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In an attempt to climb to the top of Mt. Everest to show the world what vegans can do, vegan doctor Maria Strydom dies of altitude sickness:

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/23/maria-strydom-dies-on-mount-everest-tackled-trek-t/

Being vegan, it's possible she was at increased risk for anemia, and since Everest is risky to begin with, she should have had much greater contingency plans in place.  If you decide to tackle Everest, you should go into it assuming you won't make it out alive, even in the best of health.

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Three other non-vegans have also died this week in the same spot.

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Three other non-vegans have also died this week in the same spot.

This is true, but when you purposely put yourself at a potentially greater risk for limiting the amount of oxygen your blood can carry, maybe you shouldn't be trying to climb the tallest mountain in the world.  It's certainly possible that this wasn't an issue for her, admittedly, but it's something I would certainly consider, if it were me.  But as noted, you climb Everest, you should consider that you will very possibly not make it out alive.  I would never even consider it.

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Eh. Most people would get altitude sickness on Mount Everest, regardless of diet.
Sure, vegans can be hella annoying about their diet but I sort of agree with the point she was trying to make here- there are tons of ways to get iron and protein without being a carnivore, but people love to hate on that lifestyle. Frankly, just as annoying as vegans are people who rip on them and try to prove a point by eating meat at every meal because Amuricuh.

She climbed Denali and Kilimanjaro, for fucks sake. It's not like she was an amateur.
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An experienced mountain climber, for sure, but the likelihood that they'll kill anyone is significantly lower than Everest, I'd imagine.

I just can't imagine what goes through someone's mind that makes them think "LOTS of people die trying to climb this ridiculously inhospitable mountain, because the human body really isn't greatly equipped to handle that kind of atmosphere, but it's here and I have some mountain boots, so fuck it, let's go!"

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Sure, vegans can be hella annoying about their diet but . . . Frankly, just as annoying as vegans are people who rip on them and try to prove a point by eating meat at every meal because Amuricuh.

I mostly tend to agree.  Except that you kinda did the same thing at the end by tossing out the "Amuricuh" barb at the end, which I find just as annoying as either of the two other scenarios too. 
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Sure, vegans can be hella annoying about their diet but . . . Frankly, just as annoying as vegans are people who rip on them and try to prove a point by eating meat at every meal because Amuricuh.

I mostly tend to agree.  Except that you kinda did the same thing at the end by tossing out the "Amuricuh" barb at the end, which I find just as annoying as either of the two other scenarios too.

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How sad.

Sure, vegans can be hella annoying about their diet but . . . Frankly, just as annoying as vegans are people who rip on them and try to prove a point by eating meat at every meal because Amuricuh.

I mostly tend to agree.  Except that you kinda did the same thing at the end by tossing out the "Amuricuh" barb at the end, which I find just as annoying as either of the two other scenarios too. 

What he said I also agree. It's people get on a soapbox and become annoying. It's like good for you, now let me be. Its how I feel about the Trans issue, and overly proud gay people.
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Re: Vegan attempts to climb highest soapbox to say "I'm a vegan!", fails
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2016, 10:38:23 AM »
Sure, vegans can be hella annoying about their diet but . . . Frankly, just as annoying as vegans are people who rip on them and try to prove a point by eating meat at every meal because Amuricuh.

I mostly tend to agree.  Except that you kinda did the same thing at the end by tossing out the "Amuricuh" barb at the end, which I find just as annoying as either of the two other scenarios too.

Me too. It's spelled 'Murica.

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I said that, bosk, because people have said almost that exact thing to me. So I'm not sure how it's the same.
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Re: Vegan attempts to climb highest soapbox to say "I'm a vegan!", fails
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2016, 10:43:35 AM »
Everest is somewhat of a hobby for me... a personal goal to trek to base camp (not necessarily climb; though I suppose I would attempt it if the offer was made to me). 

Cerebral edema is actually somewhat rare (the rarity diminishes though as one moves above 4,000 meters) and quite preventable by acclimatizing correctly; I've yet to read any information regarding her and her husband's acclimatization for the climb, though they were experienced mountaineers so I feel sure they attempted to acclimatize as well as possible.  Two of the other deaths were in the same climbing group as Strydom and her husband (who is expected to be OK physically); perhaps the acclimatization techniques for this particular outfitter didn't work to the fullest for these particular climbers.  Everybody is different, requiring different levels and speeds of acclimatization; I think the trick is being able to identify what is working and what isn't.  Regardless of acclimatization though, some people's systems simply cannot handle the atmosphere (or lack of it) at that extreme altitude.

There's also been a Sherpa die this year (fell whilst fixing rope 150 meters below the summit) and last I read, there is still an ongoing search for two lost climbers.

Strydom was quoted by her family as saying that she didn't take risks (other than calculated risks I guess); I'll assume that the symptoms came on very suddenly or that she tried to fight the symptoms off between camp three and four.  Believe it or not, Everest is a calculated risk; something like 300+ have safely reached the summit this season (though frostbite has been a big problem this season).

Vegan is vegan I guess; nothing wrong with a whole foods plant based diet (could throw some meat in there a few times a week; that's how my wife and I do it).  I applaud her and her husband for attempting the seven summits and attempting Everest; I just wonder if her husband feels that the calculated risk was worth it.  Once you're there, nose-to-nose with that beautiful pile of snow/ice covered rock, and in the midst of the climb, all that vegan-this vegan-that likely goes out the window and you simply want to survive as your body begins to cannibalize itself.
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Re: Vegan attempts to climb highest soapbox to say "I'm a vegan!", fails
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2016, 10:44:59 AM »
I'd rather dip my dick in a deep fryer than attempt to climb Mt. Everest.

