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« Reply #665 on: September 08, 2017, 08:46:17 PM »
The Doctor Strange thing is just poor writing. The beginning of the movie cements it taking place no earlier than 2016. 

Well, maybe.  The appearance of Avengers Tower would seem to put it during the time as the events in Age of Ultron.  But then we have Pangborn saying his accident happened years before, and the date of his x-ray being December 2014.

Huh? Really? I remember seeing some kind of award he had before the accident that was dated 2016.
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« Reply #666 on: September 08, 2017, 11:08:44 PM »
Binged watched Jessica Jones and loved every bit of it.

Watching Luke Cage episode one right now..........why does this feel like a blaxpoitation flick?
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« Reply #667 on: September 09, 2017, 12:04:52 AM »
UPDATE:  Episode 2 was better.
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« Reply #668 on: September 09, 2017, 12:20:51 AM »
UPDATE:  Episode 2 was better.


It's an amazing show until the last 3 or whatever episodes. It's not really Iron Fist level then, but it's pretty meh.
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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe *SPOILERS* 2
« Reply #669 on: September 09, 2017, 05:46:01 AM »
UPDATE:  Episode 2 was better.


It's an amazing show until the last 3 or whatever episodes. It's not really Iron Fist level then, but it's pretty meh.

Yeah ... as soon as Diamondback shows up, it goes downhill from there.  When the villain focus was with Mariah and Shades, it was awesome.
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« Reply #670 on: September 09, 2017, 10:12:06 AM »
Ya.  I'm not liking it as much as JJ, but it is getting a little better.   With the first episode, I literally thought I was watching a joke.  I hadn't seen stereotypes that over the top since Blackula. 

I kept picturing a regal, rich, milquetoast white director telling "Cottonmouth".....  "That was reeeaalllly good.   Could we do that take one more time?  And maybe this time, could you be a little moorrree........black?"
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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe *SPOILERS* 2
« Reply #671 on: September 09, 2017, 06:05:00 PM »
I enjoyed Luke Cage, but I just didn't think it's villain(s) was on par with either Kingpin or Killgrave, they were just fucking outstanding.
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« Reply #672 on: September 09, 2017, 06:13:45 PM »
I enjoyed Luke Cage, but I just didn't think it's villain(s) was on par with either Kingpin or Killgrave, they were just fucking outstanding.

Yea, Kilgrave and Kingpin really brought villains to a whole new level. I'd put Cottonmouth close, but not quite there. Diamondback was more on par with something from Batman Forever.
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« Reply #673 on: September 10, 2017, 04:38:14 AM »
I enjoyed Luke Cage, but I just didn't think it's villain(s) was on par with either Kingpin or Killgrave, they were just fucking outstanding.

Yea, Kilgrave and Kingpin really brought villains to a whole new level. I'd put Cottonmouth close, but not quite there. Diamondback was more on par with something from Batman Forever.

This exactly.  Kilgrave and Kingpin as 1a and 1b; Shades as #2.
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« Reply #674 on: September 10, 2017, 09:58:38 AM »
I enjoyed Luke Cage, but I just didn't think it's villain(s) was on par with either Kingpin or Killgrave, they were just fucking outstanding.

Yea, Kilgrave and Kingpin really brought villains to a whole new level. I'd put Cottonmouth close, but not quite there. Diamondback was more on par with something from Batman Forever.

This exactly.  Kilgrave and Kingpin as 1a and 1b; Shades as #2.

Id put Cottonmouth above Shades.
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« Reply #675 on: September 10, 2017, 10:24:23 AM »
On the other hand, the soundtrack from Luke Cage was off the frikkin hook.
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« Reply #676 on: September 10, 2017, 12:27:03 PM »
IDK.   I mean, I do like the Luke Cage story.   But man....any one of you guys ever see the movie Hollywood Shuffle?  Produced, directed and co-written by Robert Townsend, it was a satirical poke at the types of roles that black actors get in Hollywood.  This whole series just has that same kinda "feel" to it.   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXvTyk9kPsQ

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« Reply #677 on: September 10, 2017, 02:55:09 PM »
Ya.  I'm not liking it as much as JJ, but it is getting a little better.   With the first episode, I literally thought I was watching a joke.  I hadn't seen stereotypes that over the top since Blackula. 

