Author Topic: Are there any bad/unlistenable DT studio albums? (Read 12478 times)

Another_Won · « **on:** July 01, 2016, 12:16:53 PM »

This came up in another thread. If I were to rank all the studio albums, the one at the bottom of my list is just meh, but not bad. It got me thinking, how many people actually think there are unlistenable albums. I know there are some but I was curious how widespread that opinion is.

If you voted "Yes" then which one(s)?

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 01, 2016, 12:19:11 PM »

Well.....not really, I guess.

I never listen to WDADU, but I'm not sure I would say it's unlistenable (like, for example, Rush's Vapor Trails).

Orbert · « **Reply #2 on:** July 01, 2016, 12:23:37 PM »

Same here. I never listen to WDADU, because of the production and the vocals. Not really unlistenable, but if I have to "force" myself to listen to something, it might as well be, because I'm never going to listen to it.

Evermind · « **Reply #3 on:** July 01, 2016, 12:32:56 PM »

I voted yes because of WDADU. Yeah, it's not unlistenable, but it's pretty bad overall as far as I'm concerned.

Prog Snob · « **Reply #4 on:** July 01, 2016, 12:43:47 PM »

I voted a big fan NO. WDADU would be the only possible contender, but that still has some real good songs on it.

Mosh · « **Reply #5 on:** July 01, 2016, 12:50:34 PM »

WDADU is an enjoyable listen, but I wouldn't go out of my way for it. SC on the other hand is the only album that feels like a chore to listen to and I struggle to get through the whole thing.

King Postwhore · « **Reply #6 on:** July 01, 2016, 12:53:11 PM »

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on July 01, 2016, 12:19:11 PM

Well.....not really, I guess.

I never listen to WDADU, but I'm not sure I would say it's unlistenable (like, for example, Rush's Vapor Trails).

What's weird is I don't listen to WDADU but I still do listen to Vapor Trails. BTW not to side track this thread have you heard the remaster Hef?

mikeyd23 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 01, 2016, 12:55:44 PM »

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #8 on:** July 01, 2016, 01:36:57 PM »

Quote from: kingshmegland on July 01, 2016, 12:53:11 PM

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on July 01, 2016, 12:19:11 PM
Well.....not really, I guess.

I never listen to WDADU, but I'm not sure I would say it's unlistenable (like, for example, Rush's Vapor Trails).

What's weird is I don't listen to WDADU but I still do listen to Vapor Trails. BTW not to side track this thread have you heard the remaster Hef?

No, but I heard it's better.

Of course, it would have to be lol

bosk1 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 01, 2016, 01:47:33 PM »

Quote from: Prog Snob on July 01, 2016, 12:43:47 PM

I voted a big fan NO. WDADU would be the only possible contender, but that still has some real good songs on it.

This pretty much sums it up for me. And thankfully, we have WDADRU, which highlights that there are indeed some really good songs that just weren't represented on the original album as well as they could have been. But "bad" or "unlistenable?" No.

Prog Snob · « **Reply #10 on:** July 01, 2016, 01:58:45 PM »

Quote from: bosk1 on July 01, 2016, 01:47:33 PM

Quote from: Prog Snob on July 01, 2016, 12:43:47 PM
I voted a big fan NO. WDADU would be the only possible contender, but that still has some real good songs on it.
This pretty much sums it up for me. And thankfully, we have WDADRU, which highlights that there are indeed some really good songs that just weren't represented on the original album as well as they could have been. But "bad" or "unlistenable?" No.

Exactly. I always thought it was the poor recording of the album. Plus the vocals didn't really fit.

RoeDent · « **Reply #11 on:** July 01, 2016, 02:00:07 PM »

Absolutely not, no. I wish people would get it into their heads that there is no such thing as a bad album; they're just albums that you personally don't like. Even if just 1 person on the planet likes it, the "badness" is rendered null and void.

Another_Won · « **Reply #12 on:** July 01, 2016, 02:04:03 PM »

Quote from: RoeDent on July 01, 2016, 02:00:07 PM

Absolutely not, no. I wish people would get it into their heads that there is no such thing as a bad album; they're just albums that you personally don't like. Even if just 1 person on the planet likes it, the "badness" is rendered null and void.

I really just meant from a personal point of view. Music is so subjective one person can call an album a masterpiece and the next call it bad.

Train of Naught · « **Reply #13 on:** July 01, 2016, 04:07:41 PM »

Yes, but WDADU is the only one I would consider truly "bad"

KevShmev · « **Reply #14 on:** July 01, 2016, 04:25:48 PM »

No. Even the worst album, Systematic Chaos, is still mostly good.

Adami · « **Reply #15 on:** July 01, 2016, 04:45:14 PM »

Like an entire album? No.

But most of an album? Sure. Outside of 1-2 songs, I never listen to anything from SC or DT12.

BlackInk · « **Reply #16 on:** July 01, 2016, 05:03:01 PM »

Yes.

DT12 is pretty much unlistenable for me. I haven't finished an entire song from that album in years because it just upsets me and I have to turn it off.

BanksD · « **Reply #17 on:** July 01, 2016, 06:26:59 PM »

Gonna echo the majority No.

BlobVanDam · « **Reply #18 on:** July 01, 2016, 09:46:13 PM »

Quote from: Evermind on July 01, 2016, 12:32:56 PM

I voted yes because of WDADU. Yeah, it's not unlistenable, but it's pretty bad overall as far as I'm concerned.