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Re: Vegan attempts to climb highest soapbox to say "I'm a vegan!", fails
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2016, 10:48:46 AM »
I'll just avoid both, thanks.
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Re: Vegan attempts to climb highest soapbox to say "I'm a vegan!", fails
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2016, 10:58:42 AM »
 
I'd rather dip my dick in a deep fryer than attempt to climb Mt. Everest.

 :lol  That's one way to put it...

I'd trek to Base Camp (REI does it right in my opinion), but to actually climb it would be a different story.  After reading Krakauer's book and reading a lot of his recent quotes about his time at Everest, mainly saying that he wishes he'd never gone to the mountain and it was the "worst mistake of his life" (and that coming from a serious climber who has done some crazy climbs), I would seriously question climbing it.  I'd love to rub noses with it, but I don't know if I'd attempt it.
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Re: Vegan attempts to climb highest soapbox to say "I'm a vegan!", fails
« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2016, 11:23:52 AM »
I know for certain I would not attempt it.  But the trek to base camp would be awesome.
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Re: Vegan attempts to climb highest soapbox to say "I'm a vegan!", fails
« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2016, 11:26:23 AM »
It just sounds like an absolutely miserable way to spend 2 months. Miserable. And you spend 50k and risk your life to maybe be one of these people waiting in line to spend a couple of minutes at the summit, which might not even happen due to time constraints.



Don't get me wrong, I'd certainly do it before deep-frying my Johnson, but it really would be one of the last things I'd ever want to undertake.
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Re: Vegan attempts to climb highest soapbox to say "I'm a vegan!", fails
« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2016, 11:27:38 AM »
I'd rather dip my dick in a deep fryer than attempt to climb Mt. Everest.

 :lol  That's one way to put it...

I'd trek to Base Camp (REI does it right in my opinion), but to actually climb it would be a different story.  After reading Krakauer's book and reading a lot of his recent quotes about his time at Everest, mainly saying that he wishes he'd never gone to the mountain and it was the "worst mistake of his life" (and that coming from a serious climber who has done some crazy climbs), I would seriously question climbing it.  I'd love to rub noses with it, but I don't know if I'd attempt it.
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Re: Vegan attempts to climb highest soapbox to say "I'm a vegan!", fails
« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2016, 11:31:05 AM »
Don't get me wrong, I'd certainly do it before deep-frying my Johnson...

Maybe not quite POTY-worthy, but :rollin
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Re: Vegan attempts to climb highest soapbox to say "I'm a vegan!", fails
« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2016, 11:32:56 AM »
Unless the batter you use is Vegan, El Barto.


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Re: Vegan attempts to climb highest soapbox to say "I'm a vegan!", fails
« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2016, 12:16:38 PM »
An atheist, a vegan, and a crossfitter walk into a bar.  I only know because they told everyone within two minutes.

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Re: Vegan attempts to climb highest soapbox to say "I'm a vegan!", fails
« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2016, 12:28:34 PM »
An atheist, a vegan, and a crossfitter walk into a bar.  I only know because I saw it on Facebook.

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Re: Vegan attempts to climb highest soapbox to say "I'm a vegan!", fails
« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2016, 01:30:28 PM »
Some people call this "evolution"  :lol

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« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2016, 02:09:57 PM »
An atheist, a vegan, and a crossfitter walk into a bar.  I only know because they told everyone within two minutes.
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Re: Vegan attempts to climb highest soapbox to say "I'm a vegan!", fails
« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2016, 03:46:08 PM »
Some people call this "evolution"  :lol

No they call it " Everest "...

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Re: Vegan attempts to climb highest soapbox to say "I'm a vegan!", fails
« Reply #25 on: May 24, 2016, 04:08:58 PM »
THIS IS VEGAN SPARTA!!
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« Reply #26 on: May 24, 2016, 05:53:25 PM »
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Re: Vegan attempts to climb highest soapbox to say "I'm a vegan!", fails
« Reply #27 on: May 24, 2016, 07:40:09 PM »
I wish they closed off Mt Everest, seriously. It's such a gimmicky fad at this point.
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Re: Vegan attempts to climb highest soapbox to say "I'm a vegan!", fails
« Reply #28 on: May 24, 2016, 08:27:40 PM »
Having dipped other parts of my anatomy in a deep fryer (fingers), trust me guys, try Everest first. That shit is hot.

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« Reply #29 on: May 24, 2016, 08:32:26 PM »
I wish they closed off Mt Everest, seriously. It's such a gimmicky fad at this point.
I bet those who have successfully climbed it would beg to differ.
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« Reply #30 on: May 25, 2016, 12:20:35 AM »
This thread giving me the urge for a big juicy t-bone!
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« Reply #31 on: May 25, 2016, 04:47:06 AM »
This thread giving me the urge for a big juicy t-bone!

All that dong frying talk, amirite?
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Re: Vegan attempts to climb highest soapbox to say "I'm a vegan!", fails
« Reply #32 on: May 25, 2016, 05:23:25 AM »
I wish they closed off Mt Everest, seriously. It's such a gimmicky fad at this point.
I bet those who have successfully climbed it would beg to differ.

 :lol

Well, I don't think they should close it.  :lol  I'm not sure what that would accomplish.

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Re: Vegan attempts to climb highest soapbox to say "I'm a vegan!", fails
« Reply #33 on: May 25, 2016, 06:02:28 AM »
I wish they closed off Mt Everest, seriously. It's such a gimmicky fad at this point.
I bet those who have successfully climbed it would beg to differ.

 :lol

Well, I don't think they should close it.  :lol  I'm not sure what that would accomplish.

It'd stop this shit.


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« Reply #34 on: May 25, 2016, 08:28:54 AM »
Now that's a valid reason to close it.
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