I kept picturing a regal, rich, milquetoast white director telling "Cottonmouth".....  "That was reeeaalllly good.   Could we do that take one more time?  And maybe this time, could you be a little moorrree........black?"


Well, the showrunner is black, and I haven't heard this criticism coming from anyone else, so I'm thinking maybe you're reading a little too much into things. 

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« Reply #678 on: September 10, 2017, 02:59:48 PM »
Luke Cage was born in an era of all of those films you mention and was kind a response to it all. So yes, the show is going to have some that vibe as an homage to his origins.
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« Reply #679 on: September 10, 2017, 04:23:50 PM »
Luke Cage was born in an era of all of those films you mention and was kind a response to it all. So yes, the show is going to have some that vibe as an homage to his origins.

THIS makes more sense.  If it's an intentional homage to the blaxploitation genre, then that's slightly different.
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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe *SPOILERS* 2
« Reply #680 on: September 11, 2017, 04:01:32 AM »
I really liked Luke Cage for the first two-thirds, and then it was pretty silly for the last few episodes which was such a shame.

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« Reply #681 on: September 13, 2017, 09:53:42 AM »
I never saw it.  I've been selective in my Marvel tv show viewing, simply as a factor of time, and am now behind.  I watched Daredevil, season 1 and enjoyed it.  Started season 2 awhile back and didn't finish.  Not that it wasn't good--it is.  But it wasn't great, and I just got distracted and didn't finish it.  The tv shows are a bit hard to watch, since they aren't for kids, which limits the time my wife and I can watch (and I have to make sure she is available to watch during those limited times, or else she gets mad that I got ahead of her. :lol ).  We picked it back up now and are going to finish.  I just wish it were more compelling.  Yeah, it's good.  But I fell asleep during an episode the other night, and I feel like it should be good enough that there is no way I could fall asleep during an episode.  Anyhow...

I want to move on to the Defenders, but I guess I'll first have to watch Jessica Jones, Iron Fist, and Luke Cage so I'm not lost.  It just seems like such an investment in time for characters I am not familiar with or that interested in that I'm not sure I'll get to it.  I guess we'll see...
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« Reply #682 on: September 13, 2017, 10:08:38 AM »
I never saw it.  I've been selective in my Marvel tv show viewing, simply as a factor of time, and am now behind.  I watched Daredevil, season 1 and enjoyed it.  Started season 2 awhile back and didn't finish.  Not that it wasn't good--it is.  But it wasn't great, and I just got distracted and didn't finish it.  The tv shows are a bit hard to watch, since they aren't for kids, which limits the time my wife and I can watch (and I have to make sure she is available to watch during those limited times, or else she gets mad that I got ahead of her. :lol ).  We picked it back up now and are going to finish.  I just wish it were more compelling.  Yeah, it's good.  But I fell asleep during an episode the other night, and I feel like it should be good enough that there is no way I could fall asleep during an episode.  Anyhow...

I want to move on to the Defenders, but I guess I'll first have to watch Jessica Jones, Iron Fist, and Luke Cage so I'm not lost.  It just seems like such an investment in time for characters I am not familiar with or that interested in that I'm not sure I'll get to it.  I guess we'll see...
I get that, it's definitely a bigger investment of time than the movies, being TV shows.

The first seasons of Daredevil and Jessica Jones were amazing, in my opinion. The next three seasons (DD s2, LC, IF) were all fine, but had their flaws and were weaker overall. The Defenders was a great return to form, but I do feel it would be a lot less enjoyable without having seen all the other seasons.

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« Reply #683 on: September 13, 2017, 11:33:56 AM »
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« Reply #684 on: September 13, 2017, 11:26:18 PM »
So I guess it's safe to say that Inhumans tanked? Must say from the teasers/trailers it Always felt wrong. Looked wrong.

Now the Gifted, however, looks way more promising.
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« Reply #685 on: September 13, 2017, 11:35:52 PM »
So I guess it's safe to say that Inhumans tanked? Must say from the teasers/trailers it Always felt wrong. Looked wrong.

Now the Gifted, however, looks way more promising.

Haven't read any reviews of the Gifted, but the few reviews of The Runaways that I saw were very positive. Looking forward to both.

