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Bands whose debut is their worst album ?
« on: September 08, 2016, 03:52:05 AM »
This should be a bit easier...

Bands whose debut is either their worst album or they improved upon dramatically.

First choice is obviously Dream Theater with When Dream & Day Unite.

Far better things were to come.

Ride The Lightning and Master of Puppets are far superior to Kill Em All...

Dookie is a huge step up from 39 Smooth and Kerplunk! and they went on to also release American Idiot.
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Re: Bands whose debut is their worst album ?
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2016, 04:00:12 AM »
Dream Theater, Symphony X, Tool, Isis, Vanden Plas, Anathema
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Re: Bands whose debut is their worst album ?
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2016, 04:28:42 AM »
Tool Undertow definitely.

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Re: Bands whose debut is their worst album ?
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2016, 04:31:34 AM »
I would put Iced Earth on this list.
Musically it's not their absolute worst, but the vocals and production makes it unlistenable for me.
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Re: Bands whose debut is their worst album ?
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2016, 05:12:54 AM »
Alice Cooper - Pretties For You (although I really like the album)
Ark - Ark
Iced Earth - Iced Earth

maybe Leprous

Planet X - Universe (Live From Oz, Moonbabies and Quantum are better)
Porcupine Tree - On The Sunday Of Life
Sleepytime Gorilla Museum - Grand Opening And Closing
Steven Wilson - Insurgentes (maybe controversial)
Symphony X - Symphony X
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Re: Bands whose debut is their worst album ?
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2016, 05:22:56 AM »
Haken, I think they really developed a lot with each album
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Re: Bands whose debut is their worst album ?
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2016, 05:31:42 AM »
Quote from: krands85 on September 08, 2016, 04:00:12 AM
Dream Theater, Symphony X, Tool, Isis, Vanden Plas, Anathema

Color Temple is the bomb, can't agree with that one.
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Re: Bands whose debut is their worst album ?
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2016, 06:16:04 AM »
Avenged Sevenfold is the first band that comes to mind. The addition of Synyster Gates on lead guitar after the recording of Sounding the Seventh Trumpet was monumental. His technical ability, jazz influences, and most importantly his harmonic mastery brought a whole different dimension to the band's sound and took them to the next level. The first album is decent, but the music on Waking the Fallen, City of Evil, their self titled album, Nightmare, and to a lesser extent Hail to the King far exceeds what they accomplished with their debut.
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Re: Bands whose debut is their worst album ?
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2016, 06:44:28 AM »
Symphony X for sure

And "Rocka Rolla" is a good album, but still the weakest from Judas Priest
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Re: Bands whose debut is their worst album ?
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2016, 06:54:27 AM »
The Black Crowes
Anthrax
Faith No More
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Re: Bands whose debut is their worst album ?
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2016, 07:05:49 AM »
as in worst not meaning they are necessarily bad:

Steve Lukather

Genesis

Pink Floyd

Whitesnake

Journey
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Re: Bands whose debut is their worst album ?
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2016, 07:07:19 AM »
Nightwish
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Re: Bands whose debut is their worst album ?
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2016, 08:07:02 AM »
Shadow Gallery
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Re: Bands whose debut is their worst album ?
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2016, 08:14:42 AM »
Symphony X
Trivium
Anathema (I mean, it's not a bad one but it's the one I listen to the less.)
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Re: Bands whose debut is their worst album ?
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2016, 08:33:12 AM »
Quote from: dtvoices94 on September 08, 2016, 06:54:27 AM
The Black Crowes

Really?!?  I know it's been overplayed.  But, SYMM is an absolutely fantastic album.  IMO, that's about as close to a perfect album as they've ever made.

Sorry about that!  Everyone's definitely entitled to their own opinion.  Didn't mean to sh*t on yours.  I've just been on a big Crowes kick right now.  And, I can't get enough of that first album.
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Re: Bands whose debut is their worst album ?
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2016, 08:36:31 AM »
Can't believe this thread has hit 15 posts w/o mention of Radiohead.  I'm not one of those people that hate Pablo Honey, it has its own charm, reflects that era of music well, and it shows flashes of things to come (especially Blow Out)...but it is definitely the weakest thing in their catalog.
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Re: Bands whose debut is their worst album ?
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2016, 10:55:41 AM »
Biffy Clyro
Fair to Midland
Kaddisfly: although Did You Know People Can Fly? is still a good album
Mew: A Triumph of Man is still decent
Porcupine Tree
Pepe Deluxe

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Shadow Gallery

this is my favorite Shadow Gallery release.

Digital Ghosts and Legacy I would put at the bottom of their catalog. Digital Ghosts doesn't even have Mike Baker, lol.

The only issue with the S/T debut album is the drum machine. But from a songwriting standpoint, I find it to be their strongest and most consistent record.
 
