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Re: Star Trek: Thread Space 9
« Reply #875 on: March 20, 2017, 08:29:24 PM »
I totally recognize how attractive Jerri is, but she was just never the type I was really into.

If I had to pick a full time cast member of any of the STs (as opposed to guest stars) I'd have to pick Ezri Dax. Mmmmmm.

This. Shame it was only a single season.
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« Reply #876 on: March 20, 2017, 09:24:34 PM »
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/industry-studios-the-first-fan-funded-movie-studio-film#/

Alec Peters is at it again, folks !
I realize that every thing he does for the rest of his life is pure evil, but what specifically about this is a problem? He's not ripping off CBS from on high. He states very clearly that there is no guarantee this will be profitable. He lays out how the money is to be spent and the accounting to guarantee it. Don't like it? Don't give him any money. Seems pretty reasonable to me.
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« Reply #877 on: March 20, 2017, 09:26:53 PM »
Oh, and of the regular ST gals, I'd probably have to go with Ezri, as well. It is kind of surprising that she's the best choice, though.
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« Reply #878 on: March 20, 2017, 09:28:59 PM »
2nd choice would probably be a tie between Soto and movie era Troi.
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Re: Star Trek: Thread Space 9
« Reply #879 on: March 20, 2017, 10:23:01 PM »
Watching Voyager. Into.. season 4? when Seven shows up. My other half asked me if I ever noticed that you can see her nipples. I responded with "no shit. I've been staring at them for almost 20 years" :lol

I forget how much of a crush I have on Jerri Ryan until every time I rewatch ST:V.

That first silver outfit with the ribbing and nipples was pretty blatant. I preferred it once they switched to the slightly more subtle suit after that.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/industry-studios-the-first-fan-funded-movie-studio-film#/

Alec Peters is at it again, folks !

At first I was like "this is fine, he's actually funding an original project now", but then I read it. He's still skirting the rules to siphon money off the ignorant rubes who still support him, and essentially for nothing at this stage. He should still have had the money to cover these costs. And of course it's flexible goal so he gets people's money regardless.

2nd choice would probably be a tie between Soto and movie era Troi.

Jeff Scott Soto isn't that good looking.

Didn't think much of Ezri, mostly because of the awful haircut.
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« Reply #880 on: March 20, 2017, 10:43:09 PM »
Sato, whateva.


And her haircut was sexy as hell. I love short hair.
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« Reply #881 on: March 20, 2017, 10:50:37 PM »
Season 2 Troi then Sato for me. Hard to go wrong, though.
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« Reply #882 on: March 21, 2017, 02:52:11 AM »
Ezri was a female Wesley.

Jadzia all the way. 
Vash was pretty hot too.

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« Reply #883 on: March 23, 2017, 01:31:38 PM »
- We all love a ranking here on DTF -

Rank the Enterprise through the years !!

Here are your choices :


1. Constitution I Class TOS Enterprise

2. Constitution II TOS Movies Enterprise

3. Enterprise B from Star Trek Generations

4. Enterprise C from Yesterday's Enterprise

5. Enterprise D from The Next Generation

6. Enterprise E from Star Trek First Contact - Nemesis

7. Kelvin Universe Enterprise

8. Kelvin Universe Enterprise from Star Trek Beyond

pic - http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schematics/alt-enterprise-a-screen1-stb.jpg

9. NX - 01 from Star Trek Enterprise.

10. Any i've forgotten about. Enterprise J from Enterprise. Enterprise F from the Star Trek Online Video Game.


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« Reply #884 on: March 23, 2017, 01:36:59 PM »
Here's mine...

1. Enterprise from TOS movies. Classy and classic. Perfectly proportioned and sleek.

2. Enterprise E

3. Enterprise D

4. Kelvin Enterprises ( both ) - I like them. Shoot me.

5. NX - 01

6. TOS Enterprise - I know it started everythign but i've never like how it's essentially three cylinders and two completely straight pylons. It's not a flying saucer with rockets though.

7. Enterprise B

8. Enterprise C



Enterprise F is ok I guess. Looks like a Fat Voyager. And there's not enough on Ent. J to judge. Supposed to be a mile long though ?
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« Reply #885 on: March 24, 2017, 07:13:31 AM »
Sato, whateva.


And her haircut was sexy as hell. I love short hair.

WTF dude, are you me?

I always thought I was the only one into Ezri Dax.
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« Reply #886 on: March 24, 2017, 09:35:50 AM »
Sato, whateva.


And her haircut was sexy as hell. I love short hair.

WTF dude, are you me?


Yes.
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« Reply #887 on: March 24, 2017, 12:56:05 PM »
...never mind.





