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Re: wolfking's roulette to end all roulettes v. Finals Round 1 results!!
« Reply #1085 on: May 29, 2016, 06:27:04 AM »
Pretty sure my song would also be Chad approved, especially considering who is singing the chorus.  :heart
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Re: wolfking's roulette to end all roulettes v. Finals Round 1 results!!
« Reply #1086 on: May 29, 2016, 09:15:31 AM »
My song is not Chad approved for whatever that's worth. :lol
Winger would be better!

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Re: wolfking's roulette to end all roulettes v. Finals Round 1 results!!
« Reply #1087 on: May 29, 2016, 09:24:37 AM »
In the end, all that matters is that they are Wolfking approved!
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Re: wolfking's roulette to end all roulettes v. Finals Round 1 results!!
« Reply #1088 on: May 29, 2016, 11:57:47 PM »
In the end, all that matters is that they are Wolfking approved!

Trying to get some brownie points Tim?  :biggrin:

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Re: wolfking's roulette to end all roulettes v. Finals Round 1 results!!
« Reply #1089 on: May 30, 2016, 05:55:36 AM »
Round 8 songs;


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Re: wolfking's roulette to end all roulettes v. Finals Round 1 results!!
« Reply #1090 on: May 30, 2016, 06:31:04 AM »
Shaft of Steel - Drive (Chad?)

Omnium gatherum- The Second Flame - (Hath?) a band I recommended to you Kade in the metal thread a while back  ;) , so will be interested to see how you like them

Amadeus Awad's Eon - Incarnation

Killer Dwarfs - Dirty Weapons? (Paul?)
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Re: wolfking's roulette to end all roulettes v. Finals Round 1 results!!
« Reply #1091 on: May 30, 2016, 06:54:53 AM »
Dyscordia - The Empty Room

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Re: wolfking's roulette to end all roulettes v. Finals Round 1 results!!
« Reply #1092 on: May 30, 2016, 01:08:05 PM »
In the end, all that matters is that they are Wolfking approved!

Trying to get some brownie points Tim?  :biggrin:

Nope. Just speaking the truth.

Though brownie points may be easier to attain than Japanese Bonus Points.
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Re: wolfking's roulette to end all roulettes v. Finals Round 1 results!!
« Reply #1093 on: May 30, 2016, 01:20:19 PM »
Kingshmegland - Faustian Monsters

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Re: wolfking's roulette to end all roulettes v. Finals Round 1 results!!
« Reply #1094 on: May 30, 2016, 02:58:46 PM »
Shaft of Steel - Drive (Chad?)

Omnium gatherum- The Second Flame - (Hath?) a band I recommended to you Kade in the metal thread a while back  ;) , so will be interested to see how you like them

Amadeus Awad's Eon - Incarnation

Killer Dwarfs - Dirty Weapons? (Paul?)

Looks like it but not mine  :biggrin: jj's possibly.

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Re: wolfking's roulette to end all roulettes v. Finals Round 1 results!!
« Reply #1095 on: May 30, 2016, 03:27:15 PM »
In the end, all that matters is that they are Wolfking approved!

Trying to get some brownie points Tim?  :biggrin:

Nope. Just speaking the truth.

Though brownie points may be easier to attain than Japanese Bonus Points.

 :lol  It's true.

Omnium gatherum- The Second Flame - (Hath?) a band I recommended to you Kade in the metal thread a while back  ;) , so will be interested to see how you like them

Can't recall mate, but I think you've mentioned most bands ever at some point.  :lol

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Re: wolfking's roulette to end all roulettes v. Finals Round 1 results!!
« Reply #1096 on: May 31, 2016, 03:03:42 PM »
I'm gonna give away the band matchups cause results either tonight or tomorrow;

Killer Dwarfs - Dirty Weapons vs Amadeus Awad's Eon - Incarnation
Shaft of Steel - Drive vs Reign of Fury - Faustian Mastery
Dyscordia - The Empty Room vs Project Aegis - Angel in the Ashes
Omnium Gatherum - The Second Flame vs Ice Age - Perpetual Child

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Re: wolfking's roulette to end all roulettes v. Finals Round 2 listening!
« Reply #1097 on: May 31, 2016, 03:09:50 PM »
Aha Paul...........Reign of Fury  ;D
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Re: wolfking's roulette to end all roulettes v. Finals Round 2 listening!
« Reply #1098 on: May 31, 2016, 03:26:52 PM »
Results tonight?? I'm not ready to die!!!!
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Re: wolfking's roulette to end all roulettes v. Finals Round 2 listening!
« Reply #1099 on: May 31, 2016, 03:33:53 PM »
I will say everything here is mostly pretty damn strong.