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Re: Bands whose debut is their worst album ?
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2016, 11:01:48 AM »
Anathema - Serenades
Beach House - Beach House
Converge - Halo in a Haystack
Cult of Luna - Cult of Luna
Deftones - Adrenaline
Neurosis - Pain of Mind
Porcupine Tree - On the Sunday of Life
Radiohead - Pablo Honey
Thrice - Identity Crisis
Tool - Undertow
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Re: Bands whose debut is their worst album ?
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2016, 11:07:08 AM »
Rush and Porcupine Tree
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Re: Bands whose debut is their worst album ?
« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2016, 11:13:23 AM »
Nirvana. One could argue Incesticide is worse than Bleach (I don't think so) but it's technically a collection of B-sides and not an album. Nevermind and In Utero easily blow Bleach out of the water, though.
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Re: Bands whose debut is their worst album ?
« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2016, 11:18:02 AM »
Quote from: home on September 08, 2016, 05:22:56 AM
Haken, I think they really developed a lot with each album
I listed them in the opposite thread. :lol
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Re: Bands whose debut is their worst album ?
« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2016, 11:44:20 AM »
Quote from: ? on September 08, 2016, 11:07:08 AM
Rush and Porcupine Tree
Absolutely.

Also, Led Zeppelin, Saxon and Van der Graaf Generator. There might be several more, it's not rare that the band's debut is their worst one.
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Re: Bands whose debut is their worst album ?
« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2016, 11:46:11 AM »
I agree about Rush. I could have gone with DT as well, but then TA appeared :P
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Re: Bands whose debut is their worst album ?
« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2016, 11:58:06 AM »
Dream Theater comes to mind first obviously. Rush, too.
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Re: Bands whose debut is their worst album ?
« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2016, 12:06:23 PM »
Quote from: Zydar on September 08, 2016, 11:46:11 AM
I agree about Rush. I could have gone with DT as well, but then TA appeared :P


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I nominate Slipknot. Not that IOWA was light years better by any means but Volume 3 & All Hope Is Gone definitely were.
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Re: Bands whose debut is their worst album ?
« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2016, 12:08:26 PM »
Quote from: cfmoran13 on September 08, 2016, 08:33:12 AM
Quote from: dtvoices94 on September 08, 2016, 06:54:27 AM
The Black Crowes

Really?!?  I know it's been overplayed.  But, SYMM is an absolutely fantastic album.  IMO, that's about as close to a perfect album as they've ever made.

Sorry about that!  Everyone's definitely entitled to their own opinion.  Didn't mean to sh*t on yours.  I've just been on a big Crowes kick right now.  And, I can't get enough of that first album.

The Southern Harmony and Musical Companion or Amorica are my favorites.  The debut is great but they got so much better stylistically on subsequent albums.
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Re: Bands whose debut is their worst album ?
« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2016, 12:09:08 PM »
Pantera- metal magic



alright in its own right, but not my kind of pantera by a long shot
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Re: Bands whose debut is their worst album ?
« Reply #27 on: September 08, 2016, 12:28:46 PM »
Uh, Rush.  No.  Same with Zeppelin.

Totally agree with 'Pretties For You' (wow, that was hard to listen to for the first time when it came out on CD). 

WDADU for DT is what I think of in a similar light as for a band called 'Smile' and their first (and only album).  A change in lead singers worked wonders.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smile_(band)

Worst for an 'artist' might well be Billy Joel.  I have never heard the original version, nor would I want to.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_Spring_Harbor_(album)

"Through an error in the album's mastering, the songs played slightly too fast, causing Joel's voice to sound unnaturally high (one-half of a semitone higher—Joel joked that he sounded more like one of The Chipmunks than himself). According to a long-standing rumor, when Joel first heard the finished product, he "ripped it off the turntable, ran out of the house, and threw [the record] down the street." Arthur "Artie" Ripp, owner of Family Productions and hence the owner of the original master tapes, was responsible for the production error, and the mistake cost him his friendship with Joel."
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Re: Bands whose debut is their worst album ?
« Reply #28 on: September 08, 2016, 12:55:28 PM »
Megadeth

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Re: Bands whose debut is their worst album ?
« Reply #29 on: September 08, 2016, 01:20:55 PM »
I've never heard a Megadeth album.

i can't get on with Mustaine's err..."voice".
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Re: Bands whose debut is their worst album ?
« Reply #30 on: September 08, 2016, 01:39:22 PM »
Understandable.  His voice definitely is not for everyone.
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Re: Bands whose debut is their worst album ?
« Reply #31 on: September 08, 2016, 01:41:05 PM »
I don't think it helped that the first Megadeth song I properly heard was Sweating Bullets.



I *think* I might have listened to United Abominations out of curiosity. . . But again it wasn't for me.


I know that album is not held in very high regard and Gears Of War especially stuck out as poor.
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Re: Bands whose debut is their worst album ?
« Reply #32 on: September 08, 2016, 01:44:52 PM »
Yeah, your exposure has been bottom of the barrel.  :lol  But still, if Mustaine's voice is what put you off, even their best material probably isn't likely to do it for you.
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Re: Bands whose debut is their worst album ?
« Reply #33 on: September 08, 2016, 01:55:10 PM »
I've heard A Tout Le Monde. That was ok.
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Re: Bands whose debut is their worst album ?
« Reply #34 on: September 08, 2016, 02:02:42 PM »
I also disagree with Rush and Led Zeppelin.

The worst Zeppelin album is the last, not the first. ;)
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