I'm starting to watch Enterprise from the beginning. I've never watched it all the way through. Already don't like T'Pol. Apart from Tuvok - all Vulcans are portrayed as bitchy

sassy back-talking arrogant dicks. All of them. Tuvok is the closest i've seen to Spock i've ever seen anyone play a Vulcan.
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« Reply #888 on: March 24, 2017, 01:50:31 PM »
...never mind.





I'm starting to watch Enterprise from the beginning. I've never watched it all the way through. Already don't like T'Pol. Apart from Tuvok - all Vulcans are portrayed as bitchy

sassy back-talking arrogant dicks. All of them. Tuvok is the closest i've seen to Spock i've ever seen anyone play a Vulcan.
About 6 episodes into season 2, myself. It was better than the credit it gets. A couple of the episodes sucked, but some of them were pretty good, and most of them were perfectly decent.

T'Pol was eye-candy and little more. I will say that as ENT goes forward Soval becomes quite a bit better. He was obligated to be a dick early on, but he does develop some respect for the humans, and becomes a bit more respectable from his dealings with Shran and the Andorians. And as I mentioned earlier in one of these threads, Tuvok was probably the best Vulcan they had, from a pure Vulcan standpoint.
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Re: Star Trek: Thread Space 9
« Reply #889 on: March 24, 2017, 11:48:34 PM »
I didn't like T'Pol's look so much in the first two seasons. That glitter potato sack she wore wasn't too flattering, and the wig and eyebrows were a bit off. They sorted it out by S3 though, where she looked very nice. The more styled outfits with some colour, and the better wig/makeup made a huge difference. It wasn't Blalock's fault, but Vulcans were not designed with beauty in mind. :lol

I found a lot of Star Trek portrayed Vulcans wrong, especially Enterprise and DS9. Exactly as Kotow described them.
It takes a lot of subtlety to play a Vulcan character well, which is why I think most of the guest stars didn't get it right. Spock, Sarek and Tuvok all nailed it. Soval was pretty good overall too from what I recall.
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« Reply #890 on: March 25, 2017, 02:20:25 AM »
I just watched the ENT episode with the comet in S1. With Vulcan captain Vanik.

That dinner scene is the worst. You really feel Archer's frustration.

But ENT was probably trying to show that human - Vulcan relations were tense in the beginning.


However it would never be "logical" to be so dismissive and unhelpful to others.
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« Reply #891 on: March 25, 2017, 01:11:02 PM »
Ha that one episode of ENT where Archer basically goes " One day Starfleet might have some kind of Directive about interfering with other cultures..."

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« Reply #892 on: March 25, 2017, 05:48:22 PM »
I wonder if the lack of good Vulcans might be due to the fact that there isn't much source to draw from? At most, there are only a few around at a time in any given series. The most that we ever see of them is in the final series that was kind of doomed to begin with.
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« Reply #893 on: March 25, 2017, 05:54:52 PM »
Aside from Mark Lenard, Leonard Nimoy and Tim Russ...Most people play a Vulcan as egotistical holier-than-thou interfering and back-talking.

Their lack-of-emotion is portrayed as only negative. It seems like Tim Russ basically copied Nimoy for Tuvok.
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« Reply #894 on: March 25, 2017, 05:59:32 PM »
Aside from Mark Lenard, Leonard Nimoy and Tim Russ...Most people play a Vulcan as egotistical holier-than-thou interfering and back-talking.

Their lack-of-emotion is portrayed as only negative. It seems like Tim Russ basically copied Nimoy for Tuvok.

I agree, but I wonder if that's simply what they were told to do? What you're describing is a major story element of ENT. Maybe they weren't given much leeway? Other than the episode where they run into the group of "rebel" Vulcans...mind meld ect. ect...
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« Reply #895 on: March 25, 2017, 07:35:24 PM »
Aside from Mark Lenard, Leonard Nimoy and Tim Russ...Most people play a Vulcan as egotistical holier-than-thou interfering and back-talking.

Their lack-of-emotion is portrayed as only negative. It seems like Tim Russ basically copied Nimoy for Tuvok.

Tim Russ nailed the Vulcan manner quite nicely, the Vulcan-According-to-Spock style.  Tuvok is great, probably my favorite character from Voyager.

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« Reply #896 on: March 26, 2017, 11:35:12 AM »
I never saw any similarity between Tuvok and Spock. Lacking Spock's human half, Tuvok was never prone to emotional outbursts. Despite being very close with Janeway, he never called her Katherine. He didn't seem to have Spock's super-sharp mind, either. He did have a very real mellowness, though. Something I figured comes from being quite a bit older than Spock, and having a family. Star Fleet seems to be more of a career than a life.