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Re: wolfking's roulette to end all roulettes v. Finals Round 2 listening!
« Reply #1100 on: May 31, 2016, 04:12:04 PM »
Also, another twist;

The person who is likely to finish in 5th place will get a lifeline and will go through to the next round.  They just won't be in a matchup and able to secure a bonus half point.  I think it will be very close.

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Re: wolfking's roulette to end all roulettes v. Finals Round 2 listening!
« Reply #1101 on: May 31, 2016, 06:27:54 PM »
Also, another twist;

The person who is likely to finish in 5th place will get a lifeline and will go through to the next round. 
That's like Roulette Welfare!  :lol  I'll take it!
Thanks Kade. It appears those brownie points ARE working!

 
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Re: wolfking's roulette to end all roulettes v. Finals Round 2 listening!
« Reply #1102 on: May 31, 2016, 06:32:24 PM »
I will say everything here is mostly pretty damn strong.

To be expected with who's in this thing. It's an amazing group to be a part of.
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« Reply #1103 on: May 31, 2016, 08:12:55 PM »
I will say everything here is mostly pretty damn strong.

To be expected with who's in this thing. It's an amazing group to be a part of.

Tim is getting brownie points all over the place!!

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Re: wolfking's roulette to end all roulettes v. Finals Round 2 listening!
« Reply #1104 on: June 01, 2016, 09:52:56 AM »
Aha Paul...........Reign of Fury  ;D

That tune is awesome!! I may have to grab that!
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Re: wolfking's roulette to end all roulettes v. Finals Round 2 Results!
« Reply #1105 on: June 01, 2016, 02:31:43 PM »
Finals Round 2 Results!

Matchup 1 - bl5150 vs TAC

Dyscordia - Dreamcatcher Tree/The Empty Room vs Project Aegis - Angel in the Ashes

bl5150 - Dyscordia - Dreamcatcher Tree/The Empty Room

This was a really interesting song, and it caught my attention right away.  After an awkward King Diamondeque intro things kick in nicely and I found this an interesting submission from Brent, with growls and all and just an overall dark and evil vibe.  The variety of vocal styles was excellent and the clean high vocals which seem to have a lot of King Diamond influence also was really solid.  This song didn't get old and was actually easy to keep listening too because even though it sparked my interest right away, there was still lots to discover each listen.  Definitely something that I could see listening too and getting into.  Really liked it.  Also to show the strength, I only just noticed while writing this up that there is no guitar solo, didn't look for it, that's good.

Appeal of Style - 9.0
Instrumentation and Vox - 9.0
Structure and Songwriting - 9.0
Replay Value - 9.0
Would I Purchase - 9.0

Score - 9.0


TAC - Project Aegis - Angel in the Ashes

So here we have one of these all star tracks raising money for stuff.  I'm not normally a fan of these because it's normally just a track or two and I wouldn't see myself ever listening to it as I like the full length thing.  These one off charity projects are normally just so cheest IMO.  Nevertheless, this was okay but not spectacular.  Decent power metal and well written enough, but didn't blow my socks off.  The chorus was nice, but wasn't big on the female vocals.  Rob Rock was a nice get and the solo was well done although I actually think it was a bit overdone for the style of the song.  Would I purchase gets the first ten by default, because I couldn't find the track from my normal sources so purchased the mp3 from bandcamp haha.

Appeal of Style - 9.0
Instrumentation and Vox - 8.0
Structure and Songwriting - 7.5
Replay Value - 7.0
Would I Purchase - 10.0

Score - 8.3

Brent wins this one with a much more interesting and original track.

bl5150 - 9.5
Tac - 8.3



Matchup 2 - Dr. DTVT vs Big Hath

Omnium Gatherum - The Second Flame vs Ice Age - Perpetual Child

Big Hath - Omonium Gatherum - The Second Flame

What an interesting and somewhat original band.  At first I was taken aback by the more commercial and more power metal style mixed with a gruff Dan Swano type growl.  I hear a lot of Swano in this and especially the cleans too.  Once I got my head around this, I really liked it, everyting about it seemed to work so well together and was one of the songs I kept coming back too.  Love the melodic solo too and just the straightforward structure but really well performed and put together.  Will check more of this band.

