Author Topic: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe v2 (SPOILERS) (Read 250436 times)

Adami · « **Reply #1995 on:** November 29, 2018, 08:24:20 PM »

They can do whatever they want movie wise. They probably aren't going to get rid of Fox, they'll just own it too. Disney can release Deadpool or even a porn of Wolverine butt raping Storm, as long as it's under the Fox label.

That's why I'm harping on the Disney label of the streaming service. They're fine doing Daredevil, as long as it's released under the Netflix label.

If they want, they can keep the X-Men universe under the Fox label, have it be separate from the MCU and go R rated as often as they want. Don't forget that Disney owned Miramax when Pulp Fiction was released.

ProfessorPeart · « **Reply #1996 on:** November 29, 2018, 09:03:41 PM »

Don't forget, Disney owns a big chunk of Hulu and has said that they plan on spending big $$$ investing even deeper into it. Maybe the more adult shows go to Hulu so they can't get too watered down, or at all.

One can hope.

Well, Disney could potentially take near total control of Hulu. They have 60% now and Comcast has 30%. If Comcast sells out to Disney it is pretty much a Disney platform.

https://www.multichannel.com/news/comcast-ready-to-sell-30-hulu-stake-to-disney-report-says

Cyclopssss · « **Reply #1997 on:** November 30, 2018, 01:26:22 AM »

Damnit! Hate it when I'm right. F*** Disney!

lordxizor · « **Reply #1998 on:** November 30, 2018, 06:10:13 AM »

It sounds to me based on what I've previously read that Disney family material (PG-13 and below) will be on Disney+, anything more adult or R-rated will go to Hulu. I hope they keep the 20th Century Fox brand for R-rated theatrical releases.

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #1999 on:** November 30, 2018, 09:39:31 AM »

I wouldn't worry so much about the Disney label. If memory serves, none of the Marvel or Lucasfilm movies have the Disney label attached to them. They are just owned by Disney. And all of them are going to be streamed on this new Disney service.

No reason for any shows to be any different.

Adami · « **Reply #2000 on:** November 30, 2018, 09:41:54 AM »

Yes, but none of the current MCU or Star Wars movies strays from the boundaries of the Disney mission statement.

The Netflix Marvel shows, especially Daredevil and Jessica Jones are quite far removed from that.

I can also assure you Logan and Deadpool will not be on the streaming service.

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #2001 on:** November 30, 2018, 09:46:32 AM »

Quote from: Adami on November 30, 2018, 09:41:54 AM

Yes, but none of the current MCU or Star Wars movies strays from the boundaries of the Disney mission statement.

The Netflix Marvel shows, especially Daredevil and Jessica Jones are quite far removed from that.

I can also assure you Logan and Deadpool will not be on the streaming service.

I wouldn't be so sure. Bob Iger said not long ago that after the Fox deal goes through, Kevin Feige would be over ALL of the Marvel stuff. He didn't want there to be two Marvels, one would be enough.

To me, that logic says that all of the Marvel stuff will be together, and since we know that the MCU stuff will be on the new service, it stands to reason that Logan and Deadpool will be also. Doing otherwise would be having two Marvels.

And that will surely make any of the Netflix shows OK to stream on the new service as well, because they are definitely tamer than Deadpool.

Just my two cents.

Adami · « **Reply #2002 on:** November 30, 2018, 09:55:28 AM »

Maybe. I just honestly can't imagine finding Logan, Deadpool, or DD on the official Disney Streaming Service.

Unless they just edit the HELL out of them to make them family friendly, which would also be awful.

But can you really picture a family sitting around saying "hey little Timmy, go watch something on the Disney app" and then Deadpool being a viable option? Unless Disney has parental controls, which would seem odd for Disney.

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #2003 on:** November 30, 2018, 11:49:10 AM »

I seem to remember them saying that there would be "channels" inside the service, such as the Marvel channel, the Star Wars channel, and the classic Disney film channel, etc.

Maybe warning labels or something will be incorporated into those?

Adami · « **Reply #2004 on:** November 30, 2018, 11:49:44 AM »

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 30, 2018, 11:49:10 AM

I seem to remember them saying that there would be "channels" inside the service, such as the Marvel channel, the Star Wars channel, and the classic Disney film channel, etc.

Maybe warning labels or something will be incorporated into those?

I hope so, Hef. For all of our sakes.

Samsara · « **Reply #2005 on:** December 03, 2018, 10:23:24 AM »

Quote from: Adami on November 29, 2018, 07:19:47 PM

Daredevil officially cancelled.

