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Re: The (New?) Official Yes Thread
« Reply #105 on: December 08, 2009, 07:22:44 PM »
They just announced a new slew of dates, including Dallas.  The reviews from their last aborted tour were pretty bad.  Hopefully, they've regrouped during the time off.  Regardless, anybody who'd pass up an opportunity to see Howe and Squire should have their eyes and ears gouged. 

I don't know, it's really temping to see them, but Yes just isn't Yes without Jon.

Maybe I'd feel less bitter about this if they weren't marketing this as a Yes tour, but rather a Yes tribute tour. I don't know..
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Re: The (New?) Official Yes Thread
« Reply #106 on: December 08, 2009, 10:33:19 PM »
Three of the five members are longtime Yes players, including Chris Squire, the only person to play on every Yes album.  Not even Jon Anderson holds that honor, and the one album he's not on, Drama, is great.

Yes has a long history of rotating players.  Three guitarists, five or six keyboard players depending on how you count them, two drummers, and two or three singers depending on how you count.  But Squire-Howe-White have been the driving force for a long time now, moreso than Anderson by a lot.  Oliver Wakeman is no slouch on the keyboards, either; he clearly inherited his daddy's talent.  It almost doesn't matter who sings because the music will be great, but Benoit David sounds a lot like Jon, some say almost exactly like him (though I wouldn't go that far), and it's obvious why he was chosen.

Most people who have seen Yes on this tour have said it was a great show.  But then, most people who've gone to see them are the ones willing to see them without Jon Anderson.  I understand the "Yes just isn't Yes without Jon" attitude, but I don't share it.  Yes is far more than any one person.

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Re: The (New?) Official Yes Thread
« Reply #107 on: December 09, 2009, 05:05:29 AM »
Three of the five members are longtime Yes players, including Chris Squire, the only person to play on every Yes album.  Not even Jon Anderson holds that honor, and the one album he's not on, Drama, is great.

Yes has a long history of rotating players.  Three guitarists, five or six keyboard players depending on how you count them, two drummers, and two or three singers depending on how you count.  But Squire-Howe-White have been the driving force for a long time now, moreso than Anderson by a lot.  Oliver Wakeman is no slouch on the keyboards, either; he clearly inherited his daddy's talent.  It almost doesn't matter who sings because the music will be great, but Benoit David sounds a lot like Jon, some say almost exactly like him (though I wouldn't go that far), and it's obvious why he was chosen.

Most people who have seen Yes on this tour have said it was a great show.  But then, most people who've gone to see them are the ones willing to see them without Jon Anderson.  I understand the "Yes just isn't Yes without Jon" attitude, but I don't share it.  Yes is far more than any one person.

I know how volatile Yes is with it's members but not seeing Jon Anderson is like missing half the show to me. His voice and the way he pantomimes things and just the energy he bring to his performances are unmatchable to me.

I mean, I'm still probably going to end up going to see them as long as the tickets are affordable and the venue is close by, but I'm still going to be upset about Jon not being with them.
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Re: The (New?) Official Yes Thread
« Reply #108 on: December 09, 2009, 08:15:37 AM »
No question that Jon adds a lot, but to me he's just another one of the "players".  In prog, with such a high percentage of the overall run time being instrumental, I'm much more into the keyboards and guitars (and bass and drums) than the vocals.  Also perhaps because I'm a player and not much of a singer.

Jon was an amazing vocalist, but he just doesn't have it anymore.  The rest of the band has chosen to move on, though I guess I can see why the fans are having a harder time with it.

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Re: The (New?) Official Yes Thread
« Reply #109 on: December 09, 2009, 08:18:34 AM »
Three of the five members are longtime Yes players, including Chris Squire, the only person to play on every Yes album.  Not even Jon Anderson holds that honor, and the one album he's not on, Drama, is great.

Yes has a long history of rotating players.  Three guitarists, five or six keyboard players depending on how you count them, two drummers, and two or three singers depending on how you count.  But Squire-Howe-White have been the driving force for a long time now, moreso than Anderson by a lot.  Oliver Wakeman is no slouch on the keyboards, either; he clearly inherited his daddy's talent.  It almost doesn't matter who sings because the music will be great, but Benoit David sounds a lot like Jon, some say almost exactly like him (though I wouldn't go that far), and it's obvious why he was chosen.

Most people who have seen Yes on this tour have said it was a great show.  But then, most people who've gone to see them are the ones willing to see them without Jon Anderson.  I understand the "Yes just isn't Yes without Jon" attitude, but I don't share it.  Yes is far more than any one person.

I know how volatile Yes is with it's members but not seeing Jon Anderson is like missing half the show to me. His voice and the way he pantomimes things and just the energy he bring to his performances are unmatchable to me.

