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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe *SPOILERS* 2
« Reply #1120 on: March 06, 2018, 10:21:15 AM »
Because we're actually concerned for Lonestar.


I get that you just want to build him up to break him down, but we actually care about him.

What happens when he goes to see Avengers 3 or 4, with that little glimmer of hope in his eye of seeing Adam Warlock and then......no Adam Warlock? What will he have to live for? He'll not only give up on the MCU, but maybe films as a medium. Then what will he have? Books?

BOOKS?!?!??!

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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe *SPOILERS* 2
« Reply #1121 on: March 06, 2018, 10:30:40 AM »
Dude, bosk, relax. Nobody's piling on or attacking you. Chill man  :lol
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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe *SPOILERS* 2
« Reply #1122 on: March 06, 2018, 10:32:46 AM »
:dunno:  I didn't say anybody was.  But I was just being accused of being overly literal, when the context of this entire line of posts should actually say the opposite. 
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« Reply #1123 on: March 06, 2018, 10:34:59 AM »
Dude, bosk, relax. Nobody's piling on or attacking you. Chill man  :lol

Huh?

I mean, I was going to pile on him, but in a very different way.
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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe *SPOILERS* 2
« Reply #1124 on: March 06, 2018, 10:35:26 AM »
Why so serious? It's all fun here.  :biggrin: EDIT: See Adami.  :lol
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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe *SPOILERS* 2
« Reply #1125 on: March 06, 2018, 10:38:01 AM »
Dude, bosk, relax. Nobody's piling on or attacking you. Chill man  :lol

Huh?

I mean, I was going to pile on him, but in a very different way.

:heybaby:

Why so serious? It's all fun here.  :biggrin:

Again, I'm not being overly serious.  The "it's all fun here" is exactly my point.
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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe *SPOILERS* 2
« Reply #1126 on: March 06, 2018, 10:41:43 AM »
You know what they say about text and the Internet... brb, gonna put on my homemade Spiderman onesie and save the day  :biggrin:
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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe *SPOILERS* 2
« Reply #1127 on: March 06, 2018, 10:52:53 AM »
On a more Marvel discussion-related note:  With the relatively rapid pace these films come out, and all the tv shows, it almost seems like we don't really get a chance to discuss these and let them sink in before we're off to the next thing.  Since we're kind of talking about Guardians in general, I wasn't really sure how I felt about Guardians 2 at the time it came out.  I own it, as I do all the Marvel films.  But it's one I think I've watched ONCE at home after seeing it in the theater.  It has some good things going for it, but I never really dug it all that much.  I kind of feel like it is two films.  The stuff with the Ravagers and Yondu was really good.  The stuff with Ego, on the other hand, while having some cool moments, pretty much fell flat for me and just seemed kinda dumb.  I mean, it was really important in a lot of ways.  But in the execution, I just didn't feel like it worked and made for a good movie.  Instead, it was just kind of the foil for a lot of other cool stuff to happen.  The first film was a lot better.  I don't mind silliness, but I just felt like Guardians 2 went too far and didn't really resonate in any meaningful way.  The first one was so unique and fun that I think maybe Gunn just got lost in the tropes he felt forced into, and it's hard to make a good film when you're mainly focused on recapturing lightning in a bottle that made your first film so unique in the first place.
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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe *SPOILERS* 2
« Reply #1128 on: March 06, 2018, 12:55:26 PM »
My only beef with GOTG 2 was how Nebula just needed a hug to make things all better.  And the Sovereign... they were annoying as hell - but served their purpose.
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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe *SPOILERS* 2
« Reply #1129 on: March 06, 2018, 01:19:14 PM »
Dude, bosk, relax. Nobody's piling on or attacking you. Chill man  :lol

Huh?

I mean, I was going to pile on him, but in a very different way.

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« Reply #1130 on: March 06, 2018, 03:59:48 PM »
Dude, bosk, relax. Nobody's piling on or attacking you. Chill man  :lol

Huh?

I mean, I was going to pile on him, but in a very different way.

Me to.  Time to make an Adami sandwich.

Adami, you jacked and pumped for the new Deadpool movie?
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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe *SPOILERS* 2
« Reply #1131 on: March 06, 2018, 05:10:03 PM »
Dude, bosk, relax. Nobody's piling on or attacking you. Chill man  :lol

Huh?

I mean, I was going to pile on him, but in a very different way.

Me to.  Time to make an Adami sandwich.

Adami, you jacked and pumped for the new Deadpool movie?

Oh man, there is so much to be pumped about.

Deadpool 2, Infinity War, JJ season 2, Luke Cage season 2, Daredevil season 3. Too damn much!
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« Reply #1132 on: March 07, 2018, 04:39:28 AM »
It does seem a bit much, one right after the other.
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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe *SPOILERS* 2
« Reply #1134 on: March 08, 2018, 03:22:21 PM »
Okay, who's ready to binge watch Jessica Jones tonight! *raises hand*
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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe *SPOILERS* 2
« Reply #1135 on: March 08, 2018, 03:24:26 PM »
meh
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« Reply #1136 on: March 08, 2018, 03:26:57 PM »
I wasn't expecting that response and literally laughed out loud! I suppose we can't all like it.
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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe *SPOILERS* 2
« Reply #1137 on: March 08, 2018, 03:33:51 PM »
Well, I was thinking about it, actually.  But I checked, and I already have "get punched in the face repeatedly by my neighbor" on the calendar for tonight.  So while it's a close call as to which I'd rather do, my current appointment ever so slightly edges out JJ.
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« Reply #1138 on: March 08, 2018, 03:36:29 PM »
 :rollin

Okay, okay, I get it.
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« Reply #1139 on: March 08, 2018, 03:38:39 PM »
Just kidding.  But I never even tried watching season 1, so I'm not jumping in.  If I have time to go back and do season 1 at some point, I will.
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« Reply #1140 on: March 08, 2018, 03:42:46 PM »
Season 1 of JJ is my favorite Marvel show ever. For my money it beats all the movies (including Deadpool) and all the other properties.
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« Reply #1141 on: March 08, 2018, 03:47:30 PM »
Well, I legitimately thought Deadpool sucked, so that isn't a very good comparison for my tastes.  But overall point taken.
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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe *SPOILERS* 2
« Reply #1142 on: March 08, 2018, 03:50:01 PM »
....alright.