Appeal of Style - 9.0
Instrumentation and Vox - 9.0
Structure and Songwriting - 9.0
Replay Value - 9.0
Would I Purchase - 9.0

Score - 9.0


Dr DTVT - Ice Age - Perpetual Child

This was a tough song for me.  Everthing here is good, really good, but for some reason, just didn't hold my interest as much as some of the other songs.  Love the solo in the intro, well done and the whole instrumental aspect of this band is stellar.  I think it was the singer that I wasn't too keen on to be honest, but the more I listened the more he grew on me and the chorus grew on me too.  I think though it was teh only thing holding it back just that little bit.  Still a great song, and I did enjoy it each time.

Appeal of Style - 9.0
Instrumentation and Vox - 8.0
Structure and Songwriting - 9.0
Replay Value - 8.5
Would I Purchase - 8.0

Score - 8.5

Big Hath just edges this head to head with a wonderful dose of original melodic death metal.

Big Hath - 9.5
Dr. DTVT - 8.5



Matchup 3 - Evermind vs jjrock88

Amadeus Awad's Eon - Incarnation vs Killer Dwarfs - Dirty Weapons

Evermind - Amadeus Awad's Eon - Incarnation

Here's another one of these all star style of projects and since doing this roulette can't believe how many of these things actually float around.  Seems like this is only from an EP or something which is a bit of a turn off but whatever.  Nevertheless, what we have on offer is some really cool heavy prog in the egyptian and middle eastern vein which works for me.  Then the voice comes in and of course I recognize it right away.  The shred on this too is really impressive, and love he the solos keep popping up.  As the song went on, I like the change in style and the second half was really cool.  Allen is the perfect voice for this sort of thing at around the 3 minute mark.  Surprisingly I hear Amanda Sommerville come in who works really well too and sounds great.  Good track, definitely want to hear the whole EP.

Appeal of Style - 9.0
Instrumentation and Vox - 9.0
Structure and Songwriting - 9.0
Replay Value - 8.5
Would I Purchase - 8.5

Score - 8.8


jjrock88 - Killer Dwarfs - Dirty Weapons

Another staple Jason submission and again we have a solid tune.  This didn't blow me away, but it was a good listen.  Nice vocals, well performed and a melodic and catchy chorus.  Not much more to say as this was a great song but perhaps just not as original and interesting as Everminds submission

Appeal of Style - 8.5
Instrumentation and Vox - 8.5
Structure and Songwriting - 9.0
Replay Value - 8.5
Would I Purchase - 8.5

Score - 8.6

Ruslan just takes this one out.  The style, the solos and Russ gave it the edge

Evermind - 9.3
jjrock88 - 8.6



Matchup 4 - jingle.boy vs lowdz

Shaft of Steel - Drive vs Reign of Fury - Faustian Mastery

First off, Chad sent a bonus band in WarMachine and the song Eye For An Eye, this was one of the two Canadian bands on offer with the bonus bands.  I'm not gonna go into detail because Shaft of Steel is what I really want to focus on, but this WarMachine was fucking excellent too, great solid riff, tough vocals, really liked it, a solid 9 indeed.

jingle.boy - Shaft of Steel - Drive

When I saw the band name, I though Chad was sending me some sort of Manowar style metal band haha, interesting name indeed but what I got I didn't expect.  This literally blew me away, I fucking love it.  Havne't really had much of this style sent in this roulette, but this is how good AOR should be done, and this sort of quality has been missing in the genre for a couple of years now, so it was good to hear this.  I took me back twn years when I got into the genre and the song instantly made me nostalgic and took me back to various points in my life where this style reflected with.  This even has a strong Work of Art vibe which was surprising since Chad isn't really a fan.  I see Dennis Ward is involved and you can certainly hear him in the background.  Love the vocals, love the melodies, love the simplicity of it, perfect melodic rock.  It's a shame that this is only from an EP too, hopefully we hear more from this band, Chad knocked this one out of the park.  The only thing I knocked a point off was the the chorus could have been cut in half without losing the effect.