I mean, I'm still probably going to end up going to see them as long as the tickets are affordable and the venue is close by, but I'm still going to be upset about Jon not being with them.
In some ways, seeing them without Jon is a bonus since they're now playing songs they never would have with him.  Just seeing Machine Messiah and Temus Fugit make it all worthwhile. 

   Regardless, anybody who'd pass up an opportunity to see Howe and Squire should have their eyes and ears gouged. 

Considering how ugly Steve Howe is, I am pretty sure passing up the opportunity to see him would actually be doing your eyes a favor.  :biggrin: :biggrin:
Valid point.  Truly one of the ugliest men in the industry. 

Edit.  I don't know if it's fair to say that Jon doesn't have it anymore.  He sounded great the last time I saw them.  This is strictly a medical situation.
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Re: The (New?) Official Yes Thread
« Reply #110 on: December 09, 2009, 12:07:38 PM »
The dude's in his 60's.  I'd love to believe he'll go on for another 20 years, but it's just a fact that the body takes longer to recover from illness the older you get, doesn't always recover fully anyway, and he got taken down hard.  Also, he put Yes on hold so he could go do his solo tour and mini-tour-thing with School of Rock, meanwhile the rest of Yes was ready to tour again and hopefully even work on new material.  Then he got sick.  He now claims he's still too sick to tour, but not too sick to do more of his solo shows, because those aren't as stressful.  The others got tired of waiting for him, found another singer, and went on tour anyway.

All of this has caused possibly irreparable damage to relations within the band.  The others consider Yes a band, with each member having a say in the decisions made.  Anderson clearly sees himself as the leader; in his mind, Yes is his band, and he requested that the guys not tour without him.  He said it wouldn't be fair to the fans who would be expecting Yes, when it wouldn't really be Yes because he wasn't there.  Then he went and did some more solo shows.

It's been years now.  Their last album was eight years ago.  If Jon truly wants to get well, well enough to tour again with Yes, he'll wait and rest and hopefully recover.  I understand that he's a performer and can't resist the call of the footlights, but with his advancing age and failing health, he cannot have it both ways, and honestly he's just being a selfish ass about it.  They're touring; he's literally playing with himself.

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Re: The (New?) Official Yes Thread
« Reply #111 on: December 09, 2009, 01:25:43 PM »
Having never seen them Live myself, for me it's more about seeing the classic lineup (or as close to it as possible)

But like I said, if the tour comes near LI or NYC and the tickets are reasonable, I'll be there. Like El Barto said, it'd be a shame to miss out on Howe and Squire
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Re: The (New?) Official Yes Thread
« Reply #112 on: December 09, 2009, 01:54:29 PM »
The 2010 tour has 2 dates in NYC:

FEBRUARY
Date Day City Venue
4 THU Concord, NH Capitol Center for the Arts
5 FRI Jim Thorpe, PA Penn's Peak
6 SAT Washington, DC Warner Theatre
9 TUE Boston, MA House of Blues
10 WED Montclair, NJ Wellmont Theatre
12 FRI Atlantic City, NJ Tropicana Casino & Resort
13 SAT New York, NY The Town Hall
14 SUN New York, NY The Town Hall
17 WED Cleveland, OH House of Blues
18 THU Chicago, IL House of Blues
20 SAT Detroit, MI Sound Board at Motor City Casino
23 TUE Dallas, TX House of Blues
24 WED Houston, TX House of Blues
25 THU New Orleans, LA House of Blues
27 SAT Orlando, FL Sea World Orlando
28 SUN Boca Raton, FL Sunset Cove Amphitheater


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Re: The (New?) Official Yes Thread
« Reply #113 on: December 09, 2009, 01:57:27 PM »
What are the prices, and did they go on sale yet?
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Re: The (New?) Official Yes Thread
« Reply #114 on: December 09, 2009, 02:15:24 PM »
From The Town Hall website:

Date (Sat-Sun) Feb 13 & 14 at 8 pm 
Event AN EVENING WITH " YES" 
Description Yes are an English progressive rock band that formed in London in 1968. Their music uses complex arrangements, unusual time signatures, virtuoso musicianship, dramatic dynamic and metrical changes, a blend of musical styles, vocal harmonies, and a unique lyrical style. Despite the many changes to its lineup, the band has continued for nearly 40 years and retains a strong international following. 
Ticket Price  $85, $65 & $40 
How to Get Tickets  On sale on Ticketmaster on December 11, 2009
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Re: The (New?) Official Yes Thread
« Reply #115 on: December 09, 2009, 02:23:53 PM »
Thank you very much, Ludwig.
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Re: The (New?) Official Yes Thread
« Reply #116 on: January 04, 2010, 04:47:34 AM »
It's time for me to check out Drama. Wish me luck, I expect a damn good album, since I found Machine messiah absolutely awesome.  :biggrin:

