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Re: 2016 MLB Thread
« Reply #175 on: August 07, 2016, 12:17:01 AM »
Not really. Except on Chciago radio they are just all taking about how the White Sox did nothing which coesn't helpp them at all and I don't mind them at all go cubbies.
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« Reply #176 on: August 07, 2016, 09:19:15 AM »
Good riddance A-Roid.

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« Reply #177 on: August 07, 2016, 01:22:49 PM »
Manny Machado has 3 HRs and 7 RBI through three innings  :hefdaddy

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« Reply #178 on: August 07, 2016, 01:26:48 PM »
That's pretty good, right?

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« Reply #179 on: August 07, 2016, 06:44:02 PM »
Ichiro hit 3,000 today
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« Reply #180 on: August 07, 2016, 07:49:22 PM »
Funny, wasn't MLB just celebrating him as the all time hit king recently?

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« Reply #181 on: August 07, 2016, 08:56:11 PM »
Regardless of his antics, A-Rod is still one of the greatest ever. Hate him or like him, he's the kind of player that comes around once or twice in a generation. I don't really care about the people who are going to harp on all of his negatives. He fucked up big time and embarrassed the Yankees, lying to them and taking them for granted. However, he made amends in such a way that they want him as part of their future. His teammates will forgive him. Management will mostly forgive him. Most of the fans will forgive him. He is a flawed as the rest of us. I've met him and spoken in depth to those who know him personally. He is a generous and actually an exceedingly funny person to be around.

I expect people will have lots of condescending and offensive things to say about him and that's everyone's right. However, does it make you feel cool to be that self-righteous?  ;)

I will definitely miss watching him play because when he was at the top of his game, there were very very few like him.

Funny, wasn't MLB just celebrating him as the all time hit king recently?

Yes. If you combine his Japanese and MLB hits, he has more than Rose.

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« Reply #182 on: August 07, 2016, 09:05:49 PM »
The sad thing for A-Rod is, he could have been one of the best ever without steroids, but he went down that path, and now we will never know how great he really was.  The stain is forever on him, and nothing anyone says can change that.

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« Reply #183 on: August 07, 2016, 09:26:27 PM »
I don't disagree. However, I try to look at it differently. Hundreds of players tried using some form of PEDs throughout the steroid era. People can't say that the drugs made him a great player, because they don't work that way. The only thing they can hold a grudge against him for is cheating. If they do that, they need to hold the same grudge against the hundreds of others who took PEDs. They can't take away just how good he was.

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« Reply #184 on: August 07, 2016, 09:30:52 PM »
The sad thing for A-Rod is, he could have been one of the best ever without steroids, but he went down that path, and now we will never know how great he really was.  The stain is forever on him, and nothing anyone says can change that.

yep. the dude was a specimen. He didn't need to cheat. He was already a freakin stud. It's a shame he chose to go down that road.
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« Reply #185 on: August 07, 2016, 10:28:18 PM »
I don't hold the PEDs against any of those guys. A-Rod, Bonds, McGwire, etc. are all-time greats. Every era has had its own version of PEDs--they've just become more advanced. Also, people tend to gloss over the fact that they were also batting against pitchers who were juicing.

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« Reply #186 on: August 08, 2016, 07:02:07 AM »
This Friday we say goodbye to the greatest Yankee ever.  It will be a sad day for all Yankee fans.
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« Reply #187 on: August 08, 2016, 08:16:30 AM »
This Friday we say goodbye to the greatest Yankee ever.  It will be a sad day for all Yankee fans.

Real Yankee fans are probably doing a backflip in excitement.

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« Reply #188 on: August 08, 2016, 09:57:27 AM »
I don't hold the PEDs against any of those guys. A-Rod, Bonds, McGwire, etc. are all-time greats. Every era has had its own version of PEDs--they've just become more advanced. Also, people tend to gloss over the fact that they were also batting against pitchers who were juicing.

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« Reply #189 on: August 08, 2016, 12:25:10 PM »
This Friday we say goodbye to the greatest Yankee ever.  It will be a sad day for all Yankee fans.

Real Yankee fans are probably doing a backflip in excitement.

No they're not.

I don't hold the PEDs against any of those guys. A-Rod, Bonds, McGwire, etc. are all-time greats. Every era has had its own version of PEDs--they've just become more advanced. Also, people tend to gloss over the fact that they were also batting against pitchers who were juicing.

A voice of reason amongst the torches and pitchforks!

It's definitely a rational statement. People are exceedingly shortsighted in instances like that.

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« Reply #190 on: August 08, 2016, 12:46:27 PM »
This Friday we say goodbye to the greatest Yankee ever.  It will be a sad day for all Yankee fans.

Real Yankee fans are probably doing a backflip in excitement.

No they're not.



A lot are. A quick google search shows that he was hated by many.

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« Reply #191 on: August 08, 2016, 01:00:46 PM »
This Friday we say goodbye to the greatest Yankee ever.  It will be a sad day for all Yankee fans.

