Portnoy invites the DT guys to play the 12 step with him

[Kotowboy]

Offtopic, I know, but I don't miss chaossystem at all, he was one of the only two people I've added to ignore list here.

I'm not revealing who's the other one.

Well it's not me.  

[Evermind]

Definitely not.

[Train of Naught]

It's hadi-persian

[jakepriest]

Chris Pierman is god

[SystematicThought]

Wasn't really expecting that reaction to talking about that interview 

[Madman Shepherd]

Now I finally understand the James LaBrie shovel meme. It's because DT "fans" love constantly digging up old shit.

FTFY

Yup, because "real" fans know that you can't provide a source to the relevant post so people know that it was an actual quote and not more so-called MP bashing. 

Besides, it's not like there's anything more to discuss here as evidenced by the last page, so why not lock it and move on?

BTW, those large bolded quotes were my attempt at sarcasm.  I got kind of sick of certain musicians putting quotes around  the word fans when discussing someone that isn't cool with his behavior.  The thousands of dollars I have spent on CDs, concerts, hotels, gas, etc.  (even drumming DVDs...and I'm not a drummer) just doesn't matter. 

I think linking the interview was very relevant and appreciated by those who might not of seen it while when it first came out. 

[SystematicThought]

I was happy that I wasn't the only one that remembered that interview. I could never find it, so I was happy to watch it again and chuckle and feel bad for MP and A7X.

[Darkstarshades]

I wonder how did MP react when being told ‘Dude, that’s not how we do business. You should have talked to us before.’

[SystematicThought]

I'm just surprised that such a big decision was made without talking to the band or their respective managers. I have to imagine that MP had his own manager during that time, or he just went along with the band and their management. I'm just surprised that not more people were involved in his conversations or decisions.

[Elite]

This thread is funny (:

[Nic35]

Wow you guys are looking wayyyyyyy to much into it.

He just wants to reunite for a gig. And they don't want. That's it.

[Mosh]

Well Portnoy himself is not helping with this being blown out of proportion.

This is coming from someone who thinks the criticism he gets is pretty over exaggerated on here.

[ChuckSteak]

People assume too much. They talk as if they knew intimately what goes on between Portnoy and DT, as if they are inside their heads and can see their thoughts. Like a guy said above, it was just an invitation and DT refused, that's it. But people love some controversy, no wonder the topic is 8 pages now.

[bosk1]

Wow you guys are looking wayyyyyyy to much into it.

He just wants to reunite for a gig. And they don't want. That's it.

Agreed.  But Mosh 100% hit the nail on the head with this, which is what has stirred up probably at least half of the conversation:

Well Portnoy himself is not helping with this being blown out of proportion.

And this is coming from someone else who thinks the criticism he gets is pretty over exaggerated on here.

[WheyWaffles]

People assume too much. They talk as if they knew intimately what goes on between Portnoy and DT, as if they are inside their heads and can see their thoughts. Like a guy said above, it was just an invitation and DT refused, that's it. But people love some controversy, no wonder the topic is 8 pages now.

But, of course, this thread wouldn't even exist if not for some guy who has a love of controversy.

[King Postwhore]

Since MP is so open,  we know it all. Poster, please.

[Darkstarshades]

Miguel will probably end up playing with Teodorico as keyboardist

[TheLordOfTheStrings]

The way that I see it is this - MP obviously knows that anything he says publicly regarding DT is going to be manipulated to make him look like the bad guy, mainly because when this all started he was being very childish and was making their "break up" very VERY public. At this point, he really should know better than to send out a PUBLIC invitation to the guys about anything, ESPECIALLY when it's an invitation to get on stage and play with him again. It seems to me, that he's doing it knowing they're more than likely going to say no, because he deliberately wants the fans to think they're holding some grudge against him. If he really wanted them to just play with him, he should just send them an email or a text or whatever. Why must he make these things public when there is so much uncertainty to what their response is going to be? Now all the fans know he extended an invitation to them, and when they decline, now it's "stupid old DT's fault that they couldn't just let it go and play the songs with MP for his birthday". It just doesn't seem genuine. If it was me, and I really missed my friends deep down in my heart, I would make it a little more personal, and NOT make it some public Facebook post. I just don't get it.

[Bertielee]

The way that I see it is this - MP obviously knows that anything he says publicly regarding DT is going to be manipulated to make him look like the bad guy, mainly because when this all started he was being very childish and was making their "break up" very VERY public. At this point, he really should know better than to send out a PUBLIC invitation to the guys about anything, ESPECIALLY when it's an invitation to get on stage and play with him again. It seems to me, that he's doing it knowing they're more than likely going to say no, because he deliberately wants the fans to think they're holding some grudge against him. If he really wanted them to just play with him, he should just send them an email or a text or whatever. Why must he make these things public when there is so much uncertainty to what their response is going to be? Now all the fans know he extended an invitation to them, and when they decline, now it's "stupid old DT's fault that they couldn't just let it go and play the songs with MP for his birthday". It just doesn't seem genuine. If it was me, and I really missed my friends deep down in my heart, I would make it a little more personal, and NOT make it some public Facebook post. I just don't get it.

