Author Topic: Amazing Albums Followed Up By Terrible Albums  (Read 9696 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline kaos2900

  • Posts: 2968
  • Gender: Male
Amazing Albums Followed Up By Terrible Albums
« on: April 08, 2016, 11:52:08 AM »
Going through the Skid Row discography and the distance in quality between Slave to the Grind and Subhuman Race is huge. Got me to thinking of what other examples there are of great albums followed by crap albums.

Offline Tomislav95

  • Posts: 6309
  • Gender: Male
Re: Amazing Albums Followed Up By Terrible Albums
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2016, 12:00:00 PM »
First example that came to my mind was Iron Maiden - after flawless Seventh Son and Somewhere in Time they released their, IMO, two worst albums... and then Bruce left and there were two okay albums with Blaze Bayley but those were nowhere close to those earlier albums.
...the years just pass like trains
I wave but they don't slow down...

Offline Architeuthis

  • Posts: 3781
  • Gender: Male
Re: Amazing Albums Followed Up By Terrible Albums
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2016, 12:07:35 PM »
When BOSTON released WALK ON in 1994 I was floored at how good it was! Their next album CORPORATE AMERICA was utter crap and uninspired. I still love Boston though..
You can do a lot in a lifetime if you don't burn out too fast, you can make the most of the distance, first you need endurance first you've got to last....... NP

Offline Train of Naught

  • I sympathize, with a cockroach
  • Posts: 8008
  • Gender: Male
  • .....and a cockroach
Re: Amazing Albums Followed Up By Terrible Albums
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2016, 12:13:31 PM »
Arctic Monkeys - Humbug ---> Suck It and See (what the fuck?)
What makes it even more disappointing is the fact that this was an awesome run of three albums. Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not > Favourite Worst Nightmare > Humbug, constantly changing their sound slightly but still seemed solid throughout, then Suck It and See just came as a big punch to the face.


Linkin Park - Meteora ---> Minutes to Midnight

Shinedown - Amaryllis ---> Threat to Survival
people on this board are actual music fans who developed taste in music and not casual listeners who are following current fashion trends and listening to only current commercial hits.

Offline ozzy554

  • Posts: 1457
  • Gender: Male
Re: Amazing Albums Followed Up By Terrible Albums
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2016, 12:28:15 PM »
I totally agree with Iron maiden seventh son - No Prayer for the dying

Black Sabbath Mob rules - Born again.

Do you read Sutter Cane?

Offline jjrock88

  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 14925
  • Gender: Male
Re: Amazing Albums Followed Up By Terrible Albums
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2016, 04:03:28 PM »
QR Promised Land - Hear in the Now Frontier

Big downgrade

Offline chaossystem

  • We're on to your agenda, the dead-end road to nowhere.
  • Posts: 1592
  • Gender: Male
  • Chapters unfinished, fading
Re: Amazing Albums Followed Up By Terrible Albums
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2016, 04:34:29 PM »
AC/DC following their very good Flick of the Switch with the nearly unlistenable Fly on the Wall.

And speaking of WALLS: Pink Floyd withy The Final Cut after the brilliance of The Wall.
I can't stop the world from turning around, or the pull of the moon on the tide, but I don't believe that we're in this alone, I believe we're along for the ride...

Online TAC

  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 74659
  • Gender: Male
  • Arthritic Metal Horns
Re: Amazing Albums Followed Up By Terrible Albums
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2016, 04:37:55 PM »
You are right on Fly On The Wall. That album sucked!



I'll take The Final Cut over The Wall though. I know. It's me.
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

Offline jjrock88

  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 14925
  • Gender: Male
Re: Amazing Albums Followed Up By Terrible Albums
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2016, 04:48:27 PM »
You guys dont like Fly on the Wall?  I thought it was pretty solid

Online TAC

  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 74659
  • Gender: Male
  • Arthritic Metal Horns
Re: Amazing Albums Followed Up By Terrible Albums
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2016, 04:57:18 PM »
I love the title track. But that album is brutally bad. The production was horrific. Thought it when it came out.
The tour was awesome though!!