Real Yankee fans are probably doing a backflip in excitement.

No they're not.



A lot are. A quick google search shows that he was hated by many.

A quick Google search shows a lot, especially if you're looking for it.  :P

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« Reply #192 on: August 08, 2016, 05:18:15 PM »
This Friday we say goodbye to the greatest Yankee ever
I don't know about this. I remember this guy named Jeter that played for the Yankees. He was pretty good  ;)

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« Reply #193 on: August 08, 2016, 05:45:41 PM »
Don't normally post in this thread, but...

I wish we could get past the idea that steroids are all about getting hulked out.  For many athletes, it's about faster recovery from injury.  And for those who are on the bubble (especially in MLB and NFL), that can be the difference between being on the team and languishing in the minors/practice squad...and even for the stars, it can be the difference between playing and not playing.  There are some who do it to get jacked, but I think it's far from the majority.  I don't remember enough of Slappy's career to know if there may have been a recovery component to it, but I'm not so quick to assume it was for power.

And Jeter is soooo over-rated.  He had very limited range, so he made plays that looked like circus catches on balls that would have been routine for other shortstops.  ARod was a better shortstop, and I don't think it was very close. [flame suit on]

Regarding ARod leaving now, I think it may have something to do with protecting one of their prospects by making room for him on the roster.  They're paying him his full contract, so it's not like its a move to save money.
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« Reply #194 on: August 08, 2016, 06:29:11 PM »
This Friday we say goodbye to the greatest Yankee ever
I don't know about this. I remember this guy named Jeter that played for the Yankees. He was pretty good  ;)

Jeter was overrated, though.  He's not even one of the five best Yankees ever.

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« Reply #195 on: August 09, 2016, 05:25:42 AM »
This Friday we say goodbye to the greatest Yankee ever
I don't know about this. I remember this guy named Jeter that played for the Yankees. He was pretty good  ;)

Jeter was overrated, though.  He's not even one of the five best Yankees ever.

Firstly, he's not overrated. He brought more to the team than just what he did on the field. Plus, he played in one of, if not, the toughest divisions in the league and played more games against them obviously.

Secondly, saying he's not one of the Top 5 Yankees ever isn't really an insult. Ruth, DiMaggio, Gehrig, Mantle, Berra (or even Whitey). It would sure suck to be number 6 in that list.  :lol

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« Reply #196 on: August 09, 2016, 05:30:31 AM »
Jeter being overrated is a widely accepted notion. He was very fortunate to be drafted by the Yankees.  But I will give any player who played through the "steroid era" clean props.
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« Reply #197 on: August 09, 2016, 06:08:33 AM »


Firstly, he's not overrated. He brought more to the team than just what he did on the field. Plus, he played in one of, if not, the toughest divisions in the league and played more games against them obviously.
 

He is overrated, yes.  The fact that he ever won a single gold glove alone makes him overrated, considering he was never anything more than a mediocre fielder with limited range (the numbers back this up).

As for the toughest division in baseball, I have no idea if that is true or not, and I doubt it is, but so what?

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« Reply #198 on: August 09, 2016, 06:11:10 AM »
Looks like Tim Tebow is taking aim at a career in baseball. Hopefully, this works out for him.


https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17252762/former-nfl-qb-tim-tebow-pursue-career-professional-baseball

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« Reply #199 on: August 09, 2016, 12:07:51 PM »
Looks like Tim Tebow is taking aim at a career in baseball. Hopefully, this works out for him.


https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17252762/former-nfl-qb-tim-tebow-pursue-career-professional-baseball
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« Reply #200 on: August 09, 2016, 12:37:36 PM »
Sounds like Prince Fielder is also set to retire.

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« Reply #201 on: August 09, 2016, 12:53:52 PM »


Firstly, he's not overrated. He brought more to the team than just what he did on the field. Plus, he played in one of, if not, the toughest divisions in the league and played more games against them obviously.
 

He is overrated, yes.  The fact that he ever won a single gold glove alone makes him overrated, considering he was never anything more than a mediocre fielder with limited range (the numbers back this up).

As for the toughest division in baseball, I have no idea if that is true or not, and I doubt it is, but so what?


I don't think he was a medicore shortstop. His percentage was above the league average more often than not. If you look at past Gold Glove winners for his position, the numbers are not so dissimilar as you claim. Others have won the Gold Glove with worse numbers. He had Gold Glove wining numbers similar and better to people like Vizquel and A-Rod.

Jeter lost the MVP to Morneau in 2006, primarily because he wasn't a power hitter. Look at the numbers. Jeter got on base more, scored more runs, had more hits, and had a higher batting average, among other statistics.  The only thing Morneau trumped Jeter on was with power hitting. There is more to the game than hitting home runs. My point is that Jeter was a run producer. A lot of people prefer power hitters. He wasn't a five-tool player (since he didn't hit for power primarily) so I'm sure there are some who hold  that against him.

Playing in a tougher division makes a hell of a difference. You play the teams in your own division far more than the rest of the league. If you're facing a tougher teams  more often, then naturally the odds work against you. I'm not saying this is an open and shut statistic but it does play a part.

