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Re: Star Trek: Thread Space 9
« Reply #70 on: September 23, 2016, 01:19:28 AM »
I think I will skip straight ahead to "All Good Things".
Despite what some people may say, there is some good stuff in season 7. I like the Gambit two parter, Parallels, The Pegasus, and Lower Decks are all legitimately great episodes, Genesis is dumb, bonkers silliness but I still kinda enjoy it, and I also remember liking Preemptive Strike a lot, but I don't know if it was because the episode was actually good or if it was just that Michelle Forbes was in it.

But, yeah, there're also quite a few bad episodes in season 7. At the very least skip Masks (gimmicky), Sub Rosa (just... bad), Emergence (just about the most boring holodeck episode ever), and maybe Liaisons (just a dumb episode). Interface is also almost universally reviled but I think it's just passably dull and not offensively like the above episodes or much of season one.


Masks and Interface are REALLY bad episodes, but neither of them can hold a candle to Sub Rosa.

I see what you did there  ;D

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Re: Star Trek: Thread Space 9
« Reply #71 on: September 24, 2016, 02:52:15 PM »
" Friendship 1 "

I like how the tricorders sound the exact same as they did in The Wrath Of Khan.

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« Reply #72 on: September 24, 2016, 09:47:00 PM »
I think I will skip straight ahead to "All Good Things".
Despite what some people may say, there is some good stuff in season 7. I like the Gambit two parter, Parallels, The Pegasus, and Lower Decks are all legitimately great episodes, Genesis is dumb, bonkers silliness but I still kinda enjoy it, and I also remember liking Preemptive Strike a lot, but I don't know if it was because the episode was actually good or if it was just that Michelle Forbes was in it.

But, yeah, there're also quite a few bad episodes in season 7. At the very least skip Masks (gimmicky), Sub Rosa (just... bad), Emergence (just about the most boring holodeck episode ever), and maybe Liaisons (just a dumb episode). Interface is also almost universally reviled but I think it's just passably dull and not offensively like the above episodes or much of season one.


Masks and Interface are REALLY bad episodes, but neither of them can hold a candle to Sub Rosa.

I see what you did there  ;D
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« Reply #73 on: September 24, 2016, 09:48:40 PM »
I assume they're having some private time together.
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« Reply #74 on: September 24, 2016, 09:56:40 PM »
" Friendship 1 "

I like how the tricorders sound the exact same as they did in The Wrath Of Khan.

I like that episode. Quite bleak by Star Trek standards, aside from fixing up the planet at the end.
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Re: Star Trek: Thread Space 9
« Reply #75 on: September 25, 2016, 05:33:35 PM »
" Workforce "

Ehhh. Not the most exciting or gripping two parter.

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« Reply #76 on: September 25, 2016, 05:40:31 PM »
" Workforce "

Ehhh. Not the most exciting or gripping two parter.

That the one where they are convinced they are workers underground and what not?

Stargate SG-1 has an identical episode. It's so strange.


Woah, just checked, turns out SG-1 did it first. I did not realize that.
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Re: Star Trek: Thread Space 9
« Reply #77 on: September 25, 2016, 05:47:37 PM »
Robert Picardo is 100% the best thing about Voyager. Him and Seven.

Picardo is hilarious.

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« Reply #78 on: September 25, 2016, 05:50:18 PM »
Robert Picardo is 100% the best thing about Voyager. Him and Seven.

Picardo is hilarious.

Also on Stargate, but as a total douche (at first, eventually actually leads one of the shows, which is totally weird).

And yes, I love that man. It's nice when bald dudes such as myself have a guy like him and Picard to look up to.
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Re: Star Trek: Thread Space 9
« Reply #79 on: September 25, 2016, 05:51:06 PM »
I love him in Innerspace too.

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« Reply #80 on: September 25, 2016, 05:52:04 PM »
I love him in everything.

