Marvel's Movie/TV Universe v2 (SPOILERS)

[Zook]

Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 was pretty good, but not great. It was entertaining, but i felt a little bored at times. They sure are getting good with that reverse aging CGI though.

[Adami]

Okay I'm close to giving up on Runaways.

It's getting REALLY dumb. Super typical CW melodramatic.

Also, since she's on screen, I feel like they wrote Molly to be the 9 or whatever year old that she is in the comics, but then cast a 14 year old to play her and it is really awful.

Also they need to change the name to "Kids who live at home with their parents and show no sign of ever running away"

[BlackInk]

Sticking with Runaways because it’s MCU, it’s interesting enough, and the characters are decent. Except Molly, the idiot.

[Adami]

Episode 8 of the Runaways.

STILL HAVEN'T RUN AWAY

[jammindude]

I feel like Ive barely touched the surface, and yet Marvel is already my favorite thing to happen to modern day entertainment.   Yesterday, I binged watched a bit more of Agents of SHIELD.   I'm up to Episode 17 of Season one, and I'm having such a blast.   Finding out Ward was with Hydra just blew my doors off.   I like seeing the Hydra story lines get a bit more fleshed out because it seems like the whole Hydra thing got abandoned in the movies.   

[lordxizor]

Kinda wish I had stuck with Agents of Shield. I gave up halfway through season one when it wasn't very good, but I've heard it's much better now. I don't have the time to binge watch shows to catch up.

[bosk1]

I feel like Ive barely touched the surface, and yet Marvel is already my favorite thing to happen to modern day entertainment.   Yesterday, I binged watched a bit more of Agents of SHIELD.   I'm up to Episode 17 of Season one, and I'm having such a blast.   Finding out Ward was with Hydra just blew my doors off.   I like seeing the Hydra story lines get a bit more fleshed out because it seems like the whole Hydra thing got abandoned in the movies.   

Oh, wow.  You've got a LOT of fun stuff ahead of you.

[BlackInk]

Severely disappointed with the handling of Chase’s character in the most recent Runaways episode. I could completely relate to his position as the argument began but the writers displayed uncharacteristic levels of stupidity with him when they had him smash the computer. Goddam it, that’s the sort of shit that turns me against certain shows.

[contest_sanity]

^ I mean, Chase had def been through some traumatic shit in that episode, so I can understand him being kinda out of control, but for the story to allow him to completely destroy the laptop? Yeah, you kinda wonder: well, where do they go from here? I guess they perhaps now have Molly's vhs tape as a backup, and maybe Frank Dean as a possible adult ally, but it will be interesting to see what happens now...

[axeman90210]

I feel like Ive barely touched the surface, and yet Marvel is already my favorite thing to happen to modern day entertainment.   Yesterday, I binged watched a bit more of Agents of SHIELD.   I'm up to Episode 17 of Season one, and I'm having such a blast.   Finding out Ward was with Hydra just blew my doors off.   I like seeing the Hydra story lines get a bit more fleshed out because it seems like the whole Hydra thing got abandoned in the movies.   

Oh, wow.  You've got a LOT of fun stuff ahead of you.

You still current? How do you like the current run of episodes?

[bosk1]

I feel like Ive barely touched the surface, and yet Marvel is already my favorite thing to happen to modern day entertainment.   Yesterday, I binged watched a bit more of Agents of SHIELD.   I'm up to Episode 17 of Season one, and I'm having such a blast.   Finding out Ward was with Hydra just blew my doors off.   I like seeing the Hydra story lines get a bit more fleshed out because it seems like the whole Hydra thing got abandoned in the movies.   

Oh, wow.  You've got a LOT of fun stuff ahead of you.

You still current? How do you like the current run of episodes?

Actually, I had forgotten that it started again.  Shoot, I hope I remembered to DVR it...

I have a question about the Netflix shows for all y'all.  The only one I have watched is Daredevil.  Overall, I liked a lot about it, but I did find it kind of tedious to get through.  And the VERY dark, violent nature of it, as well as some of the other adult content, meant that it wasn't something we could just pop on the tv anytime with the kids.  It was strictly a "the kids have finally gone to bed and we have enough time to get through an episode before I pass out" viewing experience, which made it logistically challenging to watch.  My ongoing challenge is that my wife kinda lost interest, and we are now pretty far behind the curve in terms of all the other Netflix Marvel shows that have popped up.  But she thought Defenders looked kinda cool and wants to check it out.  So my question is, which other shows are (1) necessary for background prior to watching Defenders, and (2) which other ones are pretty good in general and match what you guys know of my tastes?  Feel free to fill in as much description as you like, without big spoilers.  Keep in mind that the characters in these Netflix series are characters I did not follow in the comics and am generally unfamiliar with (I most mostly a mutants and Spiderman guy, who ventured out into other characters or groups sporadically).

