Good stuff in post MP period

[KevShmev]

It's pretty much been all good.  In fact, the only thing I haven't liked about this incarnation is the irrigidity/inflexibility of the live performances due to deciding to stick with click tracks. 

I hear you.  But on the upside:  I think people kind of picked up on MM's stress on the DT12 tour at times.  He and the rest of the band have now gotten so comfortable with the click that they really look and sound like they are having a great time.  I just saw them last night, and you could see and feel the joy that they all had being up there playing and performing, especially Mangini. 

To answer the main question in the thread, pretty much all of it.  The MP era was fantastic.  But the MM era is as well.  Three fantastic albums and tours in a row now.  It is starting to feel like this is a band that just can't miss.

And to think that the whole MM era was preceded by Raw Dog.

[jakepriest]

And to think that the whole MM era was preceded by Raw Dog.

Which is a better song than anything on DT12 

[KevShmev]

And to think that the whole MM era was preceded by Raw Dog.

Which is a better song than anything on DT12 

[jakepriest]

Yeah I'm sorry. The Enemy Inside and Surrender to Reason are better. 

[fischermasamune]

To me this is not the post-MP period, but rather the MM period.

[Prog Snob]

And to think that the whole MM era was preceded by Raw Dog.

Which is a better song than anything on DT12 

[hefdaddy42]

And to think that the whole MM era was preceded by Raw Dog.

Which is a better song than anything on DT12 

I will pray for your soul.

[cramx3]

Does Winery Dogs count?  Also, everything by DT has been good since MP left.

[bosk1]

It's pretty much been all good.  In fact, the only thing I haven't liked about this incarnation is the irrigidity/inflexibility of the live performances due to deciding to stick with click tracks. 

I hear you.  But on the upside:  I think people kind of picked up on MM's stress on the DT12 tour at times.  He and the rest of the band have now gotten so comfortable with the click that they really look and sound like they are having a great time.  I just saw them last night, and you could see and feel the joy that they all had being up there playing and performing, especially Mangini. 

To answer the main question in the thread, pretty much all of it.  The MP era was fantastic.  But the MM era is as well.  Three fantastic albums and tours in a row now.  It is starting to feel like this is a band that just can't miss.

And to think that the whole MM era was preceded by Raw Dog.

Okay, but...relevance?  A one-off track for a video game isn't really indicative of where the band was going.  It isn't really indicative of anything, IMO.  If it had been fantastic, that still wouldn't really have meant much in the grand scheme of things.

Also, everything by DT has been good since MP left.

Fixed.

[cramx3]

Truth

[bosk1]

  Cram, did you see them on this tour?  I seem to remember seeing you posting about one show or another, but can't remember.

[cramx3]

  Cram, did you see them on this tour?  I seem to remember seeing you posting about one show or another, but can't remember.

Yes, I went to the RCMH show

[bosk1]

That had to have been cool.  Did you enjoy the show?

[darkshade]

ADTOE
The ambient and orchestral sections of Illumination Theory.

The rest is just OK.

[cramx3]

That had to have been cool.  Did you enjoy the show?

Oh yea, it was a blast especially the meet up before hand, sucks there wasn't a large DTF meet up at your show, but we had a good time in NYC with a few forum members before and after the show.

I've made my complaints about the show in the complaints thread, but they were very minor even if I was vocal about them (just discussion points), but overall I thought the video show and performance were great.

[axeman90210]

Overall I would say ADTOE was uneven (highlights being Bridges in the Sky, Breaking All Illusions), DT12, while never reaching the heights of its predecessor (aside from maybe Illumination Theory) is probably a more consistent album. I'm still digesting The Astonishing, but it's slowly growing on me.

[devieira73]

I think the Mangini era has been great so far and it gave a new energy and inspiration to DT in many aspects.
At this point, after two albuns with sound problems, I think the band reached a great level of sound production with TA. My only and little complain is about the drum sound, that I wish it was more organic. The things that I really miss from MP era are the variated setlists and THE OFFICIAL BOOTLEGS!!! Today I was listening to the Made in Japan, and what a great and interesting performance! And I forgot that Roger Glover himself also mixed the DT version! IMO the care that MP had with these details and his work to give the fans this type of product will be always missing. It's sad that DT seems to have no interest in new Ytse jam releases of any era.

