That's the most ridiculous I've ever heard. This is a competition where the two main candidates are Trump and Hillary. It seems like you're just making excuses to slight someone for verbally trashing Hillary.
No, it's not ridiculous. Every single previous U.S. presidential elections in living memory had two candidates who were individually defendable without bringing up how bad the other guy is, no matter how bad they were. I could make an argument for any of the Republican nominees for the last 30 years without bringing up how shitty the Democratic nominee is, even W.
I'm not making excuses to slight someone for verbally trashing Hillary, I'm not a Hillary supporter, I've already swayed at least a dozen people in my circles so far to not
vote for her, if I wasn't broke I'd probably be actively campaigning for Johnson.
But it really suck that I have to tell you all that so you'd see that I'm not just bull shitting.
However, if you want to talk about an exercise in futility, try getting a Hillary supporter to admit that she's everything wrong with politics today. They won't. They'll hurl insults at Trump, some of which he probably deserves, but what they're doing is ignoring her behavior in spite of their better judgment.
Yes they do that, but I have met many many more Hillary supporters who tried to talk me into Hillary by discussing her experience and political track record, some with conviction and some circle back to "At least she's not Trump", it's much easier to pinpoint a stereotypical Trump supporter talking points than to do so for a Hillary supporter.
At least in Trump's case, he hasn't been given the chance to fuck up the system yet. Denying Hillary's guilt in any of the scandals she has been involved in just because she wasn't indicted is a clear sign of a misunderstanding of just how the system works. She is perfect to play the politics game. The problem is that the game needs to change. She's just going to take us further down the road we've been traveling down for the last couple of decades. I don't know anyone in their right mind who thinks the status quo is desirable. Most people are voting for her just to keep Trump out of office.
That's something that I personally have a problem with and bothers me a lot, mainly because of my background and experience in Egypt. One of the things I love most about America is the rule of law and how everyone seems to find it a life-or-death essential to abide by it, so if people start questioning the decency of the people handling the laws; all bets are off, "if Hillary was not indicted then system is definitely rigged", you go by that and what stops you from applying the "rigged" thing to everything else? The election results for example! It will be chaotic and possibly disastrous, from experience. I've read numerous instances in American history where loopholes and legal trickery has been used to make unjust decisions through the law, but everyone still accepts the results, because most people seem to understand that it's what holds a country together. That's my opinion that I formed reading American history.
Oh, and comparing them to different beverages doesn't say too much about your priorities.
A lot of times I'm tempted to pull a Trump and throw a sexist remark on some of your passive aggressive comments but then I don't because of DTF rule of law heh
But also cause you're pretty cool outside of P&R
The reason I made that comparison -and laughed at it- is that I'm not 100% confident that I can convey what I'm thinking to you guys because of the language barrier, I've said that many times over the 10 years I've been here.
With all due respect, I don't think you understand what facts are. I think Trump is most or all of those things that hef said, but they are NOT facts; they are opinions.
I respectfully disagree, conclusions can be facts if you have givens. Hillary was caught lying therefore she's a lair, Trump has said and done things that are degrading to women and therefore he's a misogynist. Unless you think some of the things Hef said about Trump are relative, which is possible but I don't believe so.