Blow Up Your Video was 100x better!
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

Offline TheCountOfNYC

  • Posts: 5417
  • Gender: Male
Re: Amazing Albums Followed Up By Terrible Albums
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2016, 04:58:00 PM »
The albums I'm listing aren't necessarily terrible. Just nowhere near as good as their predecessors.

Metallica: Black Album - Load/Reload/St. Anger
Avenged Sevenfold: Nightmare - Hail to the King
Dream Theater: Octavarium - Systematic Chaos, A Dramatic Turn of Events - DT12
Shinedown: Amaryllis - Threat to Survival
Halestorm: Strange Case Of... - Into the Wild Life
Van Halen: 1984 - 5150/OU812/For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge/Balance/Van Halen III (I hate Van Halen with Hagar and Cherone)
Red Hot Chili Peppers: Blood Sugar Sex Magik - One Hot Minute
Sum 41: Chuck - Underclass Hero
« Last Edit: April 08, 2016, 09:06:37 PM by TheCountOfNYC »
People figured out that the white thing that comes out of cows' titties could be drunk, and the relation between sweet desires and women's bellies growing up for 9 months. It can't be THAT hard to figure out how a trumpet works.”

-MirrorMask

Offline Nekov

  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 10719
  • Gender: Male
Re: Amazing Albums Followed Up By Terrible Albums
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2016, 04:59:16 PM »
Dredg's The Pariah, the Parrot, the Delusion is a fantastic album but Chuckles and Mr. Squeezy was a huge step down. Ariich will disagree with this statement.

Snow is probably Spock's Beard best album while Feel Euphoria is something I can barely listen to.
When Ginobili gets hot, I get hot in my pants. 

Online TAC

  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 74659
  • Gender: Male
  • Arthritic Metal Horns
Re: Amazing Albums Followed Up By Terrible Albums
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2016, 05:02:22 PM »

Red Hot Chili Peppers: Blood Sugar Sex Magic - One Hot Minute
 

One Hot Minute is awesome. And I'm not even into the RHCP!
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

Offline KevShmev

  • EZBoard Elder
  • *****
  • Posts: 41970
  • Gender: Male
Re: Amazing Albums Followed Up By Terrible Albums
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2016, 05:13:09 PM »
The first two I thought of were:

QR Promised Land - Hear in the Now Frontier
 

Dredg's The Pariah, the Parrot, the Delusion is a fantastic album but Chuckles and Mr. Squeezy was a huge step down.

Offline King Postwhore

  • Couch Potato
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 59472
  • Gender: Male
  • Take that Beethoven, you deaf bastard!!
Re: Amazing Albums Followed Up By Terrible Albums
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2016, 05:32:27 PM »
Hear In The Now Frontier is excellent you turds.  :lol


Sound Awake great, Asymmetry, not so much.
I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'.” - Bob Newhart
So wait, we're spelling it wrong and king is spelling it right? What is going on here? :lol -- BlobVanDam
"Oh, I am definitely a jackass!" - TAC

Offline Kotowboy

  • Yes THAT Kotowboy.
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 28561
  • Gender: Male
Re: Amazing Albums Followed Up By Terrible Albums
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2016, 05:39:17 PM »
Therapy? - Never Apologise, Never Explain - one of their top 5 albums. An amazing onslaught from start to finish. Really great production.

Followed by

One Cure Fits All - Weak songs. Terrible production. Sloppy playing.

Offline Crow

  • Holy Guide of the 4/10
  • DTF.org Member
  • *
  • Posts: 26771
  • Gender: Female
  • tdjghjjkhliòujoàupougjyufkuyrkuyt
Re: Amazing Albums Followed Up By Terrible Albums
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2016, 05:46:48 PM »
Pain of Salvation: BE -> Scarsick

subjective depending on how much you like BE I guess but, uhh, yeah......