[cramx3]

It's sad that DT seems to have no interest in new Ytse jam releases of any era.

We did get the Christmas live CD and it was FREE so that was even better than the ytse jam releases, but I do agree that the live spontaneity is something I miss.

[DarkLord_Lalinc]

And to think that the whole MM era was preceded by Raw Dog.

Which is a better song than anything on DT12 

Poor lost soul.

[wolven74]

TA is by far my favorite since MP left.

[Kotowboy]

And to think that the whole MM era was preceded by Raw Dog.

Which is a better song than anything on DT12 

[devieira73]

It's sad that DT seems to have no interest in new Ytse jam releases of any era.

We did get the Christmas live CD and it was FREE so that was even better than the ytse jam releases, but I do agree that the live spontaneity is something I miss.

I agree with that and it was really very cool from DT, but in the last 5 years, it was the only "Ytse jam bootleg/demo/cover" that they released.

[cramx3]

It's sad that DT seems to have no interest in new Ytse jam releases of any era.

We did get the Christmas live CD and it was FREE so that was even better than the ytse jam releases, but I do agree that the live spontaneity is something I miss.

I agree with that and it was really very cool from DT, but in the last 5 years, it was the only "Ytse jam bootleg/demo/cover" that they released.

As much as I would love more, what else is there really for them to release in that span?  The only thing I can say would be a show from this past summer tour with the anniversary set list.  Between the two official DVDs and the Christmas release we really got a taste of everything from the past 5 years from the band through those three releases.  Now a DVD of this current tour and maybe a bonus of say the Wacken summer show would be all that is missing, but enough time hasn't passed to really get upset about that.

[Prog Snob]

That had to have been cool.  Did you enjoy the show?

I wish I had video of Cram rocking out in the aisle at the RCMH show. Trust me, he enjoyed it more than anyone. The multiple drinks he had at the meetup helped, of course.   

[cramx3]

That had to have been cool.  Did you enjoy the show?

I wish I had video of Cram rocking out in the aisle at the RCMH show. Trust me, he enjoyed it more than anyone. The multiple drinks he had at the meetup helped, of course.   

  the drinks definitely helped, it was hard to contain my excitement in my seat

[Prog Snob]

That had to have been cool.  Did you enjoy the show?

I wish I had video of Cram rocking out in the aisle at the RCMH show. Trust me, he enjoyed it more than anyone. The multiple drinks he had at the meetup helped, of course.   

  the drinks definitely helped, it was hard to contain my excitement in my seat

That poor usher...   

[cramx3]

That had to have been cool.  Did you enjoy the show?

I wish I had video of Cram rocking out in the aisle at the RCMH show. Trust me, he enjoyed it more than anyone. The multiple drinks he had at the meetup helped, of course.   

  the drinks definitely helped, it was hard to contain my excitement in my seat

That poor usher...   

  I had such a good time

[devieira73]

It's sad that DT seems to have no interest in new Ytse jam releases of any era.

We did get the Christmas live CD and it was FREE so that was even better than the ytse jam releases, but I do agree that the live spontaneity is something I miss.

I agree with that and it was really very cool from DT, but in the last 5 years, it was the only "Ytse jam bootleg/demo/cover" that they released.

As much as I would love more, what else is there really for them to release in that span?  The only thing I can say would be a show from this past summer tour with the anniversary set list.  Between the two official DVDs and the Christmas release we really got a taste of everything from the past 5 years from the band through those three releases.  Now a DVD of this current tour and maybe a bonus of say the Wacken summer show would be all that is missing, but enough time hasn't passed to really get upset about that.