Also, I must say that Quadrochosis' thread made me appreciate Relayer much more. Giving Sound chaser a spin a few days ago actually shocked me, because the chaotic feeling that used to annoy me earlier suddenly clicked and appealed to me. Now it's probably my 3rd favorite Yes album.  :)
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Re: The (New?) Official Yes Thread
« Reply #117 on: February 08, 2010, 09:09:44 AM »
I've become more familiar with Fragile and Close to the Edge and I like the songs more and more each time i listen to them.  My favorites from each are Heart of the Sunrise and And You and I.  After reading, it seems like The Yes Album should be my next stop, since it appears to be the first in the direction of Fragile and CTTE.

Further, Yes is one of the few rock bands that I know of that really uses dynamics as much as much as skill, emotion, and composition.  They really excel in all these areas without going too far in either.  This is, of course, based on my limited exposure so far.
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Re: The (New?) Official Yes Thread
« Reply #118 on: February 08, 2010, 10:45:27 AM »
Going to see Yes tonight in Northampton!  :metal :metal

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Re: The (New?) Official Yes Thread
« Reply #119 on: February 08, 2010, 11:44:59 AM »
I've become more familiar with Fragile and Close to the Edge and I like the songs more and more each time i listen to them.  My favorites from each are Heart of the Sunrise and And You and I.  After reading, it seems like The Yes Album should be my next stop, since it appears to be the first in the direction of Fragile and CTTE.

That would be one way to do it.  There is a progression to Yes' sound, but it's not linear; it swings back and forth a bit (and this is totally discounting the 80's band).  Going back to The Yes Album makes sense to do now before proceeding forward with Tales from Topographic Oceans because they started to get really, really out there for a while.  Or you could just plow forward anyway and catch The Yes Album later.

Further, Yes is one of the few rock bands that I know of that really uses dynamics as much as much as skill, emotion, and composition.  They really excel in all these areas without going too far in either.  This is, of course, based on my limited exposure so far.

They continue to use dynamics throughout their catalog.  They're not afraid to juxtapose louder and quieter sections, or even complete silence, for effect.  A lot of prog bands seem to think that everyone must be playing crazy complex stuff all the time.  Yes know when it's okay to dial it down a bit.

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Re: The (New?) Official Yes Thread
« Reply #120 on: February 08, 2010, 04:14:17 PM »
Has anyone who's seen them this leg have a setlist? I keep checking Fogotten Yesterdays but the site has been down. My show is Feb 13 and I'm trying to get a feel for what they are doing this time around.
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« Reply #121 on: February 08, 2010, 05:53:36 PM »
Going to see Yes tonight in Northampton!  :metal :metal
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« Reply #122 on: February 09, 2010, 07:35:45 PM »
Going to see Yes tonight in Northampton!  :metal :metal

How was it?  I'm probably passing on them again this year.

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Re: The (New?) Official Yes Thread
« Reply #123 on: February 11, 2010, 02:42:42 PM »
Going to see Yes tonight in Northampton!  :metal :metal

How was it? 

Yea man, don't leave us hanging!
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Re: The (New?) Official Yes Thread
« Reply #124 on: February 11, 2010, 03:32:09 PM »
Going to see Yes tonight in Northampton!  :metal :metal

How was it? 

Yea man, don't leave us hanging!

It was pretty good. You can tell age is really taking its toll on the members, because on a few occasions they seemed to be "off". Chris and Steve's vocals often drowned out Benoit's, who in general seemed to be quite low in the mix. However, overall Benoit was really great. The highlights of the night were And You And I, South Side of the Sky (was amazing when the middle section came with the harmonies), and Heart of the Sunrise. Was nice to see a few of the Drama tracks.

If you have money for a ticket and have never seen Yes, I would recommend going, because honestly, I don't see them lasting too much longer. Overall, pretty good show, but you can tell that they aren't very tight when it comes to some of the more technical rhythms. I'm glad I went. :)

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Re: The (New?) Official Yes Thread
« Reply #125 on: February 11, 2010, 04:34:43 PM »
Would you be able to provide a setlist (or as close to one as you can remember)?

Thanks!

Sounds like a good time, I'll be at the Feb 13th show.
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« Reply #126 on: February 11, 2010, 09:08:57 PM »
Would you be able to provide a setlist (or as close to one as you can remember)?

Thanks!

Sounds like a good time, I'll be at the Feb 13th show.

