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Re: Top 25 Video Games Lists v2.0: Sacul's alternate favorites list (starts pg30)
« Reply #1085 on: September 08, 2017, 09:13:11 PM »
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Hotline Miami
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This is one of the most intense, addictive games I've ever played. You basically are assigned on each chapter a building full of Russian mobs and have to kill them all. But you've got no armor, just a mask, and you'll die very often. But the game lets you restart the level instantly and refine your strategy, because you'll need to sneak in and react fast, think fast. Sometimes even have milimetrical precision and much patience - it's normal to restart a level at least 20 times. There's a wide range of guns and you can throw them to knock down the enemies for some second, and either end or use them as shields. At the end of each level, you get a score based on different factors, and you can unlock new weapons the more points you earn.

That's basically the core of the game, and while I wouldn't normally be attracted to something like it, the strong retro 80s aesthetic, the excellent gameplay, and the goddamned music. Yes, the fucking music is some dope adrenaline-inducing synthwave and has quickly become one of my favorite soundtracks. It's varied, it's creative, and it weirdly fits despite being composed by tracks from 9 different artists. Also, the plot is surprisingly well written and kinda cryptic/hard to follow, but quite inventive and works well.

If you're looking for a very immersive, challenging, and just bad-ass game, get this one.

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« Reply #1086 on: September 09, 2017, 07:37:13 AM »
I think Hotline Miami may have been my favorite game of that year. Holy shit, from the brutality, to the utterly incredible music. To the 80's aesthetic and fun, frantic gameplay. Hotline miami rules.

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« Reply #1087 on: September 09, 2017, 09:42:21 AM »
I have it but haven't played it but I love the style of the game.

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Re: Top 25 Video Games Lists v2.0: Sacul's alternate favorites list (starts pg30)
« Reply #1088 on: September 12, 2017, 04:31:32 PM »
Imma jump on that Hotline Miami dogpile. Fun as fuck.
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Re: Top 25 Video Games Lists v2.0: Sacul's alternate favorites list (starts pg30)
« Reply #1089 on: September 12, 2017, 07:23:45 PM »
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The Stanley Parable
2011



The Stanley Parable is quite a peculiar game made in the Source Engine: about a guy named Stanley (duh) whose job consists on pressing letters that appear in a screen. But one day, when he hasn't received any letter for almost an hour, he goes out of his office to find out his coworkers are gone. He only finds the usual, generic office stuff but no traces of them. Thus, he begins to wander while the narrator's voice tells the player about Stanley's inner thoughts and guides us. That's just the beginning - this game really branches off in many direction, with about 20 different endings depending on what routes you take. Although most people criticise "walking simulators" for a good reason, I feel this one is likely the apex of that kind of games, because the game it's pretty much about choices, that's the only mechanic, and it's exploited in many levels. It's a game about narrative in video games, about the mundane white collar job life, the illusion and desire of freedom, and many more topics depending on how you look at it. It's not very long and can be beaten in a few hours, but those will be some of the most interesting minutes you'll spend in a computer.

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Re: Top 25 Video Games Lists v2.0: Sacul's alternate favorites list (starts pg30)
« Reply #1090 on: September 20, 2017, 08:18:16 PM »
Oops, sorry, been traveling a bit lately and I have some tests in college soon so I'll try wrap this up tomorrow. No love for Stanley tho?  :'(

A little batch of extra honorable mentions that didn't make the cut:

  • Frog Fractions: This game is on fucking drugs: starts like this silly game suppsedly made to teach children about fractions but ofc it's useless then slowly evolves into a... space game, then a hilarious interrogation, some minimalistic underwater platformer, a text adventure, and a president simulator. It's random in purpose and it's amazing at it. Can be beaten in under an hour and played for free.
  • Need for Speed: Most Wanted: I've never been big on racing games beyond some Mario Kart and this one. Dunno how forgot my favorite NfS on my first list, played the shit out of it many times, although I could never actually beat it - last races were too tough for me, and my cars were shit.
  • Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons: A game very inspired by ICO, following its minimalism and lack of dialogue. I'm amazed at how well the plot is told, and how dark it gets. My only complaint is the controls, you need to control each brother with an analog stick and it gets messy. I guess it's made to played by two people.
  • Super Metroid: Of all Metroid games, it's actually one of my least favorites - I love the Prime trilogy to death, and just prefer Zero Mission and the bit of Fusion I've played to it. Hell I'd even prefer Other M if it didn't have such awful storytelling. Still, very solid title, amazing atmosphere and graphics, just some clunky mechanics that haven't aged well and some dumb design choices here and there.
  • Minecraft: Oh man, got this one back when it was still in Alpha! Played countless hours with my friends and in servers. With the years I have move on and last time I revisited it (least year I think?) they had added some things I didn't like and replaced some of the classic sounds I came to love. Well, at least the soundtrack is still gorgeous as usual.
  • Limbo: Pretty atmospheric, cinematic platformer. I dig how much it tells without saying a single thing, and it's quite unforgiving if you aren't paying attention. Can get a little boring at times, but it's a very intriguing game for sure.
  • Pony Island: Solid little game about someone whose souls got trapped into a PC owned by the devil and must escape with the help of another trapped being. It's both cute and dark and not really about ponies :lol