That. It's technically listenable, but in practice it's not really listenable.

Otherwise, no. DT have a high standard, and even their weaker albums all have some something great on them.

Progmetty · « **Reply #19 on:** July 01, 2016, 10:06:13 PM »

I listen to the album version of Ytse Jam quiet often, I can't say the same for anything from FII.

gm5k · « **Reply #20 on:** July 01, 2016, 10:06:43 PM »

I do honestly find DT12 difficult to listen to. I'm constantly distracted by the snare sound and have difficulty focusing on the music even though I do love the music as well as the drum parts.

I find WDADU infinitely more listenable than DT12 even though I like the music from DT12 infinitely more.

I hope that some day it's remixed with a different snare like I&W...but not like that snare they replaced the I&W snare with

TheCountOfNYC · « **Reply #21 on:** July 02, 2016, 09:00:06 AM »

I voted no. Dream Theater is one of the few bands in the world that doesn't have a bad album.

vazquez · « **Reply #22 on:** July 02, 2016, 09:37:22 AM »

Yes, I think Systematic Chaos is bad and unlistenable.

Black Clouds is bad, but not unlistenable.

Dreamer · « **Reply #23 on:** July 02, 2016, 09:50:09 AM »

Most of Train of Thought & Black Clouds I cant listen to,plus about half of Six Degrees and Systematic Chaos and quite a bit of WDADU too! But then DT are nowhere near my fave band...

Skeever · « **Reply #24 on:** July 02, 2016, 09:50:49 AM »

Systematic Chaos

Bad sound, bad songs.

jakepriest · « **Reply #25 on:** July 02, 2016, 12:36:07 PM »

Yes.
WDADU and DT12

jjrock88 · « **Reply #26 on:** July 02, 2016, 03:13:29 PM »

No way

Darkstarshades · « **Reply #27 on:** July 02, 2016, 03:15:01 PM »

The Human Equation

jakepriest · « **Reply #28 on:** July 02, 2016, 03:31:14 PM »

Quote from: Darkstarshades on July 02, 2016, 03:15:01 PM

The Human Equation

Crow · « **Reply #29 on:** July 02, 2016, 06:36:47 PM »

if i never listened to DT12 or WDADU again, i don't think i'd ever regret it

ChuckSteak · « **Reply #30 on:** July 02, 2016, 07:03:46 PM »

Yes. The last two albums and WDADU.

Robo4900 · « **Reply #31 on:** July 02, 2016, 08:38:31 PM »

No. WDADU may sound like it was recorded by smashing two bricks hooked up to a car battery together, but the actual songwriting was solid(Hell, I'd put The Killing Hand in my top 3 without hesitation), and although I almost always opt for WDADR instead, I occasionally go for the studio version, when I'm in the right mood. And while DT12 sounds like the final mix was accidentally run through one of JP's distortion pedals, once again, the songwriting saves it.

If we were talking about individual DT songs though, this would be a different matter -- even though I've listened to it twice, I can't remember a single thing about Raw Dog.

Onno · « **Reply #32 on:** July 03, 2016, 04:54:19 AM »

I voted no, because my least favourite DT albums (DT12 and WDADU) are ones I don't really like that much, but they both have their good moments. In the case of DT12, I'm just really indifferent to/bored by the rest of music on there; regarding WDADU, the main reason I never listen to it is the production.

Sycsa · « **Reply #33 on:** July 03, 2016, 07:37:40 AM »

Quote from: RoeDent on July 01, 2016, 02:00:07 PM

Absolutely not, no. I wish people would get it into their heads that there is no such thing as a bad album; they're just albums that you personally don't like. Even if just 1 person on the planet likes it, the "badness" is rendered null and void.

Lol. This kind of relativistic approach rubs me the wrong way, especially when it's presented in such an arrogant manner. By this logic, nothing ever could be considered "bad," since there would always be some bloke on the planet who liked it. No bad movies, no kitschy paintings, no ugly architecture, no lame poetry, no pulp novels. Everything is just a politically correct safe space, there is no good or bad, and beauty is in the eye of the special snowflake beholders. "Null and void," like we're talking law here, give me a break. There's a lot of bad shit out there, and this type of exaggerated artistic relativism just perpetuates that.

jakepriest · « **Reply #34 on:** July 03, 2016, 07:53:28 AM »

Quote from: Sycsa on July 03, 2016, 07:37:40 AM

Quote from: RoeDent on July 01, 2016, 02:00:07 PM
Absolutely not, no. I wish people would get it into their heads that there is no such thing as a bad album; they're just albums that you personally don't like. Even if just 1 person on the planet likes it, the "badness" is rendered null and void.
Lol. This kind of relativistic approach rubs me the wrong way, especially when it's presented in such an arrogant manner. By this logic, nothing ever could be considered "bad," since there would always be some bloke on the planet who liked it. No bad movies, no kitschy paintings, no ugly architecture, no lame poetry, no pulp novels. Everything is just a politically correct safe space, there is no good or bad, and beauty is in the eye of the special snowflake beholders. "Null and void," like we're talking law here, give me a break. There's a lot of bad shit out there, and this type of exaggerated artistic relativism just perpetuates that.

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