Offline DragonAttack

  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 4173
Re: Amazing Albums Followed Up By Terrible Albums
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2016, 06:33:49 PM »
Styx-Pieces of Eight--> Cornerstone,  Paradise Theater--> Kilroy Was Here
The Beatles, Abbey Road-->Let It Be
Jethro Tull, Minstrel in the Gallery-->Too Old Too Rock n Roll...
Yes, Close To The Edge-->Tales from Topographic Oceans

the all timer...

Queen, The Game (as far as sales and hits)-->Hot Space

not a studio follow up, but Frampton Comes Alive-->I'm In You

<I liked most of Hear In The Now Frontier, and all of Van Hagar>

...going along with Dragon Attack's Queen thread has been like taking a free class in Queen knowledge. Where else are you gonna find info like that?!

Offline KevShmev

  • EZBoard Elder
  • *****
  • Posts: 41970
  • Gender: Male
Re: Amazing Albums Followed Up By Terrible Albums
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2016, 06:45:12 PM »
Hear In The Now Frontier is excellent you turds.  :lol


If by excellent, you mean pretty forgettable, then I agree.  :biggrin:

Offline jjrock88

  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 14925
  • Gender: Male
Re: Amazing Albums Followed Up By Terrible Albums
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2016, 07:42:14 PM »
Hear In The Now Frontier is excellent you turds.  :lol


If by excellent, you mean pretty forgettable, then I agree.  :biggrin:

Or average, kind of decent, not bad, ok, meh

Offline Mladen

  • Posts: 15236
  • Gender: Male
Re: Amazing Albums Followed Up By Terrible Albums
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2016, 07:28:52 AM »
Iron Maiden comes to mind with the transition from Seventh son to No prayer. Even though No prayer isn't really terrible, it's still my 2nd favorite of theirs, whereas Seventh son is a masterpiece.

Offline romdrums

  • Posts: 4556
Re: Amazing Albums Followed Up By Terrible Albums
« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2016, 09:21:45 AM »
Marillion: Marbles->Somewhere Else
Yes: Going for the One -> Tormato
Though we live in trying times, we're the ones who have to try. -Neil Peart, 1952-2020.

There is a fundamental difference between filtered facts and firehosed opinions. -Stadler.

Offline ariich

  • Roulette Supervillain
  • Global Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 28045
  • Gender: Male
  • sexin' you later
Re: Amazing Albums Followed Up By Terrible Albums
« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2016, 09:38:34 AM »
Dredg's The Pariah, the Parrot, the Delusion is a fantastic album but Chuckles and Mr. Squeezy was a huge step down. Ariich will disagree with this statement.
Correct. :lol

I'm not even sure I can think of anything that fits the title of this thread. I agree with some of the ones posted being clear step downs, but "amazing" to "terrible", no way (for the ones I know). There's bound to be something though.

Ariich is a freak, or somehow has more hours in the day than everyone else.
I be am boner inducing.

Offline KevShmev

  • EZBoard Elder
  • *****
  • Posts: 41970
  • Gender: Male
Re: Amazing Albums Followed Up By Terrible Albums
« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2016, 09:41:35 AM »
I think Queen following up with The Game with Hot Space was a severe drop-off (although the Flash Gordon soundtrack is in the middle there). 

Offline ariich

  • Roulette Supervillain
  • Global Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 28045
  • Gender: Male
  • sexin' you later
Re: Amazing Albums Followed Up By Terrible Albums
« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2016, 09:45:30 AM »
Ok, these are the closest I can think of for good-bad. None of the first albums I would say are amazing, but they're all strong enough but followed by stuff I didn't really like at all.