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Re: Top 25 Video Games Lists v2.0: Sacul's alternate favorites list (starts pg30)
« Reply #1091 on: September 20, 2017, 09:40:53 PM »
I'd even prefer Other M.....

I might prefer Other M to a colonoscopy, but not much else.
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« Reply #1092 on: September 21, 2017, 07:33:19 AM »
Oops, sorry, been traveling a bit lately and I have some tests in college soon so I'll try wrap this up tomorrow. No love for Stanley tho?  :'(



Heard about Stanley, but haven't played it. My modern game play-age is highly limited at this point. Game seemed like an awesome concept, so I may check it out at some point.

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  • Super Metroid: Of all Metroid games, it's actually one of my least favorites - I love the Prime trilogy to death, and just prefer Zero Mission and the bit of Fusion I've played to it. Hell I'd even prefer Other M if it didn't have such awful storytelling. Still, very solid title, amazing atmosphere and graphics, just some clunky mechanics that haven't aged well and some dumb design choices here and there.



I believe, seeing these lists and what is on mine, that game fondness is often tied to a person's age and point in time (just wait for my next list! *crickets*). So it's no surprise you like the other Metroid games over SM Sacul. I love SM, and think it is a near perfect game as time has passed for a bunch of reasons. But a lot of my view is because I played the original Metroid on the NES when I was like 12. Where as Metroid Prime 3 was cool for me, but no where near SM for me.
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Re: Top 25 Video Games Lists v2.0: Sacul's alternate favorites list (starts pg30)
« Reply #1093 on: September 21, 2017, 11:33:55 AM »
Frog Fractions is pretty good but a bit dated
Frog Fractions 2 on the other hand was awful, I couldn't even bring myself to finish it

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Re: Top 25 Video Games Lists v2.0: Sacul's alternate favorites list (starts pg30)
« Reply #1094 on: September 21, 2017, 10:33:54 PM »
Let's finish this.


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Mother 3
2006



It's hard to talk about this game because it's a direct sequel to Earthbound, although it's not evident for the most part of it. So I'll just sum up what I love about it.

First of all, its very quirky, absurdist nature. Never being too random, never too "normal" either, the Mother games have a very peculiar sense of humor, consisting on dad jokes, puns, self-references, and playing a lot with the player's expectations. It feels quite childish and silly for the most part, but there's a unique charm to it I can't explain, it just never feels off at all, just fits.

Although it's a turn-based RPG, it's also got a rhythm battle system - yes, you have to play in the song's beat in order to accumulate hits. It's not necessary to master this (I could barely get more than 2 or 3-hit strikes!), but I'll admit it's a lot of fun, and thankfully, for you'll need to grind quite a bit. Enemies are really really varied, sometimes completely absurd and random, and I love it. Mother 3 just has a very strong personality.

Music goes from electronic to samba, classical, 80s rock, rock & roll, ambient, even symphonic stuff. May not be as good as Earthbound's, but it's just a very different approach for a very different game. And graphics are some of the most beautiful pixel art I've seen, filled with bright colors and cartoon-ish sprites.

The plot is surprisingly well-written and developed, with great characters, and a lovely silly story paired with some grim, heart-breaking moments. I don't even know where to being talking about it without spoiling big plot points, so let's say it's about a very unusual group of people who become friends and have to save the world, and they're not heroes at all. But, you need to play Earthbound in order to fully understand it and, most of all, appreciate it - it won't have the same impact if you try this game first, and you'll be spoiled of course. I'll just say this game, despite having a bit of a cheesy ending, it's just quite powerful and emotional, and a wonderful way to wrap up the series.



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Earthbound
1994



Something strange happened with me and Earthbound - I developed an attachment, the sort of you have when you're a kid playing some really good games and just are fond of them forever. Thing is, I'm 21 and just finished this game some months ago, yet feels I grew up with it, or rather, I should have played it as a kid, for I would have loved it to death. And this feeling is not uncommon, for its a game with a very strong motherly feeling: the obvious lack of a fatherly figure, only present as a phone you have to call to when saving your progress; having homesick and needing to visit your mother to cure it and rest; even the fact your parents give you money every time you beat an enemy yet let you go out to save the world. Yes, the alien Giygas has returned from the first Mother game (this being the second one), and in 10 years he'll dominate Earth, so a bee was sent to the past to warn Ness and tell him it was his destiny to beat the evil. Thus, he'll head into one hell of a journey, finding new friends, discovering his own psychic powers, and stopping Giygas' evil influence.