Honestly I'm okay with this. Seems like the Marvel Netflix shows are over (hoping JJ3 and Punisher 2 are great, sure they will be). I'm happy to see DD go out on such a high note. Would hate for it to return for the sake of it, become meh and then die off.

They wrapped DD pretty good with the end of Season 3, so its not like it is an issue that we're waiting for something to happen. But it still sucks. DD was the best (IMO) of all that Marvel stuff. I became a DD fan with it, and it still sits for me well above the others. My fingers are crossed for a DD movie featuring the show's cast. I think it may happen.

Adami · « **Reply #2006 on:** December 03, 2018, 11:00:35 AM »

Yea, I can't see that happening either. The political crap between the TV and Movie people is so huge apparently that they will likely never cross over unless some major personnel shifts happen.

I can see them rebooting it for Disney, making it much more family friendly, but honestly I say they call it quits. Story was told. Doesn't need to go on forever. So many other characters that work for family friendly audiences that they can do instead of ruining DD or JJ for the sake of keeping it going.

Samsara · « **Reply #2007 on:** December 03, 2018, 11:19:00 AM »

Good point. I don't want them neutering and recasting for Disney. I wouldn't bother then.

Interesting timing. Daredevil has a new set of writers and artists that begin a new volume of the comic in February. The last issue of the current great run (Vol. 5, which has been going on for a few years) just ended with last week's issue.

I wonder if that is all by design...

ProfessorPeart · « **Reply #2008 on:** December 03, 2018, 12:43:56 PM »

Everything points to this being solely Netflix call. A producer said they had a writer's room going for a while now and have Season 4 all mapped out. He said that Marvel was shocked by the cancellation.

https://www.cinemablend.com/television/2462637/daredevil-producer-says-marvel-execs-were-stunned-about-netflix-cancelling-the-show

Netflix seems to be honoring existing contracts and then purging anything related to the Mouse House.

axeman90210 · « **Reply #2009 on:** December 03, 2018, 03:50:23 PM »

My understanding is that Netflix had the right to renew the various Marvel series, but only at the negotiated rate/# of episodes. Netflix wanted shorter, 6-8 episode seasons due to both cost and quality, and Marvel balked at that.

Adami · « **Reply #2010 on:** December 03, 2018, 03:54:05 PM »

Quote from: axeman90210 on December 03, 2018, 03:50:23 PM

My understanding is that Netflix had the right to renew the various Marvel series, but only at the negotiated rate/# of episodes. Netflix wanted shorter, 6-8 episode seasons due to both cost and quality, and Marvel balked at that.

Where did you read that?

I have heard, and experienced this myself, that Netflix also basically buried the Marvel shows. From Iron Fist 2 onward, I had to search for the shows specifically. They did not show up in new releases or recommendations or anywhere. Netflix made them very very hard to find for a lot of us.

gzarruk · « **Reply #2011 on:** December 03, 2018, 04:08:49 PM »

Quote from: axeman90210 on December 03, 2018, 03:50:23 PM

My understanding is that Netflix had the right to renew the various Marvel series, but only at the negotiated rate/# of episodes. Netflix wanted shorter, 6-8 episode seasons due to both cost and quality, and Marvel balked at that.

I heard the same thing on Emergency Awesome.

jingle.boy · « **Reply #2012 on:** December 03, 2018, 04:35:50 PM »

Quote from: Adami on December 03, 2018, 03:54:05 PM

Quote from: axeman90210 on December 03, 2018, 03:50:23 PM
My understanding is that Netflix had the right to renew the various Marvel series, but only at the negotiated rate/# of episodes. Netflix wanted shorter, 6-8 episode seasons due to both cost and quality, and Marvel balked at that.

Where did you read that?

I have heard, and experienced this myself, that Netflix also basically buried the Marvel shows. From Iron Fist 2 onward, I had to search for the shows specifically. They did not show up in new releases or recommendations or anywhere. Netflix made them very very hard to find for a lot of us.

Ever try the "Search" feature?

Adami · « **Reply #2013 on:** December 03, 2018, 04:52:45 PM »

Do I look like I do my own work?

I have minions for that!

jingle.boy · « **Reply #2014 on:** December 03, 2018, 04:58:14 PM »

Seriously strong rumours A4 and Captain Marvel trailers this week - one tonight during MNF, and the other on Wednesday.