I think the only one I just don't care about is Cloak and Dagger. I like the characters, but the show looks.....I dunno.
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« Reply #686 on: September 14, 2017, 04:43:56 AM »
Hmmm I will be checking Cloak and Dagger out to see if it's any good. I used to love to read the comics about them. 
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« Reply #688 on: September 20, 2017, 11:56:39 AM »
Saw that... 10lbs of awesome in a 5lb bag.  Can't wait for this one.
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« Reply #689 on: September 20, 2017, 01:18:16 PM »
Bernthal is PERFECT for this part. I have seen a ruff cut of the first 2 shows. This has promise maybe more than people think

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« Reply #690 on: September 20, 2017, 07:44:57 PM »
That trailer looks insane. I am so pumped for that show.
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« Reply #691 on: September 20, 2017, 11:15:40 PM »
YES.


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« Reply #692 on: September 21, 2017, 05:26:32 PM »
Wow....that looks...really really violent.   

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« Reply #693 on: September 21, 2017, 05:31:41 PM »
Wow....that looks...really really violent.   

I'll pass.

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« Reply #694 on: September 21, 2017, 06:10:38 PM »
If they truly stay true to The Punisher/Frank, yeah it is going to be violent. From the first 2 ruff cut episodes I have seen its more his story, revenge, more than just violence,

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« Reply #695 on: September 21, 2017, 06:32:14 PM »
The gunfire to the rhythm of One is fantastic.

Also the show looks cool. Hopefully it's better than Luke Cage and Iron Fist.
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« Reply #696 on: September 21, 2017, 06:36:26 PM »
From the 2 episodes I have seen,,,,,,,,, you will have no worries

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« Reply #697 on: September 21, 2017, 09:11:58 PM »
The gunfire to the rhythm of One is fantastic.

Also the show looks cool. Hopefully it's better than Luke Cage and Iron Fist.

I hope it's as good, if not better than the first 8 or whatever episodes of Luke Cage and all of Iron Fist.



Also, it's being reported that Inhumans is already cancelled. Meaning it'll be whatever they filmed and nothing more.
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« Reply #698 on: September 23, 2017, 06:09:30 AM »
Trailer looks insanely good. I hope it lives up to it.

Defenders started off well enough, but again petered out and that season ending was ridiculously bad. I had high hopes.
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« Reply #699 on: September 29, 2017, 02:33:24 PM »
I have a theory for Infinity War, sort of.  I guess I should say **********SPOILERS************** just in case, even though it's just a theory.  So, here goes...




















A couple of things, really.  The first relates to the last infinity stone (the soul stone).  It's hard to not fall into the "find the McGuffin" mode of thinking when we've got so many installments and we know it is all leading up to a quest to find and, depending on which side you are on, either unite or keep separate the six infinity stones.  I've given my opinion in the past that I think it makes the most sense for it to probably show up in Ragnarok.  I recently read a new theory about how and why it shows up in that film, and based on what we know about Ragnarok, it makes perfect sense and seems pretty likely to me.   And, no, it isn't the Heimdall theory, although he does tie into it.  Google "the last infinity stone has been hiding in plain sight" if you want to know more (and I quite like the pun involved in that wording).  If true, that theory makes a lot of sense.  I think it would be smarter for Marvel to hold off and actually not introduce it until the first Infinity War film.  It kind of makes sense that that first film would be all about the race to find it.  But I think it may very well end up being in Ragnorok instead.  I guess we'll see.

The second thing is, I think Nebula is going to play a major role in Thanos' ultimate defeat.  I know she's a fairly minor character.  But her character took on a much larger role in Guardians 2 than I would have thought, and that kind of seemed out of the blue unless it is for a larger purpose.  Guardians 2 also made me realize a couple of things about her relationship with Thanos:  she hates him; she has a relationship with him; and she is motivated.  She's also not very competent, however, and makes dumb decisions based on her emotions, so there's that.  But it just seems to me that she's in a good position to be overlooked and to throw a monkey wrench into his plans.  It would also seem somewhat poetic if it wasn't actually the Avengers that took him down, but a lesser important character that enabled his defeat.  I dunno.  I could be way off on this, but the thought occurred to me, so I thought I'd share it. 
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