Our New World (feat. Lzzy Hale)

[Adami]

I'm not negative about it. I just think it was a silly way to get new fans. I want them to have all the fans. I just can't see bringing in much.

[Ben_Jamin]

Me too...

It's just the song would've worked fine as is...

But...I just now realized. It's mainly to showcase Lzzy's vocals  as its main factor.

[Prog Snob]

I agree with Petfish...again. I rather enjoyed it.

[Rickharris1011]

I liked it.  I really like her voice and it definitely adds something to the song.  It was always a good song, but could be a bit repetitive - she gives it more dynamic.

That being said I think I would have liked it more if I hadn't heard the original version.  I actually think the snipping was well done, but I can't help but hear the original solos...so it's jarring to me.  I found the radio edits for PMU and Misunderstood much more enjoyable, because they were my first introduction to the song (imagine my joy when I discovered the extra parts on the album! - well except the extended backwards guitar solo - but that's a subject for another thread another day)

[Zook]

Why do people hate edits so much?  Isn't the whole point to make a song more digestible for people who aren't familiar with the band?  Don't we want more success for Dream Theater?

TL;DR - Edits are a great way to introduce new people to music.

Some edits aren't bad, but every Dream Theater song edit is choppy and beyond amateurish.

[bosk1]

I agree with the comments about the edit being a bit jarring.  But I only just heard it for the first time this morning after having read the thread all the way through up to this point, so I was prepared going in.  And despite that jarring feeling from knowing what was supposed to be in certain parts and not having those be there, I thought it was actually a pretty good edit.  The solo, for example, despite having some really cool parts removed, still had enough of its structure and highlights that it felt very true to the original.  All in all, I liked it.

[Shooters1221]

I'm curious about why they did this, I mean, I do like the version. They could have just kept the song as a whole, I don't think editing it was needed, but I just don't understand the point and why they did this. Like I said though, I do like the vocals indeed!

[dtvoices94]

I love the song but this version is pointless.  It sounds like Lizzy Hale heard the song once and took a shot at it.  Plus the song itself is barely 4 minutes so the edit is unnecessary.  Hearing this once was enough for me. 
On the other hand, if it gets people to check out DT then it's a win.

[Kotowboy]

It's a win whatever.

If it gets the bank more exposure - good.

If DT fans don't like this version - the album version still exists - good.



It kinda reminds me of when a band would release an album track as a single but they'd completely re-record it.

then you'd have two versions of the song.

[hefdaddy42]

Yeah, there is no downside to this.

[TAC]

I prefer the girl in Chego's band from the other thread.

[Ben_Jamin]

It's a win whatever.

If it gets the bank more exposure - good.

If DT fans don't like this version - the album version still exists - good.



It kinda reminds me of when a band would release an album track as a single but they'd completely re-record it.

then you'd have two versions of the song.

dont you hate the album though?

[Enigmachine]

dont you hate the album though?

IIRC Kotow loved TA.

[Kotowboy]

When have I ever said I hated The Astonishing ?

I don't think I even *hate* any DT album. I'm not keen on the snare sound on DT12 but that's about it ?

The only DT album I find really over rated is Awake...

[Prog Snob]

I prefer the girl in Chego's band from the other thread.

I concur. She was something else.

[PetFish]

I'm curious about why they did this, I mean, I do like the version. They could have just kept the song as a whole, I don't think editing it was needed, but I just don't understand the point and why they did this. Like I said though, I do like the vocals indeed!

Edits are a great way to take longer/complex songs and making them easier to check out for potential fans.  It's a pretty basic concept that's been around forever.

We only notice it cuz we know the music, but imagine someone who's never heard Dream Theater before and they hear this for the first time and think it's amazing.  Then they check out the real track and it's even better (usually).  We superfans need to step out of ourselves for a moment and try and see what it's like for new listeners.

That's the point of any edit and that's why they did this... to expose their music to new fans.  It's a great thing.

[Chino]

I'm curious about why they did this, I mean, I do like the version. They could have just kept the song as a whole, I don't think editing it was needed, but I just don't understand the point and why they did this. Like I said though, I do like the vocals indeed!

I'm hoping it's a tease indicating that when they film this for a dvd/bluray where's that announcement), James will not be singing the female parts.

[Architeuthis]

I really hope this gets airplay on all the Rock stations in the U.S.   I bet it would be a hit! It is short enough for a good radio edit, and James and Lzzy's vocals really compliment each other. I love it!
It would be a crime for it not to get airplay..

[Architeuthis]

I actually think Dream Theater and Halestorm would make a cool co-headline tour, at least here in the states. They could share the stage together for the encore kind of like the DT/Queensryche tour.

[TAC]

  They could share the stage together for the encore kind of like the DT/Queensryche tour.

I always thought that was kinda corny.

[Zook]

I'm curious about why they did this, I mean, I do like the version. They could have just kept the song as a whole, I don't think editing it was needed, but I just don't understand the point and why they did this. Like I said though, I do like the vocals indeed!

