Marvel's Movie/TV Universe v2 (SPOILERS)

[DougMasters]

I didn't have a problem with Iron Fist in the Defenders.

We did a podcast on the Defenders,

I specifically admit I minded him less in the Defenders but by god I still think his character is obnoxious.

The actor though, Finn Jones, is amazing. I just hate the character, ever so much.

He was right though, tying him up was a big mistake.

[Adami]

So I watched the first two Inhumans episodes.


Damn that was bad. I'll start with the pros though.....

Pros:
Blackbolt. For the most part, he wasn't bad. Had some decent moments. I had very low expectations though for him.
Medussa. Not a bad actress. Not great, but not bad.
Lockjaw is really cute actually.
........................


Cons:
Gorgon. Dude was awful. Every scene. Every piece of dialogue. Everything. Just awfu.
Triton. Pointless and terrible.
Crystal. Truly horrible B grade level everything.
The sign language. I won't go into why I hated this, cause it would be a long rant but......no. Just no.
Everything else. Just awful.

So many bad things that I get lost as to where to start.


Here's a visual analogy comparing how the show should have been on the left, and how it turned out on the right.

[The Trooper]

one of their biggest f ups. it is truly bad

[King Postwhore]

I love Anson Mount as an actor. His role on "Hell On Wheels" was amazing.  Black Bolt is a tough role to play not being able to talk.

[Adami]

I love Anson Mount as an actor. His role on "Hell On Wheels" was amazing.  Black Bolt is a tough role to play not being able to talk.

He definitely wasn't the worst part of the show. Honestly, his acting was fine. The writing is what killed his character. Same with Medusa.



The rest of them though.....

[King Postwhore]

 I have it dvr'd and I'll follow through the whole season because I want to keep up with the Marvel timeline but it's obvious how they went from a movie to a TV show and what went wrong.

[Adami]

I have it dvr'd and I'll follow through the whole season because I want to keep up with the Marvel timeline but it's obvious how they went from a movie to a TV show and what went wrong.

Oh so many things went wrong. Just so many things. Honestly, I couldn't even type up all of my thoughts on the first two episodes. I have so many things to say that I'd break my keyboard.



Sadly I can't expect the next 6 episodes to be much better, assuming they don't just disregard everything and start again.

[King Postwhore]

Oh, I hear ya.  It's so short that I think I can invest my time hopefully it gets slightly better.

[BlackInk]

Yeah, Inhumans really wasn't good. Best thing about it was the villain though, I actually agree with that guy. Maybe his way to go about things aren't the best but hey, I'm rooting for that guy.

[jingle.boy]

It's never a good sign when the pro's simply that certain aspects 'weren't bad'.  I gave up on this with the first trailer.

[King Postwhore]

It wasn't as bad as others were saying. To me it's on the level as Agents Of Shield.

[jingle.boy]

It wasn't as bad as others were saying. To me it's on the level as Agents Of Shield.

Did you watch it before your first coffee this morning?

[King Postwhore]

 

With my first cup.  It's ok.  Not great but just ok.

[faizoff]

Finally got to watch Doctor Strange. Such a great movie and the effects are just flat out amazing. Loved the story, the acting, everything. I think this may just end up in one of my top 5 Marvel movies.
I'm all caught up with the MCU movies and cannot wait for Thor next month.

[Adami]

It wasn't as bad as others were saying. To me it's on the level as Agents Of Shield.

What? Minus the first season, Agents is awesome. People, I feel, gave up after a few episodes and just kind of assumed it stayed bad. It is a fantastic show.

[King Postwhore]

Agents is good not great.  I still follow it.  I'm not bothered when a show it not great.  I still enjoy it.

[Adami]

Agents is good not great.  I still follow it.  I'm not bothered when a show it not great.  I still enjoy it.

You'd really put the first two episodes of Inhumans on the same level as the Ghost Rider or LMD storylines of Shield?

I mean, I guess different strokes, but I think Agents is really great. As far as Marvel goes, I'd put it above Iron Fist, Luke Cage and the Defenders.

[King Postwhore]

No but I put it the same as the 1st 2 episodes as AOS.

[Adami]

No but I put it the same as the 1st 2 episodes as AOS.

Okay that I can get behind.








Wait...no I can't. The first two episodes of Shield are dumb. But I can literally write a thesis on what I didn't like about Inhumans. Shield had the upper edge in that all of their characters were not from the comics, and therefore they didn't risk looking dumb for changing them into meaningless trash.

[King Postwhore]

 

I won't get that deep as you did in analyzing it, I'm just talking about the enjoyment factor. But I get where you're coming from.

[Adami]

I think one difference is that blank slate I mentioned.

When Shield started, we knew Phil and the actor had already gotten that character down. But we didn't know anyone else. Fitz, Simmons, May, Skye or whatever, Grant etc. were all blank slates. They can take their time and figure the characters out since we don't already have any ideas or attachments.