Metallica: Reload -> St Anger
Guns N Roses: Use Your Illusion II -> The Spaghetti Incident
Machine Head: Burn Your Eyes -> The More Things Change
Helloween: Keeper of the Seven Keys part II -> Pink Bubbles Go Ape
Ulver: Kveldssanger -> Nattens madrigal
Devin Townsend: Accelerated Evolution -> Devlab (this probably doesn't really count as Devlab was a weird experiement of sorts)

I'll think about amazing-decent as well.
« Last Edit: April 09, 2016, 10:05:30 AM by ariich »

Ariich is a freak, or somehow has more hours in the day than everyone else.
I be am boner inducing.

Online SoundscapeMN

  • Posts: 6480
  • Gender: Male
Re: Amazing Albums Followed Up By Terrible Albums
« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2016, 09:57:49 AM »
Russian Circles - Enter -> Station
Murder By Death - Who Will Survive, and What Will Be Left of Them? -> In bocca al lupo
Porcupine Tree - Deadwing -> Fear of a Blank Planet
Sufjan Stevens - The Age of Adz -> Carrie & Lowell
Transatlantic - Bridge Across Forever -> The Whirlwind
Warpaint - The Fool -> Warpaint
Between the Buried and Me - Colors -> The Great Misdirect
East of the Wall - Farmer's Almanac -> Ressentiment
Cynic - Focus -> Traced in Air
King's X - Manic Moonlight -> Black Like Sunday
The Antlers - Hospice -> Burst Apart
Umphrey's McGee - Mantis -> Death By Stereo
Toy Matinee - Toy Matinee -> Meanwhile (3rd Matinee)

Offline ariich

  • Roulette Supervillain
  • Global Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 28045
  • Gender: Male
  • sexin' you later
Re: Amazing Albums Followed Up By Terrible Albums
« Reply #26 on: April 09, 2016, 10:04:59 AM »
Ok, my excellent-decent list. Similar to my last post, I like the latter albums well enough, I just don't find them particularly great and a big drop off from the former album. Interesting that most declines in quality I've found to be more gradual.

The Flower Kings: Paradox Hotel -> Sum of No Evil
Opeth: Blackwater Park -> Deliverance
Porcupine Tree: Signify -> Metanoia (as with Devy in my previous post, probably doesn't really count)
Queen: The Game -> Hot Space
Ulver: Perdition City -> Lyckantropen Themes/Svidd Neger
Angra: Temple of Shadows -> Aurora Consurgens
The Antlers: Hospice -> Burst Apart
Evergrey: The Inner Circle -> Monday Morning Apocalypse
In Flames: Reroute to Remain -> Soundtrack to Your Escape
Metallica: Load -> Reload (combined with my previous post, this shows the speed of their downfall :lol )
Queensrÿche: Promised Land -> Hear in the Now Frontier
Radiohead: OK Computer -> Kid A
Return to Forever: Romantic Warrior -> Musicmagic

Ariich is a freak, or somehow has more hours in the day than everyone else.
I be am boner inducing.

Offline Crow

  • Holy Guide of the 4/10
  • DTF.org Member
  • *
  • Posts: 26771
  • Gender: Female
  • tdjghjjkhliòujoàupougjyufkuyrkuyt
Re: Amazing Albums Followed Up By Terrible Albums
« Reply #27 on: April 09, 2016, 10:12:05 AM »
Between the Buried and Me - Colors -> The Great Misdirect
tbh, for me it'd be more TGM ->Future Sequence  :lol
East of the Wall - Farmer's Almanac -> Ressentiment
honestly this just makes me want Farmer's Almanac more, since I dig Ressentiment quite a bit

Offline Kotowboy

  • Yes THAT Kotowboy.
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 28561
  • Gender: Male
Re: Amazing Albums Followed Up By Terrible Albums
« Reply #28 on: April 09, 2016, 10:29:10 AM »
Whilst I do think Saint Anger is a "worse" album than Reload - which I love...

Saint Anger is a fantastic album when you're in the mood for no nonsense pure energy heavy music.

I :heart Saint Anger.