But that's just part of the charm - Earthbound is a very silly, childish, absurdist game, and I mean it in the best way possible. It's got multiple references and parodies of popular culture, many dad jokes and puns, completely random stuff, crazy, hilarious situations, and more. I think the main theme is childhood and growing up, and it shows. The game only takes some dark twists here and there, and mostly in the final part of the plot, and man, it's just... moving. Really, Earthbound has one of the most beautiful, emotional endings of any game I've tried.

Graphics have aged amazingly well, just look at them! It's really beautiful to look at, easy on the eyes, and looks way better than most other RPGs at the time imo, which tried too hard to be realistic or have tons of details. Music it's mostly sampled, but sounds really really good, with a good portion of the cartridge's space dedicated exclusively to it. Doesn't have any concrete genre, just very charming, innocent songs paired with some dark, heavy ones. Combat is just simple turn-based style, with psychic techniques and physical attacks and items, but some statuses are unique, like crying or feeling weird.

It took me quite a while to get into it, but the more I played it, the more I got absorbed into it, and ended up loving it by the end of it. If you're someone who just plays RPGs for the plot itself, you won't find really much developed story, but if you just love quirky games, this is a must. It comes with the Super Nintendo Classic Mini and can be bought at the Wii U virtual console.



And that's it! Sorry it took me a little more than expected, but hope you found some great games on the list :P

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« Reply #1095 on: September 21, 2017, 10:36:29 PM »
I believe, seeing these lists and what is on mine, that game fondness is often tied to a person's age and point in time (just wait for my next list! *crickets*). So it's no surprise you like the other Metroid games over SM Sacul. I love SM, and think it is a near perfect game as time has passed for a bunch of reasons. But a lot of my view is because I played the original Metroid on the NES when I was like 12. Where as Metroid Prime 3 was cool for me, but no where near SM for me.
Indeed, a lot of games on this list and mostly on my first list, were there just out of nostalgia and personal value :P

Frog Fractions is pretty good but a bit dated
Frog Fractions 2 on the other hand was awful, I couldn't even bring myself to finish it
Ohdamn, that's sad to hear  :'( I guess I'll give it a chance anyways.

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« Reply #1096 on: September 24, 2017, 07:05:11 PM »
Earthbound is my short list of to play games, a bummer I missed it during it's brief time in the sun. I haven't heard a bad thing about it I think!
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« Reply #1097 on: September 24, 2017, 07:19:19 PM »
I'll get my thing going again.

This will interest two people here maybe. I could have done another top 25 list, but for one a lot of the games would get more obscure then my top 25 list. And I rather write up about games I’m more familiar with, and/or have played more recently.

NES Nostalgia 15 & 2!

Unfortunately then for more modern gamers, and some otherside-of-the-pond gamers, this could all be boring. The games will all be officially licensed Nintendo Entertainment System games, for mostly better or worse. I will also be using the NA release dates, as some games could have been released nearly two years before in Japan. Also there will be a lot of side-scrolling platforming games, because well, it’s the NES. To attempt to keep it less boring, I will be doing a top 25 NES games, which will include my previously noted ones. I wrote up eight already, so only 17 more to go, nearly already a third done already! Below will be the links for the top eight. Plus, two more of the games are from the honorable mentions! So really, it’s 15 more.

As a result of already doing my top eight NES games, I will actually work backwards, from #9 to #25. So it will be anti-climatic if you will. The new honorable mentions will conclude the list. I figured it is a way to change it up a touch, plus I don’t have much of a choice! I also have another issue; Battletoads and Zelda II are no longer actually #9 & #10, based on them being honorable mentions. I noted them to get the names out there to a degree, not thinking I would rank things further and write it out. So these two are lost somewhere in the ranking, until they re-appear!


1 (4) Blaster Master
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41605.msg2156221#msg2156221

2 (9) Ninja Gaiden
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41605.msg2149392#msg2149392

3 (11) Dragon Warrior/Quest IV
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41605.msg2148735#msg2148735

4 (12) Super Mario Bros. 3
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41605.msg2146791#msg2146791

5 (13) Tecmo Super Bowl
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41605.msg2146236#msg2146236

6 (15) Mega Man 3
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41605.msg2145402#msg2145402

7 (21) Castlevania II: Simon’s Quest
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41605.msg2142636#msg2142636

8 (23) Snake's Revenge
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=41605.msg2141944#msg2141944



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« Reply #1098 on: September 24, 2017, 07:22:47 PM »




9) Ghostbusters {1987?}



A masterpiece, really. It has it all- the four busters. Ghosts. The song, complete with a voice sample if I remember correctly saying “Ghostbusters!” Ecto-1. Stay Puft, Gozer.