Early in the show Soval's only role is to be an annoying prick and his only adversary is Archer and those pesky humans. As he mellows out towards Archer and begins to have other things to deal with he becomes a much better character, and Vulcan. Enterprise also allows us to see more Vulcans and how they behave in groups. Given their logic, their smarts, their strength and their technology you have to assume they could be the badasses of the galaxy at that pont of time, should they decide to be. I mean, who would want to take on a ship full of Spocks? We get to see some of that in ENT, and for a bunch of pacifists they're pretty quick to resort to violence if that's what the situation dictates, and ruthlessly efficient when that time comes. 
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« Reply #897 on: March 27, 2017, 10:24:28 AM »
Well i'm making my way thru ENT a few eps a day.

But it's not particularly exciting yet. I just sort of have it on and browse the net at the same time.

They seem like weaker Voyager episodes at the moment.

I'll persevere though. I want to have seen every episode of every series one day.

I've seen all of TNG and VOY and most of DS9 and a handful of TOS and ENT.
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« Reply #898 on: March 27, 2017, 10:25:58 AM »
I never saw any similarity between Tuvok and Spock.

Tuvok has Nimoy's calm about him. His retorts are not delivered with the same holier-than-thou attitude that a lot of other Vulcans have...

Especially like Vanik from ENT series 1.

As I said before - being self-righteous and arrogant and deliberately obtuse can never be considered a "logical" way to behave.
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Re: Star Trek: Thread Space 9
« Reply #899 on: March 27, 2017, 10:40:55 AM »
Well i'm making my way thru ENT a few eps a day.

But it's not particularly exciting yet. I just sort of have it on and browse the net at the same time.

They seem like weaker Voyager episodes at the moment.

Expect that trend to continue until S3. S3 and S4 are definitely different.
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« Reply #900 on: March 27, 2017, 10:45:04 AM »
The last time all of trek was on Netflix about 2 years ago I watched a few then too. I enjoyed the Augments episodes.
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Re: Star Trek: Thread Space 9
« Reply #901 on: March 27, 2017, 11:03:03 AM »
I dislike most of S4, except the Mirror universe ones, and maybe the Mars ones with Robocop. Feels too fanwanky to me.
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« Reply #902 on: March 27, 2017, 11:07:07 AM »
inb4 Discovery makes Enterprise look like DS9 :biggrin:


It's set between TOS and ENT isn't it ? Closer to Kirk's time...

So they're gonna have to make it look more advanced than ENT but on par with TOS yet still futuristic to what we have now...


Yet one more reason why the time period makes no logical sense.
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« Reply #903 on: March 27, 2017, 11:08:57 AM »
I think Discovery is setting themselves up to suffer all of the same continuity issues of Enterprise, even worse due to now being between Enterprise and TOS. Also, it appears to be borrowing a lot from Enterprise, and almost nothing from TOS that I can see, when it's only supposed to be a decade or so out from TOS.
I'll reiterate yet again that it would have made much more sense to just continue in realtime since Voyager/Nemesis, and do whatever the hell they want.
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« Reply #904 on: March 27, 2017, 11:13:35 AM »
It's a total head scratcher.

Set after Nemesis = any cast member from previous shows can be in it ( pretty much )...

Also no continuity problems.

And you can pretty much do what you want.

AND have no tech issues as you can make it all up if it's say 15 years since Nemesis happened.
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« Reply #905 on: March 27, 2017, 11:16:42 AM »
I understand the thought process (or at least what I imagine it might be)

1) They assume people only care about ToS ST, including the new movies, so keep it around that timeline.
2) They are going to keep making movies, and who knows where those will go, so setting it later on in that time line boxes in the potential movies.
3) ??????
4) Profit.



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« Reply #906 on: March 27, 2017, 11:17:03 AM »
I don't know if their thought was to go for nostalgia with the era, but it doesn't seem to capitalize on that either. It bears no resemblance. I don't get what they're going for. Maybe the reveal of the premise will make it clearer.
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« Reply #907 on: March 27, 2017, 11:18:22 AM »
If you set it in deep deep deep space - 10s of light years from Federation space it makes a little more sense...

But it's gonna be basically TOS with a new crew.
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« Reply #908 on: March 27, 2017, 04:10:35 PM »
ENT : Acquisition.

Unmistakably Clint Howard and Ethan Philips under all the Ferengi makeup.

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« Reply #909 on: March 27, 2017, 04:20:38 PM »
I just had a thought.

I know most people don't think too highly of Generations, and I know Kotowboy hates it with an intense passion, but it gave us one of my favorite movie lines ever.

Time is the fire in which we burn. Ugh, I love it so much.


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