However I am very familiar with Black Bolt, Medusa, Gorgon, Karnak, Maximus, Crystal and Triton. And they royally (pun intended) screwed up all of those characters to varying degrees.

If they had changed the name of the shows and the characters names, it'd be bad, but not as insulting.

[jammindude]

Speaking of AoS.    Did anyone know that the actress who plays May is 53 and the actor who plays Grant is 34?   She's literally old enough to be his mother.


YOU GO GIRL!!!!!!!   

(btw....when I expressed this to a group of friends, this fact apparently had everyone trying desperately to not reveal a related spoiler....so, just remember I'm only on episode 9)

[Adami]

Speaking of AoS.    Did anyone know that the actress who plays May is 53 and the actor who plays Grant is 34?   She's literally old enough to be his mother.


YOU GO GIRL!!!!!!!   

(btw....when I expressed this to a group of friends, this fact apparently had everyone trying desperately to not reveal a related spoiler....so, just remember I'm only on episode 9)

Ming Na may be 53, but she can have me whenever she wants.

[bosk1]

AoS is fantastic.  King, you are losing your mind.  I think dementia may be setting in.

[King Postwhore]

 

I'm talking 1st 2 episodes for each show. Let's see if it can make 3 years silly!

[BlackInk]

Also, is it just me, or was the death of Black Bolt's parents absolutely hilarious?

[Nekov]

Related to the conversation, I stopped watching AoS when Ghost Rider showed up, not becuase of the character but because I feel the show had been getting cheesier and more predictable as time passed. I really stopped enjoying it.

As far as The Defenders goes, I finished watching it yesterday. I liked some of it because it incorporates some of the best elements out of the 4 shows but in also incorporates some of the bad, like that scene where luke, daredevil and jessica are facing the remaining 3 hand members and they just start a staring contest, the camera focusing on them 1 by 1, that's just cheesy and unnecessary, just have them kick ass without the stupid preamble.
I agree that Iron Fist is still an obnouxious character and would like to see his character develop more but I guess that will come later.
I did find the critique on oil companies to be very nicely done though.

[Adami]

For very obvious reasons, The Punisher has been delayed for an unknown period of time.

In other news, I actually enjoyed the pilot for The Gifted. Not perfect or brilliant, but Was quite enjoyable.

[BlackInk]

I guess it was fine, but there really wasn’t much to hook me. But then again I never really liked the concept of the X-Men or ”mutants”, so it’ll have to do even more work than usual to win me over.

[contest_sanity]

Runaways trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6_0dJkjFAM

I'm really pumped for this one! I keep a lot of comic books in my classroom (English teacher) for independent reading, and Runaways is always one of the most popular.

[Adami]

Yea, I'm excited about Runaways. I love the comics and that trailer looked directly out of their origin run.

I wonder if they will change things, or else I am very aware of the twist ending.

[bosk1]

I'm confused about something.  So, according to this article, there will only be one, single Infinity Wars film.  The next Avengers film in 2019 will be something completely different.  This is news to me.  But their "source" is an old 2016 article when it was first announced that the second film would simply not be titled "Infinity Wars 2."  Has anyone come out and actually said that the Infinity Wars story will only be a single film?  I never took that from the naming announcement.  But maybe I somehow missed it.  Anyone know?

[ariich]

Everything I've read suggests that it will certainly follow on from Infinity War. The latest thing I read supporting that notion was that Ragnarok - Infinity War - untitled IW2 forms a sort of trilogy for the Hulk.

[Metro]

I'm confused about something.  So, according to this article, there will only be one, single Infinity Wars film.  The next Avengers film in 2019 will be something completely different.  This is news to me.  But their "source" is an old 2016 article when it was first announced that the second film would simply not be titled "Infinity Wars 2."  Has anyone come out and actually said that the Infinity Wars story will only be a single film?  I never took that from the naming announcement.  But maybe I somehow missed it.  Anyone know?

The second film(previously known as Infinity War Pt.2) will probably be a continuation of Infinity War, but it doesn't have an official title yet because apparently the title is a spoiler for Infinity War.
I say "probably" because as much as they've been building up Thanos since 2012, I doubt he'd just be a one-and-done villain. Infinity War has him first encountering the Avengers and fighting for the Infinity Stones(Hence the "War") and the second film will have him actually in control of the gauntlet.

[Adami]

I'm confused about something.  So, according to this article, there will only be one, single Infinity Wars film.  The next Avengers film in 2019 will be something completely different.  This is news to me.  But their "source" is an old 2016 article when it was first announced that the second film would simply not be titled "Infinity Wars 2."  Has anyone come out and actually said that the Infinity Wars story will only be a single film?  I never took that from the naming announcement.  But maybe I somehow missed it.  Anyone know?

The second movie is definitely related. They were even going to film them at the same time but it was too complicated.