There you go.
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Re: Star Trek: Thread Space 9
« Reply #81 on: September 25, 2016, 05:53:53 PM »
Johnny Cab ;)

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Re: Star Trek: Thread Space 9
« Reply #82 on: September 25, 2016, 10:16:07 PM »
Descent is decent.

No, it's pretty bad. Maybe it's just the 2nd half being awful, but the entire premise was just really bad. Lore was such a waste of a potentially great character, and it really helped neuter the Borg.
Beaming the entire damn crew down to the planet, save for Crusher and a handful of scrubs has to be Picard's dumbest moment as captain.


It was really not good whenever Spiner played any character that wasn't Data.
Most of the actors were exposed when asked to do things outside their primary characters. The mirror episodes of DS9 are the best examples. Dorn and Spiner are probably the worst in this regard. Avery Brooks plays everything so over the top when he's not Sisko he ruins what should be some great episodes.


" Friendship 1 "
I like how the tricorders sound the exact same as they did in The Wrath Of Khan.
I like that episode. Quite bleak by Star Trek standards, aside from fixing up the planet at the end.
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Re: Star Trek: Thread Space 9
« Reply #83 on: September 25, 2016, 11:19:04 PM »
" Workforce "

Ehhh. Not the most exciting or gripping two parter.

That the one where they are convinced they are workers underground and what not?

Stargate SG-1 has an identical episode. It's so strange.


Woah, just checked, turns out SG-1 did it first. I did not realize that.

SG-1 did it better too. :biggrin: I don't even remember that much about the Voyager episode, or how it warranted being a double episode.

And yes, I love that man. It's nice when bald dudes such as myself have a guy like him and Picard to look up to.

I've already proclaimed that if I'm ever balding, I'm going to rock the Picard. Or probably more accurately, the Sisko, with the goatee.
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Re: Star Trek: Thread Space 9
« Reply #84 on: September 26, 2016, 01:07:18 AM »
No plans of rocking a Devin Townsend tribute skullet, at least for a while? :xbones

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« Reply #85 on: September 26, 2016, 01:54:25 AM »
"Avery Brooks plays everything so over the top when he's not Sisko he ruins what should be some great."

"Our Man Bashir" when Brooks is playing the villain........dear God.

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Re: Star Trek: Thread Space 9
« Reply #86 on: September 26, 2016, 08:39:43 AM »
"Avery Brooks plays everything so over the top when he's not Sisko he ruins what should be some great."

"Our Man Bashir" when Brooks is playing the villain........dear God.
At least Bond villains are supposed to be eccentric. I was thinking of Far Beyond the Stars. Whole lot of bad acting in that one.
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Re: Star Trek: Thread Space 9
« Reply #87 on: September 26, 2016, 08:59:58 AM »
Watched "All Good Things" and the retrospective episode "Journey's End", and started Star Trek: First Contact.  After that, I will call it a day with STTNG.

After a short break from Trek I will start Deep Space Nine.
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Re: Star Trek: Thread Space 9
« Reply #88 on: September 26, 2016, 09:19:35 AM »
Watched "All Good Things" and the retrospective episode "Journey's End", and started Star Trek: First Contact.  After that, I will call it a day with STTNG.

After a short break from Trek I will start Deep Space Nine.
So did you find Decent as a whole as bad as the rest of us? And did you cover all of S7?
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« Reply #89 on: September 26, 2016, 10:05:03 AM »
Watched "All Good Things" and the retrospective episode "Journey's End", and started Star Trek: First Contact.  After that, I will call it a day with STTNG.

After a short break from Trek I will start Deep Space Nine.
So did you find Decent as a whole as bad as the rest of us? And did you cover all of S7?
"Descent" was not good, although (as is the norm) Pt. 1 was better than Pt. 2.

And no, I didn't cover all of Season 7.  I love Trek, but I was getting eager to move on, especially since this was basically review - I watched most of TNG when it originally aired.

Which is not the case with most of Deep Space Nine or most of Voyager, both of which I intend to watch in total.
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Re: Star Trek: Thread Space 9
« Reply #90 on: September 26, 2016, 10:06:46 AM »
I've almost finished my binge watch of all of Voyager.