[BlackInk]

I'd say for the sake of understanding the lore of The Defenders, maybe Iron Fist is the most important. But it's not at all the best.

In terms of what's good. My favorite thing Marvel has done with Netflix is still Jessica Jones season 1. It also has what I consider to be the best villain of the entire MCU.

[jingle.boy]

^ He's right.  Daredevil Season 2 is pretty important in the lead up to the Defenders as well.

Luke Cage up to episode 9 or 10 was really great as well, but not necessary viewing in the grand scheme of The Defenders.

[axeman90210]

Haven't watched Iron Fist or The Defenders yet, so I can't comment on what's important as far as setting the table storyline-wise. I'll say that Daredevil season 1 is still my favorite, followed closely behind by Jessica Jones season 1. Daredevil season 2 and Luke Cage are both a tier below, but still certainly enjoyable. They're both too long by at least a couple episodes, and I found that Daredevil s2 had more filler than Luke Cage, but it also had better filler. All of it is "the kids have gone to bed" in terms of content though.

[bosk1]

For Daredevil, I definitely prefer season 1.  Season 2 isn't bad.  And Electra is one of my favorite Marvel characters.  But season 1 was so well done.

[Podaar]

This is DTF, so for the Netflix Marvel series.

1a. Jessica Jones
1b. Daredevil S1
2.   Punisher
3.   Daredevil S2
4.   The Defenders
5.   Luke Cage
6.   Ironfist

[Adami]

This is DTF, so for the Netflix Marvel series.

1a. Jessica Jones
1b. Daredevil S1
2.   Punisher
3.   Daredevil S2
4.   The Defenders
5.   Luke Cage
6.   Ironfist

Mine is REALLY similar.

1. Daredevil S1, Jessica Jones, Punisher
2. Daredevil S2
3. Defenders
4. Luke Cage
5. Iron Fist

Honestly if Luke Cage had just ended after like 10 episodes, it would be above Defenders.

[jingle.boy]

This is DTF, so for the Netflix Marvel series.

1a. Jessica Jones
1b. Daredevil S1
2.   Punisher
3.   Daredevil S2
4.   The Defenders
5.   Luke Cage
6.   Ironfist

Mine is REALLY similar.

1. Daredevil S1, Jessica Jones, Punisher
2. Daredevil S2
3. Defenders
4. Luke Cage
5. Iron Fist

Honestly if Luke Cage had just ended after like 10 episodes, it would be above Defenders.

  This list is spot on.

[Adami]

I know I rant against Runaways a lot, but it just annoys me.

The newest episode actually was halfway decent. Finally got a couple together and ended on a good note.

BUT




THEY'RE CALLING THEMSELVES THE RUNAWAYS IN HONOR OF OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE RUN AWAY?!?!!!?

[jammindude]

I will probably get back to Luke Cage.  I only saw the first 2 or 3 episodes, but it played so much like a blaxploitation flick that I had trouble taking it seriously.  But then I kindof got the impression that that was the point, so maybe I'll give it another chance. 

I started watching DD, and I was loving the story.  But I'm really not a big violence guy, and when that baddie impaled his own head on a spike in episode 3, I couldn't turn it off fast enough.  I just plain don't like it, but also my wife has PTSD, and she actually had to be calmed down for a few after that happened.  We really weren't expecting something quite that extreme.  But I had heard the warnings, so I should have known.   I still might go back to it.  I just hope that a scene like that is relatively rare. 

Needless to say I probably won't watch Punisher.   It just looks a bit over the top from the trailers. 

[Adami]

It gets more violent.

[jammindude]

Oh well then.  Guess I'm just in the minority.  EDIT - But I actually really appreciate the heads up, so thank you.

[Adami]

Oh well then.  Guess I'm just in the minority.  EDIT - But I actually really appreciate the heads up, so thank you.