Offline El Barto

  • Rascal Atheistic Pig
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 30727
  • Bad Craziness
Re: Amazing Albums Followed Up By Terrible Albums
« Reply #29 on: April 09, 2016, 10:31:42 AM »
Defenders>>>Turbo  Priest did this a lot, actually. Their tendency to roll with the times yielded some real winners and some real losers.
Diary>>>Bark at the Moon
Argument, the presentation of reasonable views, never makes headway against conviction, and conviction takes no part in argument because it knows.
E.F. Benson

Online TAC

  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 74659
  • Gender: Male
  • Arthritic Metal Horns
Re: Amazing Albums Followed Up By Terrible Albums
« Reply #30 on: April 09, 2016, 10:33:49 AM »
BATM is awesome!  I was actually  going to post BATM>>The Ultimate Sin
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

Offline chaossystem

  • We're on to your agenda, the dead-end road to nowhere.
  • Posts: 1592
  • Gender: Male
  • Chapters unfinished, fading
Re: Amazing Albums Followed Up By Terrible Albums
« Reply #31 on: April 09, 2016, 10:38:53 AM »
How about Black Sabbath following the very good Mob Rules with Born Again?

That album should have been, and been called "STILLBORN" or "BORN DEAD!"
I can't stop the world from turning around, or the pull of the moon on the tide, but I don't believe that we're in this alone, I believe we're along for the ride...

Offline BlobVanDam

  • Future Boy
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 38940
  • Gender: Male
  • Transform and rock out!
Re: Amazing Albums Followed Up By Terrible Albums
« Reply #32 on: April 09, 2016, 10:58:32 AM »
Diary>>>Bark at the Moon

While I think there was a noticeable dropoff from Rhoads to BATM, I wouldn't call BATM terrible by any means. I'd call it a dropoff from amazing to good.

Most examples I can think of have such a long span of time inbetween (and with a major change in lineup and general musical landscape) that I'm not I'd count them for the intent of the thread.

Here's a quick list of mine. This is more like "great albums followed up less than good albums", but that doesn't mean I think the latter album is always terrible, just a huge drop off from the former.

Crazy Lixx - New Religion > Riot Avenue
Dio - The Last in Line > Sacred Heart
Journey - Frontiers > Raised on Radio
Pantera - Vulgar Display of Power > Far Beyond Driven
Survivor - Vital Signs > When Seconds Count
Only King could mis-spell a LETTER.
Yep. I think the only party in the MP/DT situation that hasn't moved on is DTF.

Offline Nekov

  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 10719
  • Gender: Male
Re: Amazing Albums Followed Up By Terrible Albums
« Reply #33 on: April 09, 2016, 11:07:42 AM »
Transatlantic - Bridge Across Forever -> The Whirlwind



I mean, I get you might not like The Whirlwind but saying it's a terrible album it's a bit of a stretch.


Queen: The Game -> Hot Space was one of the first things that came to mind but while I really like The Game I don't think it's an amazing album.
When Ginobili gets hot, I get hot in my pants. 

Offline Evermind

  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 16326
  • Gender: Male
Re: Amazing Albums Followed Up By Terrible Albums
« Reply #34 on: April 09, 2016, 11:08:28 AM »
Here's a quick list of mine. This is more like "great albums followed up less than good albums", but that doesn't mean I think the latter album is always terrible, just a huge drop off from the former.

Well, if we're going this way, I've got a few more recent and not that recent examples too:

Allen/Lande: The Showdown - The Great Divide
Blackmore's Night: Secret Voyage - Autumn Sky
Blind Guardian: A Night at the Opera - A Twist at the Myth (and to a lesser extent, At the Edge of Time - Beyond the Red Mirror)
Rainbow: Long Live Rock'n'Roll - Down to Earth (I'm biased on that count)
Scorpions: Humanity Hour 1 - Sting in the Tail
Sonata Arctica: The Days of Grays - Stones Grow Her Name

The following albums are not terrible, but not that good either in my opinion.
This first band is Soen very cool swingy jazz fusion kinda stuff.