The Trooper · « **Reply #2015 on:** December 03, 2018, 06:07:09 PM »

Capt. Marvel at half time tonite. Avengers 4 on Good Morning America Wednesday morning

Adami · « **Reply #2016 on:** December 03, 2018, 06:10:18 PM »

I know Captain Marvel is confirmed. Is A4 confirmed?

Two thoughts on A4.

1) I'm having doubts the movie is real. Could be a prank.

2) Do they even need a trailer? Seriously. All you need is "AVENGERS (whatever) COMING (whenever)" That's it. Still will make over a billion dollars. No need to show a single clip of the movie, especially not the 15-20 minutes of the movie they will inevitably show in trailers/tv spots. This is one of those movies that is just money in the bank. No marketing push necessary.

The Trooper · « **Reply #2017 on:** December 03, 2018, 07:57:31 PM »

Captain Marvel trailer#2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2iolY9ka5Y

jingle.boy · « **Reply #2018 on:** December 03, 2018, 08:12:00 PM »

Badass. Love the classic look.

jammindude · « **Reply #2019 on:** December 03, 2018, 08:36:47 PM »

LOVED the trailer. It was just the right amount of "give away" too. Because even though I have a rough idea of the basic plot, it gives away absolutely nothing about how it will fit into the larger MCU.

I felt the same about A4....I think they should just have another teaser and forego the traditional trailer altogether. If anything, it would just raise the anticipation.

I keep waiting for the MCU to misfire, and I just don't think it's going to happen in the near future. I'm positive they will have to have a dud at some point. But at the same time, I have a feeling that A4 will be sortof "end of an era". Like the Score show was for DT. It's just going to be THAT big of an event, and that big of a turning point.

MinistroRaven · « **Reply #2020 on:** December 04, 2018, 07:25:15 AM »

Quote from: The Trooper on December 03, 2018, 07:57:31 PM

Captain Marvel trailer#2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2iolY9ka5Y

Can't f*cking wait

Adami · « **Reply #2021 on:** December 04, 2018, 07:26:51 AM »

Trailer looked awesome.

I'm hoping they don't do an A4 trailer anytime soon to be honest. I'd hate for people to so quickly move on from Captain Marvel. Plus the movie is 6 freakin months away. Give it time.

Also loved the appearance of Chewie.

Orbert · « **Reply #2022 on:** December 04, 2018, 08:36:05 AM »

Wait, what? Captain Marvel is Kree? Nick Fury with no eye patch? Is this a prequel-ish... thing?

This is why I usually don't watch trailers.

Adami · « **Reply #2023 on:** December 04, 2018, 08:48:24 AM »

Quote from: Orbert on December 04, 2018, 08:36:05 AM

Wait, what? Captain Marvel is Kree? Nick Fury with no eye patch? Is this a prequel-ish... thing?

This is why I usually don't watch trailers.

Set in the 90's.

I won't answer the Captain Marvel being Kree thing cause it might be spoilery.

Orbert · « **Reply #2024 on:** December 04, 2018, 11:23:39 AM »

Quote from: Adami on December 04, 2018, 08:48:24 AM

Quote from: Orbert on December 04, 2018, 08:36:05 AM
prequel-ish... thing?

Set in the 90's.

Ah.

Dream Team · « **Reply #2025 on:** December 04, 2018, 12:33:12 PM »

Quote from: Adami on December 04, 2018, 07:26:51 AM

Trailer looked awesome.

I'm hoping they don't do an A4 trailer anytime soon to be honest. I'd hate for people to so quickly move on from Captain Marvel. Plus the movie is 6 freakin months away. Give it time.

Also loved the appearance of Chewie.

Yeah, it'd just mean 6 months of torture when the trailer inevitably looks awesome.

The Trooper · « **Reply #2026 on:** December 04, 2018, 06:14:52 PM »

Avengers 4 trailer put of till Friday morning on Good Morning America so they can cover President Bush funeral.

Adami · « **Reply #2027 on:** December 04, 2018, 09:08:10 PM »

Looks like Chewie has been changed to Goose for the film.

Cool with that.

Dream Team · « **Reply #2028 on:** December 04, 2018, 09:51:22 PM »

Quote from: The Trooper on December 04, 2018, 06:14:52 PM

Avengers 4 trailer put of till Friday morning on Good Morning America so they can cover President Bush funeral.

They consider that more important than A4? Major fail.

jingle.boy · « **Reply #2029 on:** December 07, 2018, 06:10:39 AM »

It's out!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA6hldpSTF8

Excellent teaser trailer.

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Author Topic: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe v2 (SPOILERS) (Read 250436 times)