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« Reply #202 on: August 09, 2016, 05:21:46 PM »
Jeter was a mediocre fielder.  Go look at his range for most of his career; very poor.  Yeah, he did a great job of taking care of the balls he got to, but his limited range allowed a lot of hits that better shortstops would have gobbled up and turned into outs.

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« Reply #203 on: August 10, 2016, 06:57:04 AM »
***Disclaimer***
I am not posting this as a Red Sox yahoo. I am merely posting this out of sheer amazement and unbelievability.


Last night during the Sox game, they mentioned that if Rick Porcello wins, it will be his 100th victory, and would make him only the 10nth player to achieve that before turning 28 in the last 40 years. I thought there must be some mistake.

Sure enough, watching MLB network this morning, they have the same stat, along with the list of who else has done it. It's quite a list:

Fernando Valenzuela
Roger Clemens
Bret Saberhagen
Dwight Gooden
Greg Maddux
Pedro Martinez
CC Sabathia
Feliz Hernandez
Clayton Kershaw

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Sox fans scoffed when they re-upped him for 4 @ 82m a year early AND before he even pitched a game for them! After having a brutal first half of last year, Sox fans were begging to Fire Sale him over the off season.
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« Reply #204 on: August 10, 2016, 07:08:59 AM »
***Disclaimer***
I am not posting this as a Red Sox yahoo. I am merely posting this out of sheer amazement and unbelievability.


Last night during the Sox game, they mentioned that if Rick Porcello wins, it will be his 100th victory, and would make him only the 10nth player to achieve that before turning 28 in the last 40 years. I thought there must be some mistake.

Sure enough, watching MLB network this morning, they have the same stat, along with the list of who else has done it. It's quite a list:

Fernando Valenzuela
Roger Clemens
Bret Saberhagen
Dwight Gooden
Greg Maddux
Pedro Martinez
CC Sabathia
Feliz Hernandez
Clayton Kershaw

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Sox fans scoffed when they re-upped him for 4 @ 82m a year early AND before he even pitched a game for them! After having a brutal first half of last year, Sox fans were begging to Fire Sale him over the off season.

I was watching the Yankees game and heard the same thing. Interesting.  :biggrin:

Porcello is an excellent pitcher and not just because of that statistic. I like his stuff. I think they said he would be the 14th of all time, if I remember correctly. I forgot what the Yankees announcers said.

It would have been a closer game last night if the Yankees didn't get screwed on that third base call. His hand touched the bag just before he was tagged with the glove. I'm not saying it cost them the game. They made some other mistakes that did that. The reversed home run call didn't help them much though. The runs came in anyway.

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« Reply #205 on: August 10, 2016, 07:17:30 AM »
Cecil Fielder, and his son Prince....both with 319 career HRs.

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« Reply #206 on: August 10, 2016, 07:21:16 AM »
It would have been a closer game last night if the Yankees didn't get screwed on that third base call. His hand touched the bag just before he was tagged with the glove. 


I was shocked that Girardi didn't challenge the call on Headley at third.
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« Reply #207 on: August 10, 2016, 07:23:42 AM »
It would have been a closer game last night if the Yankees didn't get screwed on that third base call. His hand touched the bag just before he was tagged with the glove. 


I was shocked that Girardi didn't challenge the call on Headley at third.


Me too. I kept rewatching it. It looks like he missed the first swipe and actually tagged him on the front of his shoulder. Maybe he grazed his jersey enough though and that's what the ump saw. Still. I won't blame one call for ruining the game. They had other opportunities that they screwed up. How many times did they hit a grounder to the left side of the field with a runner on second or third? Ugh.

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« Reply #208 on: August 10, 2016, 07:26:00 AM »
What were the Yanks announcers saying about the Headley/Porcello dust up? The only thing Jerry Remy guessed was that maybe Porcello thought Headley was peaking at the signs because he was pointing at his eyes. So far, there's been no evidence to that, so maybe it was something else.

Porcello's comment:

* "I don't have any comment on that. Baseball stuff, it happens down on the field, and I'm just going to let it stay there between me and Headley." Rick Porcello on his argument with Chase Headley, which resulted in the benches emptying.
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« Reply #209 on: August 10, 2016, 07:31:10 AM »
What were the Yanks announcers saying about the Headley/Porcello dust up? The only thing Jerry Remy guessed was that maybe Porcello thought Headley was peaking at the signs because he was pointing at his eyes. So far, there's been no evidence to that, so maybe it was something else.

Porcello's comment:

* "I don't have any comment on that. Baseball stuff, it happens down on the field, and I'm just going to let it stay there between me and Headley." Rick Porcello on his argument with Chase Headley, which resulted in the benches emptying.

It was hard to tell. All they showed was what looked like Headley reacting to something Porcello said. They didn't show anything before that, so I can't be sure what started it. When the argument started, the broadcast was in the middle of an instant replay so I couldn't tell what happened.