I've got 4 eps left of season 7 then I need to go back and watch all the eps I skipped which were largely Klingon centric episodes. Le Yawn. My least favourite.

Just grunting animalistic aliens always fighting and whinging about honour.

So dull.



After i've finished Voyager - i'm gonna start Enterprise as it's only 4 seasons and then i'll finally watch all of DS9.


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« Reply #91 on: September 26, 2016, 10:11:28 AM »
I had no interest in Enterprise when it originally aired, and I still have no interest in watching it.
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Re: Star Trek: Thread Space 9
« Reply #92 on: September 26, 2016, 10:13:20 AM »
Good for you tiger.   :tup

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« Reply #93 on: September 26, 2016, 10:16:54 AM »
I had no interest in Enterprise when it originally aired, and I still have no interest in watching it.

Not that it needed to be said, but you're not missing much. For me that was more of a "I've run out of good Star Trek to watch" kind of show. :lol
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Re: Star Trek: Thread Space 9
« Reply #94 on: September 26, 2016, 10:21:19 AM »
Meh it's only 4 seasons so i'll give it a shot. I might like it.

OR i'll get tired of the exact same tropes they used to death on Voyager.

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« Reply #95 on: September 26, 2016, 10:23:56 AM »
Enterprise has a lot of rehash of Voyager, and other Trek. S3/4 is when they changed and tried to do their own thing to varying degrees of success.
I'd still recommend watching the last episode of S2 followed by all of S3 (and maybe the opening of S4 for closure), then maybe In a Mirror Darkly from S4.
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Re: Star Trek: Thread Space 9
« Reply #96 on: September 26, 2016, 10:25:53 AM »
I watch like 4/5 eps a night easily. It won't take long to get thru the first 2 series.

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Re: Star Trek: Thread Space 9
« Reply #97 on: September 26, 2016, 10:28:04 AM »
At least they won't be able to do any holodeck episodes where they go to a bar in the 1940s


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« Reply #98 on: September 26, 2016, 10:29:03 AM »
Holodeck episodes are the least of Enterprise's worries. :lol
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Re: Star Trek: Thread Space 9
« Reply #99 on: September 26, 2016, 10:32:47 AM »
...But no Sandrines ? :neverusethis:


By the end of Voyager season 2 i was like FUCKING SANDRINES AGAIN FOR FUCKS SAKE

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« Reply #100 on: September 26, 2016, 12:55:42 PM »
Finally finished S1 of Enterprise. It was ok, just, but there were an awful lot of filler episodes, and nothing to make me want to watch more than one episode at a sitting.

I wasn't keen on the Sulaban (sp?) as the recurring enemy - again, just ok. I didn't really get a sense of danger from any of the episodes - you just knew that whatever scrapes they got themselves into would be neatly resolved in the last 5 minutes of the episode.  ::)

Reid is probably the most annoying of all the crew characters. Not sure what his purpose is.

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« Reply #101 on: September 26, 2016, 01:26:29 PM »
I love the EMG on Voyager. He's always smiling  :laugh: :laugh:

You just love him and hope nothing bad ever happens to him.

Same with Neelix. I don't find either of them irritating. Not like Kes or Deanna.

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« Reply #102 on: September 26, 2016, 01:30:04 PM »
I love the EMG on Voyager. He's always smiling  :laugh: :laugh:

You just love him and hope nothing bad ever happens to him.

Same with Neelix. I don't find either of them irritating. Not like Kes or Deanna.
When I originally watched Season 1 of Voyager, Neelix was a big reason that I stopped watching.
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Re: Star Trek: Thread Space 9
« Reply #103 on: September 26, 2016, 01:31:09 PM »
He gets a lot less annoying.

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Re: Star Trek: Thread Space 9
« Reply #104 on: September 26, 2016, 01:32:19 PM »
Voyager " Author, Author "

:rollin When fake Tom Paris has a moustache for no reason.