So apparently Thanos will have very different motivation for the Infinity War movie. I'll put it in small print in case anyone considers it a spoiler.



So apparently instead of wanting to impress lady death, he wants to kill half the universe to save the other half for some reason.
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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe *SPOILERS* 2
« Reply #1143 on: March 08, 2018, 04:30:17 PM »
Well, I legitimately thought Deadpool sucked, so that isn't a very good comparison for my tastes.  But overall point taken.

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« Reply #1144 on: March 08, 2018, 04:53:46 PM »
Digging into Ep1 now, I'd put JJ at a very close 3rd in the Netflix series right behing DD1 and Punisher, very close, I thought all three were excellent.

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« Reply #1145 on: March 08, 2018, 05:48:33 PM »
Yo, Deadpool rocks until the final showdown, although that has its moments too (when he spells out Francis... lol). Tell me you at least laughed, bosk!
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« Reply #1146 on: March 09, 2018, 01:44:56 AM »
....alright.


So apparently Thanos will have very different motivation for the Infinity War movie. I'll put it in small print in case anyone considers it a spoiler.



So apparently instead of wanting to impress lady death, he wants to kill half the universe to save the other half for some reason.

I am fine with that.

If done right, it can make for a much more interesting villain in my opinion, possibly with an ethical dilemma for both the heroes and Thanos? I never liked the plot of Thanos wanting to impress the personification of death, which also would be hard to translate to film and introduce as a concept now. Usually the villains that stick the  most with audiences have something to say or at least a somewhat relatable origin/purpose.

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« Reply #1147 on: March 09, 2018, 04:52:04 AM »
Hmm the first 3 episodes of JJ2 have been a real slog, hope it improves.

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« Reply #1148 on: March 09, 2018, 05:55:06 AM »
Hmm the first 3 episodes of JJ2 have been a real slog, hope it improves.

Really? Wow, I've thought they were great. A nice mystery that is relevant to our hero herself. Good acting. Each episode is chock full of excellently snide comments from Jessica, which crack me up. A very human and nasty antagonist in Chen. I'm happy so far.
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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe *SPOILERS* 2
« Reply #1149 on: March 09, 2018, 06:29:27 AM »
....alright.


So apparently Thanos will have very different motivation for the Infinity War movie. I'll put it in small print in case anyone considers it a spoiler.



So apparently instead of wanting to impress lady death, he wants to kill half the universe to save the other half for some reason.

I am fine with that.

If done right, it can make for a much more interesting villain in my opinion, possibly with an ethical dilemma for both the heroes and Thanos? I never liked the plot of Thanos wanting to impress the personification of death, which also would be hard to translate to film and introduce as a concept now. Usually the villains that stick the  most with audiences have something to say or at least a somewhat relatable origin/purpose.

I'm fine with it too.  His motivation in the comics seems somewhat shallow, and as we know, character depth makes for a good (or bad when there is lack of it) villain.  The worst villains had very shallow purpose to their villainous plans (Vanko, Malekith, Killian etc...)
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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe *SPOILERS* 2
« Reply #1150 on: March 09, 2018, 08:01:41 AM »
....alright.


So apparently Thanos will have very different motivation for the Infinity War movie. I'll put it in small print in case anyone considers it a spoiler.



So apparently instead of wanting to impress lady death, he wants to kill half the universe to save the other half for some reason.

I am fine with that.

If done right, it can make for a much more interesting villain in my opinion, possibly with an ethical dilemma for both the heroes and Thanos? I never liked the plot of Thanos wanting to impress the personification of death, which also would be hard to translate to film and introduce as a concept now. Usually the villains that stick the  most with audiences have something to say or at least a somewhat relatable origin/purpose.

I'm fine with it too.  His motivation in the comics seems somewhat shallow, and as we know, character depth makes for a good (or bad when there is lack of it) villain.  The worst villains had very shallow purpose to their villainous plans (Vanko, Malekith, Killian etc...)

Also, I think it's consistent with the comics in that this was his original motivation when Thanos was first conceived. The other (more famous) motivation came later in his history (if I remember correctly).
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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe *SPOILERS* 2
« Reply #1151 on: March 09, 2018, 09:09:43 AM »
He also gets mad at the drop of a hat in the comics.

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« Reply #1152 on: March 09, 2018, 10:20:32 AM »
Well, yeah.  But if we're all being honest, can any of us say with a straight face that we haven't said those exact words to some chick and some point in time?
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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe *SPOILERS* 2
« Reply #1153 on: March 09, 2018, 09:30:50 PM »
At Ep7 of S2, enjoying it though not as much as S1, I think it's just missing that epic villain, though they could never outdo Killgrave, he was just too perfect. One thing I will admit to is Jessica is the master of the bitter alcoholic one liners, she drops a few every episode and they're all just perfect.



Edit- Just finished Ep7...outstanding episode, really hit that gritty vibe that makes the Netflix Marvel brand stand out for me from the rest of their output. So well done.
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Re: Marvel's Movie/TV Universe *SPOILERS* 2
« Reply #1154 on: March 10, 2018, 07:51:12 AM »
Just saw Black Panther. Wow. Need to see it again. 
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