Completely agree on everything you said.

B.Lee

[Architeuthis]

I disagree, I think MP just wanted to make it a fun thing. Being that he recorded all those songs with DT, He wanted to give them a heads up and felt it would be appropriate to keep them first in mind for the invite. I don't see any harm in that at all and I wouldn't second guess his character. He's done alot of really good things in music and has good intentions.
 

[Kotowboy]

I totally agree that he shouldn't have made it a public invitation.

He should have asked the guys discreetly .

Whether it's always intentional or not - he has a habit of trying to make himself look good in the public eye and it horribly backfiring.

[Cool Chris]

If it was me, and I really missed my friends deep down in my heart, I would make it a little more personal, and NOT make it some public Facebook post. I just don't get it.

That's because you are not a celebrity. That seems like how they communicate everything: On TwittFaceGram, for all the world to see.

[Kotowboy]

@MikePortnoy
" Yo @MrsPortnoy

Sorry I got drunk and threw up in your lap at your sisters wedding. Asking for forgiveness FOR MY FANS. "

@MrsPortnoy

" @MikePortnoy MIKE I CANNOT BELIE VE YOU TWEETED THIS. YOU ARE IN SO MUCH SHIT. "

@MikePortnoy

" @MrsPortnoy Seems you can't rely on anyone. Well. I Tried. FOR THE FANS "

[Madman Shepherd]

MP just posted in response to a fan's request to pick his brain about songwriting:

"For those DT fans with short term memories and have "forgotten" that I was one of the key writers in DT: https://youtu.be/_ovdzUj8h6o"

Coooooome onnnnnnnn.....


Anyway, I don't think this was addressed to me because I am a "fan" but I'm not sure if I have forgotten or "forgotten" or just always correctly "assessed" his "place" in the band"." 

[King Postwhore]

That's what passes us long time fans off.  Shut your mouth Mike and give the guy an answer without being bitter.

It's your damn fault that you have to deal with your bitterness 

[Adami]

That's what passes us long time fans off.  Shut your mouth Mike and give the guy an answer without being bitter.

It's your damn fault that you have to deal with your bitterness

Sounds like you're pretty passed off yourself.

[Kotowboy]

 

[King Postwhore]

That's what passes us long time fans off.  Shut your mouth Mike and give the guy an answer without being bitter.

It's your damn fault that you have to deal with your bitterness

Sounds like you're pretty passed off yourself.

You feel better now that you pointed that out?  Good for you.

The point stands.  I love his music and will always follow him but damn that's the stuff that rubs me the wrong way.

[Adami]

That's what passes us long time fans off.  Shut your mouth Mike and give the guy an answer without being bitter.

It's your damn fault that you have to deal with your bitterness

Sounds like you're pretty passed off yourself.

You feel better now that you pointed that out?

No. 

I agree with your overall point though. Dude has no one to blame but himself.

[Kotowboy]

That's what passes us long time fans off.  Shut your mouth Mike and give the guy an answer without being bitter.

It's your damn fault that you have to deal with your bitterness

Sounds like you're pretty passed off yourself.

You feel better now that you pointed that out?

No. 

I do. 

[King Postwhore]

Alright hugs and kisses.

Kotowboy I fart in your general direction.

[Kotowboy]

Alright hugs and kisses.

Kotowboy I fart in your general direction.

NOW GO AWAY OR I WILL TAUNT YOU A SECOND TIME

[King Postwhore]

 

[KevShmev]

I totally agree that he shouldn't have made it a public invitation.

He should have asked the guys discreetly .
 

I think he did ask them discreetly; he just made the invitation public once it became clear that none of them were coming.

MP just posted in response to a fan's request to pick his brain about songwriting:

"For those DT fans with short term memories and have "forgotten" that I was one of the key writers in DT: https://youtu.be/_ovdzUj8h6o"

Coooooome onnnnnnnn.....


Anyway, I don't think this was addressed to me because I am a "fan" but I'm not sure if I have forgotten or "forgotten" or just always correctly "assessed" his "place" in the band"."

Right, a video directed by Portnoy himself, where he can show himself a lot, is definitely going to tell the real tale as to the songwriting hierarchy in the band.

Watching that, you'd think Portnoy was far more important to the writing process than Rudess, and I think most of us know that that wasn't the case.

[DarkLord_Lalinc]

MP just posted in response to a fan's request to pick his brain about songwriting:

"For those DT fans with short term memories and have "forgotten" that I was one of the key writers in DT: https://youtu.be/_ovdzUj8h6o"

Coooooome onnnnnnnn.....


Anyway, I don't think this was addressed to me because I am a "fan" but I'm not sure if I have forgotten or "forgotten" or just always correctly "assessed" his "place" in the band"."