It goes beyond just that though- it adds in plausible stuff that maybe happened behind the scenes. We have the Busters driving Ecto-1 around the city, to their office and job sites!





It also adds in a stair case scene. Obviously the Busters needed to get to the roof of a tall building in the film. So they must have climbed up a bunch of flights of stairs! There is really unique gameplay here too; instead of using the D-pad, you have to mash the heck out of B and A buttons to climb or descend the stairs.





Yeah, this game is bad.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ghostbusters_video_games#Ghostbusters_.28Activision.29
Investigating the game a bit for this troll, it was initially not a Ghostbusters game (not surprising). And the ending text was programmed by a Japanese developer, as Activision didn’t like the initial ending so that explains the translation challenge.

This is probably the worst game I physically own. Wait, maybe it’s the WWF/E NES game. But that has no ending point, so it sits there on a shelf. I also did not buy Ghostbusters or WFF- both were given to me in a game lot. No one I knew owned this game, I never rented it, and no one spoke about the game. I’m happy for that! That all said, I did beat it once I got the physical copy. I used the NES Advantage to beat the stair case, even though there is a bug I guess. Otherwise, the game is monotonous, and more mindless then Final FantasyI leveling-up. It is pretty bad, although not the worst licensed NES game from what I gather. Might be the worst media-licensed game though. The Ghostbusters theme plays for-the-entire-game.

So onto the actual list then, for now... :)



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« Reply #1099 on: September 25, 2017, 07:24:56 PM »




9) Metroid {1986}



A truly remarkable game. Despite me ranking this below SMB3, I actually think Metroid is a better franchise. And in some ways, this is a better game. SMB3 has much more weight to it, and I play SMB3 more than Metroid. But this is only because Super Metroid is so much more refined, and I prefer that over Metroid and SMB3. Also SMB3 is more mindless so to speak, so it’s a good tune out vs. Metroid.

So what makes this game awesome? At its core, I think it’s a splendid combination of the other two flagship franchises- the less linear & RPG elements of Zelda, combined with the platforming of Mario. This game is the start of the whole Metroidvania thing, as this had basically all the elements of those games right here and now.







What else makes this game unique? It is heavily inspired by Alien. It gives you that solitary feeling in space.  This is accomplished in a couple of ways, primarily the music. The extra-terrestrial nature of enemies, and a stretch would be to say some of images. Not so much, especially considering the limitations of the hardware. And there are lots of vibrant colors that go against this. But some aesthetics, and the backgrounds are all black. Where as Mario is not. Oh, and yeah, the main character is a woman. So there is that similarity too. And the titular characters latch onto you like a parasite, not too far off a face hugger. Plus the boss Ridley’s name is apparently a nod to Ridley Scott.










That soundtrack- wow. I didn’t even know its greatness until there was metroidmetal.com. That gave me a fresh look, and really really made me appreciate it. There are some melodies, with Brinstar being the highlight. And what a start to the game with that, as it charges you up only to change not long after. The melodies are mostly forsaken for moody (Norfair), eerie at times (Ridley & Kraid) pieces.

The gameplay is maybe the only downfall to the game. But I give it more credit, as it was 1986. There is item progression, and this game is well known for despite being open, there is a sequence to generally follow. This game is not speed run and sequence broken like SM is. It also is not an easy game to explore, so think Zelda1 burning trees if you haven’t played this. There are items if I recall, and passages hidden within blocks you have to bust. So if you play this blindly, expect to sink a lot of time into it shooting stuff, and jumping in lava.










So the game is not a technical skill burden, but a chore to explore. If you haven't played this, and want to do it without assistance, you will need to map it out. Also, the story of the franchise is better than Mario (fairytale basically) and Zelda. I also prefer the setting of space and the future, vs. almost medieval or whimsical. Zelda does get the edge for story on NES, as I don’t recall Metroid having any text in-game. Once again, there is the big ? type of feel to the game. Some of this comes down to maybe the time period it was released (similar box to black-box NES games), and Miyamoto wasn't directly involved. A nice explanation of the limitation of NES story telling at that time; it ties it to Alien again, as that movie left us with questions of the heck is that alien about?



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« Reply #1100 on: September 25, 2017, 08:11:14 PM »
Never played any of the Metroid games unless you count playing Samus on Super Smash Brothers, great write though!