Appeal of Style - 9.5
Instrumentation and Vox - 9.5
Structure and Songwriting - 9.0
Replay Value - 9.5
Would I Purchase - 9.5

Score - 9.4


lowdz - Reign of Fury - Faustian Mastery

Here's some nice thrash metal.  I see this is only a few years old, so these guys do well honing in on old school Metallica, Anthrax and bands like that.  Nice solid riffing here and the melodies are right out of the Metallica handbook, but that's cool.  Love the chorus, very melodic and a nice change of pace.  Great guitars and the lead work was really nice.  For a 9 minute song it didn't overstay its welcome and was great to listen too each time.  Didn't blow me away but a great track.

Appeal of Style - 8.5
Instrumentation and Vox - 9.0
Structure and Songwriting - 8.5
Replay Value - 9.0
Would I Purchase - 8.5

Score - 8.7

Paul put up a great song, but Chad just blew this one away.

jingle.boy - 9.9
lowdz - 8.7




1. bl5150 - 62.3 + 9.5 = 71.8
2. Dr. DTVT - 62.2 + 8.5 = 70.7
3. Big Hath - 61.1 + 9.5 = 70.6
4. TAC - 60.6 + 8.3 = 68.9
5. Evermind - 60.5 + 9.3 = 69.8
6. jingle.boy - 59.1 + 9.9 = 69.0
7. lowdz - 58.9 + 8.7 = 67.6
8. jjrock88 - 58.8 + 8.6 = 67.4

New leaderboard heading into round 3 of the finals

1. bl5150 - 71.8
2. Dr. DTVT - 70.7
3. Big Hath - 70.6
4. Evermind - 69.8
5. jingle.boy - 69.0

6. TAC - 68.9
7. lowdz - 67.6
8. jjrock88 - 67.4

Sorry Tim, what can I say, too close.  Chad sneaks through and takes 5th spot on the leader boards and gets to play on.

So here's the matchups for Round 3 of Finals;

bl5150 vs - Evermind
Dr. DTVT vs Big Hath

And Chad gets to play but no bonus point opportunity.  big thanks to Jason, Paul and Tim for being part of this, loved having you guys on board.

So one band, but send me two songs from this band.  Doesn't have to be the same album, lineup, no restrictions just two tracks from the one artist.

Go!

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Ouch.. OK. Thanks for having me. Dammit Chad!!

Well, at least he's used to um..playing with himself! ;D
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So you could theoretically send Eyes of a Stranger and Running Backwards (or any other laughably bad Tate song) in the same round. This should be fun.
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So you could theoretically send Eyes of a Stranger and Running Backwards (or any other laughably bad Tate song) in the same round. This should be fun.

Hmmmm.......yep, I'd accept that, only because FU has the Ryche name on it.  I wouldn't accept something like The Stranger or something under the O:M name.

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Ouch.. OK. Thanks for having me. Dammit Chad!!

Well, at least he's used to um..playing with his Shaft of Steel ! ;D

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More like shaft of banana peel! ;D
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Next round should be interesting!  :hat

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Not really! :lol
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That Shaft of Steel sure does sound like Work of Art :lol   No need for Shaft of Steel to rip them off - they do a good enough job ripping off their own songs :neverusethis:


Any guide on what weighting the first 9 rounds will have in any final score for those that make the grand final?
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Any guide on what weighting the first 9 rounds will have in any final score for those that make the grand final?

For the two that make the final, I will be continuing along the same paths.  The score that you end up on after this round will carry over.  If you're first and half a whole point lead, than that's your advantage.

This round I'll be rating the songs the same way and taking an average of the two songs to get your round 9 score. It may be more brief as some the criteria will obviously carry over being the same artist and such, but whatever.

The final EP round will again have the songs rated individually and then an average of the whole thing.  That final score will go onto your existing score resulting in the winner.  No bonus points in the EP final round either.

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Thanks Wolfster for having me!!!

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Thanks Wolfster for having me!!!

Of course bro!  :metal

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Well, at least he's used to um..playing with himself! ;D

:lol

Good to see I'm in the Top 4 fair and square. I planned to use Amadeus Awad for the double round, but had to use it here just to be sure I'll avoid elimination. Now I've got to find something for Round 9, but it's unlikely I can reach Top 2 anyway.