We only notice it cuz we know the music, but imagine someone who's never heard Dream Theater before and they hear this for the first time and think it's amazing.  Then they check out the real track and it's even better (usually).  We superfans need to step out of ourselves for a moment and try and see what it's like for new listeners.

Yes, but normally edits aren't this choppy. I know it's harder because Dream Theater songs are just harder to edit than other bands, but I'd imagine if I'd just discovered this edit I loved it, and bought it and listened to it with headphones, I'd noticed it was edited pretty quick. Once you really pay attention to the music, it shouldn't be hard. I'm referring mainly to the cut at the second verse. The other cuts sound alright, but this one is horrible. I tried to do it myself, and it just can't be done. Too much instrument bleeding. It would have been better to just leave the little solo. It's nice and happy, and shouldn't challenge anyone's attention spans.

[?]

I don't find this edit any choppier than the video versions of PMU, TTT or Constant Motion. I'm not a fan of edited versions in general, but if the band gets more airplay as a result, more power to them. It's not like the album version has suddenly ceased to exist and you can never listen to it anymore.

As for Lzzy's vocals, I haven't heard much Halestorm so I didn't expect such rock-y singing. I like her voice though, and the choruses sound pretty epic. However, I wish they'd re-recorded James' vocals or at least remixed the song so her voice would sit better in the mix.

[Prog Snob]

I don't find this edit any choppier than the video versions of PMU, TTT or Constant Motion. I'm not a fan of edited versions in general, but if the band gets more airplay as a result, more power to them. It's not like the album version has suddenly ceased to exist and you can never listen to it anymore.

Don't forget Home. That was really bad.

[Shooters1221]

I'm curious about why they did this, I mean, I do like the version. They could have just kept the song as a whole, I don't think editing it was needed, but I just don't understand the point and why they did this. Like I said though, I do like the vocals indeed!

Edits are a great way to take longer/complex songs and making them easier to check out for potential fans.  It's a pretty basic concept that's been around forever.

We only notice it cuz we know the music, but imagine someone who's never heard Dream Theater before and they hear this for the first time and think it's amazing.  Then they check out the real track and it's even better (usually).  We superfans need to step out of ourselves for a moment and try and see what it's like for new listeners.

That's the point of any edit and that's why they did this... to expose their music to new fans.  It's a great thing.

Yes, I know what editing is, I'm a composer myself. I probably worded it with confusion. My point about the editing was that it is only a 4 minute piece to begin with so it wasn't really that necessary. I was questioning the thought process of making a second version. I wasn't being critical, just curious. I quite like this version and I do see the exposure angle.

[ErHaO]

I really like it! Made me revisit TA again and I still really like the album. But I don't think Hale fits the role of Faythe. But as a standalone rocker about reforming the world, this version works well.

[bhull]

Glad to see DT moving outside the box and trying something new.

She is a good vocalist, but seems too metal for the Faythe we got to know on the album and accompanying art work.  In my mind, I was picturing an Amy Lee type voice for her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rTofvb1xkk

[pcs90]

I saw all your comments and got really excited. Had to  check it out...

Highly disappointed. The mix sounded bad, her voice didn't match the style of the song, and it killed the extremely powerful energy of the track. The song sounded weak, which the original absolutely DOES NOT. Ultimately, I just thought that it didn't fit the song well, but could have VERY well with a full effort. Oh well, maybe next time...

Agreed. Honestly James sounds way  better on it IMO. And the fact that it's shortened is definitely not cool either...

[Ben_Jamin]

So...


Lzzy Hale will be performing Our New World with DT on a Califas date.

Just posted on their Facebook.

[Prog Snob]

So...


Lzzy Hale will be performing Our New World with DT on a Califas date.

Just posted on their Facebook.

I'm assuming you mean California.

[Ben_Jamin]

So...


Lzzy Hale will be performing Our New World with DT on a Califas date.

Just posted on their Facebook.

I'm assuming you mean California.

Yeah. It's the Anaheim show.

Pretty interesting

[hefdaddy42]

Sweet!

[Prog Snob]

See, that's something to make sure I get a bootleg of.

[MirrorMask]

Wicked! Seeing Dream Theater is always a pleasure by itself, if it had happened to me I'd be over the moon to have another singer I like sharing the stage with James! 

[cramx3]

Nice! I love how they are spicing up the end of this tour 

[PetFish]

Awesome!!!!! 

I love Lzzy and love the bite-sized edit that some people I'm trying to convert are really digging also.  Hopefully this will be a sign of things to come with a full cast of characters.  Maybe it's even a test to see how it works in a live situation before they go all-in.

However, it makes me so sad to see the stupid replies and comments from people (not here, on Facebook).  Totally rude and uncalled for in every sense.  It's one thing to say "meh, I don't really like her voice", and that's ok, but to take it beyond that and rip into her, DT, and management and then onto the radio edit, sound production, and catering guy is just so immature and ridiculous.