one film or small handful of films you would say it is a good idea to go back and watch prior to seeing it?

"Go back"?  Is it safe to assume you've seen them all at some point already?  If not, there are some that are important/mandatory to see, and some (mostly pre-Age of Ultron) that could be skipped altogether - except GOTG 1.  That's meaningful.

I think the most key ones to RE-watch would be (in no particular order):

Age of Ultron
Dr. Strange
Ragnarok
Civil War
Black Panther
Spidey
Guardians 2

Anyone watching Infinity War without having seen those is going to miss some important connections.
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« Reply #1329 on: April 27, 2018, 01:50:22 PM »
I'm not seeing it until next week.  But for those who have:  What is the one film or small handful of films you would say it is a good idea to go back and watch prior to seeing it?

"Go back"?  Is it safe to assume you've seen them all at some point already?  If not, there are some that are important/mandatory to see, and some (mostly pre-Age of Ultron) that could be skipped altogether - except GOTG 1.  That's meaningful.

I think the most key ones to RE-watch would be (in no particular order):

Age of Ultron
Dr. Strange
Ragnarok
Civil War
Black Panther
Spidey
Guardians 2

Anyone watching Infinity War without having seen those is going to miss some important connections.

Guardians 1 is the movie that introduces the Infinity Stones, so that movie is pretty essential. I would argue that Cap 1 and Avengers 1 is pretty important as well.
Black Panther and Spidey was introduced in Civil War, and what happens in those stand-alone movies doesn't really have an impact on IW. Neither does really Guardians 2.

I would say that the most important movies to watch are:

Captain America 1
The Avengers
Guardians 1
Age of Ultron
Civil War
Dr.Strange
Thor Ragnarok