Yea, these shows are definitely not fun light entertainment. If violence, suffering, and over all darkness isn't something you're into, then DD and Punisher are out.

JJ too possibly.

Iron First is fine cause it's just so bad that the violence is laughable.

And Defenders is about as PG as it gets (minus a few scenes).

Luke Cage isn't too bad on the violence. So that should be fine.

[jammindude]

Actually, I *LOVED* Jessica Jones.  It was a dark mood, and some sexy stuff (not a bad thing when you're with the wife) but I don't recall anything quite as bad as the DD scene I referenced.   Well.....maybe one in the whole series.   (That scene in the park).  But mostly I didn't find it to be quite as bad.

[BlackInk]

JJ is more disturbing to me than DD but in other ways, which is why I love it.

[Podaar]

Actually, I *LOVED* Jessica Jones.  It was a dark mood, and some sexy stuff (not a bad thing when you're with the wife) but I don't recall anything quite as bad as the DD scene I referenced.   Well.....maybe one in the whole series.   (That scene in the park).  But mostly I didn't find it to be quite as bad.

See, I don't get this. Fisticuffs, brutal gun play, knifings, and murder by car door, are all reasons to turn your head or punch the power button. But a guy uses the power of his mind to force kids into the closet for a week at a time, or have a dude jump off a building, or shoot his girl friend, or to knife his husband, or have his own father put his hand in a blender, or the myriad of other mind-bogglingly horrific shit Killgrave did in Jessica Jones and ... 

For my money, Punisher is way less disturbing and damn near as good.

[jammindude]

I guess it has to to with hinted at, and psychological mind **** (which I don’t mind) vs. graphic portrayal of actual violence and gore. And I’m not saying JJ had none. I said plainly that the hedge trimmer scene in the park bothered me just as much. But I don’t recall it being a common thing throughout the series. I was thinking of going back to DD in hopes there wouldn’t be *a lot* more of that, but then it was said that the show gets even worse. That makes me rethink it.

[jammindude]

3 episodes left in season 2, and it ended with the reference to the events about to take place in Age of Ultron. I’m thinking about rewatching that before proceeding. I know it’s not necessary, but I’m having fun with this. I almost wish I would have watched Winter Soldier at the point it fell into the timeline...probably would have had more weight seeing the fall of SHIELD and the “death” of Fury in sequence.

[gzarruk]

And AOS gets better with each season, so you still have a ton of great episodes to watch

[gzarruk]

Btw, did anyone here watch The Gifted? I started the other day and it’s not bad, I think I’ll watch the whole season.

[Adami]

Btw, did anyone here watch The Gifted? I started the other day and it’s not bad, I think I’ll watch the whole season.

Yup! I'd call it consistently good. Never really amazing though, or terrible.

I hope they try to do a bit more next season. It's got a ton of potential, but they're playing it way too small.


However, introducing the Cuckoo siblings was amazing.

[gzarruk]

Makes sense they played it safe for the first season, hope it gets renewed (if it isn’t already).

[Adami]

Makes sense they played it safe for the first season, hope it gets renewed (if it isn’t already).

Pretty sure it has been renewed. I'm excited for the next season. I also hope the movies don't cripple them too much in who they are or aren't allowed to use.

[BlackInk]

Stopped watching the Gifted maybe 5 episodes in. Juat never grabbed me. But then again I was never a big X-Men fan.

[bosk1]

3 episodes left in season 2, and it ended with the reference to the events about to take place in Age of Ultron. I’m thinking about rewatching that before proceeding. I know it’s not necessary, but I’m having fun with this. I almost wish I would have watched Winter Soldier at the point it fell into the timeline...probably would have had more weight seeing the fall of SHIELD and the “death” of Fury in sequence.

Yeah, we were watching ALMOST in real time at that point, so it was cool how it all tied in together.  The end of season 2 is really good.  The show has definitely found itself at that point in time and is running at full stride.  In season 3, you'll see how it really starts to go its own way and do its own completely separate story while still solidly feeling like a part of the MCU.  Seasons 3 and 4 are pretty creepy, but very cool as well.  I will warn you that I think season 4 requires some patience.  In the beginning, it really feels like it is meandering all over the place, perhaps with no goal other than trying to build a storyline around a well-known Marvel character and shoehorn that into AoS.  But in the end, it works well.  You just have to bear with it while it gets there.