1. Firebird Suite
2. Siberian Khatru
3. I've Seen All Good People
4. Tempus Fugit
5. Onward
6. Astral Traveler/White Drum Solo
7. Yours Is No Disgrace
8. And You and I
9. Steve Howe Acoustic
10. Owner of a Lonely Heart
11. South Side of the Sky
12. Machine Messiah
13. Heart of the Sunrise
14. Roundabout

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15. Starship Trooper


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« Reply #127 on: February 11, 2010, 09:52:27 PM »
That's a very solid set.  Many of my favorites.  Glad you enjoyed the show.
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Re: The (New?) Official Yes Thread
« Reply #128 on: February 12, 2010, 12:26:06 AM »
Yea man, awesome list. Hope I get something cool like that. Thanks for posting!
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« Reply #129 on: February 12, 2010, 01:15:22 AM »
I hope they announce some dates on the west coast. I would love to see Yes finally.
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Re: The (New?) Official Yes Thread
« Reply #130 on: February 12, 2010, 10:53:43 AM »
I hope they announce some dates on the west coast. I would love to see Yes finally.

Well I heard that after this leg, Howe is doing some touring with his trio and then there may possibly be a new Yes record, so if that happens I'm sure there will be shows on the West Coast for you. =)
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Re: The (New?) Official Yes Thread
« Reply #131 on: February 13, 2010, 11:07:38 PM »
Just got back from the NYC show. They played the same set that ZBomber posted. It was an amazing show, and I'm glad I got to see so many classics, seeing as it was my first Yes concert.

Although I was secretly hoping for anything from Tales or Relayer.. =/

My only complaint was that the keyboards were mixed way too low so it was hard to heard Oliver at some points, but overall I had a great time. Just seeing Steve Howe alone is worth the door price.
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Re: The (New?) Official Yes Thread
« Reply #132 on: February 14, 2010, 07:03:51 AM »
Glad you finally got to see Yes.  No Tales or Relayer is a bit of a bummer, but any Yes is worth checking out.

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« Reply #133 on: February 14, 2010, 08:39:42 AM »

1. Firebird Suite
2. Siberian Khatru
3. I've Seen All Good People
4. Tempus Fugit
5. Onward
6. Astral Traveler/White Drum Solo
7. Yours Is No Disgrace
8. And You and I
9. Steve Howe Acoustic
10. Owner of a Lonely Heart
11. South Side of the Sky
12. Machine Messiah
13. Heart of the Sunrise
14. Roundabout

Encore:
15. Starship Trooper

Oh my god.  Near-perfect setlist.  All its missing is CTTE and Soon.

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« Reply #134 on: February 14, 2010, 08:51:15 AM »

1. Firebird Suite
2. Siberian Khatru
3. I've Seen All Good People
4. Tempus Fugit
5. Onward
6. Astral Traveler/White Drum Solo
7. Yours Is No Disgrace
8. And You and I
9. Steve Howe Acoustic
10. Owner of a Lonely Heart
11. South Side of the Sky
12. Machine Messiah
13. Heart of the Sunrise
14. Roundabout

Encore:
15. Starship Trooper

Oh my god.  Near-perfect setlist.  All its missing is CTTE and Soon.
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« Reply #135 on: February 14, 2010, 04:27:58 PM »
Can't complain about that set. Must have gone by very quickly...

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Re: The (New?) Official Yes Thread
« Reply #136 on: February 14, 2010, 07:35:06 PM »
Can't complain about that set. Must have gone by very quickly...

Yea, the 2.5 hours went by in about 10 minutes.
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Re: The (New?) Official Yes Thread
« Reply #137 on: February 15, 2010, 11:32:48 AM »
Close to the edge is missing, and I could use a track from TFTO, but oh well, the set is still great.  :tup

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Re: The (New?) Official Yes Thread
« Reply #138 on: February 15, 2010, 11:40:46 AM »
While "Close to the Edge" is one of my favorite Yessongs, the current lineup has obviously chosen not to do it, and I have to agree with them.  Have you seen/heard recent renditions of "Close to the Edge" (like, in the past 10 or 15 years)?  They slow it way down, painfully so, so that they can play it.  True, people really want to see/hear this song when they go see Yes, but the band itself also wants to feel like they're doing the song justice, and honestly, I don't know if they could.

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Re: The (New?) Official Yes Thread
« Reply #139 on: February 15, 2010, 02:43:44 PM »
While "Close to the Edge" is one of my favorite Yessongs, the current lineup has obviously chosen not to do it, and I have to agree with them.  Have you seen/heard recent renditions of "Close to the Edge" (like, in the past 10 or 15 years)?  They slow it way down, painfully so, so that they can play it.  True, people really want to see/hear this song when they go see Yes, but the band itself also wants to feel like they're doing the song justice, and honestly, I don't know if they could.

They were doing it every show earlier on the Benoit David tour though.