Besides the ones you listed, I can remember of complete drummer's auditions (at least, complete MM audition), ADToE demos, DVD of the entire show from London 7/24/11 and TA demos (this one, for a future release of course). And a lot of material from MP era, that belongs to MP, but I'm pretty sure (for some interviews from MP and JP that I read), if the band still had interest to release something of that period, it could be done a financial agreement with MP to do it.  I'm not very upset about that, I just think that would be really cool if the band continued to release this kind of material much more frequently and in more quantity like they used to do.

[Prog Snob]

That had to have been cool.  Did you enjoy the show?

I wish I had video of Cram rocking out in the aisle at the RCMH show. Trust me, he enjoyed it more than anyone. The multiple drinks he had at the meetup helped, of course.   

  the drinks definitely helped, it was hard to contain my excitement in my seat

That poor usher...   

  I had such a good time

How many times did he come over to you?

[KevShmev]

It's pretty much been all good.  In fact, the only thing I haven't liked about this incarnation is the irrigidity/inflexibility of the live performances due to deciding to stick with click tracks. 

I hear you.  But on the upside:  I think people kind of picked up on MM's stress on the DT12 tour at times.  He and the rest of the band have now gotten so comfortable with the click that they really look and sound like they are having a great time.  I just saw them last night, and you could see and feel the joy that they all had being up there playing and performing, especially Mangini. 

To answer the main question in the thread, pretty much all of it.  The MP era was fantastic.  But the MM era is as well.  Three fantastic albums and tours in a row now.  It is starting to feel like this is a band that just can't miss.

And to think that the whole MM era was preceded by Raw Dog.

Okay, but...relevance?  A one-off track for a video game isn't really indicative of where the band was going.  It isn't really indicative of anything, IMO.  If it had been fantastic, that still wouldn't really have meant much in the grand scheme of things.

 

Zero.  It was me being a smart ass.

[Rickharris1011]

Lots of good stuff from the MM-era.  My 10-song best of playlist at the moment:

Distopian Overture
OTBoA (may not be the best, but this song brought me back to DT)
A Better Life
BiTS
This is the life
Behind the Veil
A New Beginning
Three Days
Breaking All Illusions
Illumination Theory

I could swap in another 10 songs easy

[mathiasris]

Can't believe no one has mentioned

LOST NOT FORGOTTEN!
Other songs:
On The Backs Of Angels
Outcry
Beneath the Surface
The Enemy Inside
Moment of Betrayal
Ravenskill
Chosen

God i miss the riffs from the 2000s! DT must be trapped in a Glass Prison

[red barchetta]

- ADTOE
- first time I saw Mangini drum solo during that tour, amazing.

And I miss MP sound, PLEASE guys, ROCK!

- DT 12 has grown on me, it has some very good parts.

[Darkstarshades]

Good songs of the MM era

On The Backs of Angels
Build me up, Break me Down
Lost not Forgotten
This is the Life
Bridges in the Sky
Outcry
Far From Heaven
Breaking all Illusions
Beneath the Surface
False Awakening Suite
The Enemy Inside
The Looking Glass
Enigma Machine
The Bigger Picture
Behind the Veil
Surrender To Reason
Along for the Ride
Illumination Theory
Descent of the NOMACS
Dystopian Overture
The Gift of Music
The Answer
A Better Life
Lord Nafaryus
A Savior in the Square
When your time has come
Act of Faythe
Three Days
The Hovering Sojourn
Brother, Can You Hear Me?
A Life Left Behind
Ravenskill
Chosen
A Tempting Offer
Digital Discord
The X Aspect
A New Beginning
The Road to Revolution
2285 Entr'acte
Moment of Betrayal
Heaven's Cove
Begin Again
The Path that Divides
Machine Chatter
The Walking Shadow
My Last Farewell
Losing Faythe
Whispers on the Wind
Hymn of a Thousand Voices
Our New World
Power Down
Astonishing



Good songs of the MP era

Prophets of War
Never Enough
Wither
A Rite of Passage
Raw Dog
You Not Me
Through my Words (MP at his best)

[Dream Team]

Your joke would work better if you hadn't included Wither.