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Spock's Beard Survivor 2016 - Results & Discussion
« on: January 04, 2016, 11:41:22 AM »
Hello and welcome to my 3rd Annual Spock's Beard Survivor, for the 2016 season! Here I will post the album results, and eventually, the finals!

To start off with, I'll post the track lists/options for each survivor, then as we finish each album, I'll update the track lists with the final results.

As usual, the top two songs on each album go to the finals, and each album's 3rd place song will move to Consolation, with the exception of Snow, which will have it's 5th and 6th place songs move into Consolation, while it's top 4 songs will move to the Finals (as I have done with previous double albums in other Survivors).

Because of that, the Consolation Rounds will consist of 13 songs (2 from Snow, and 1 each from the other 11 albums) and the Finals will consist of 30 songs (4 from Snow, and 2 from each of the other 11 albums, plus the top 2 of the Consolation Rounds and the top 2 from the B-Sides/Bonus Tracks Survivor).

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The Light
1. The Light
2. The Water

3. Go The Way You Go
4. On The Edge

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Beware Of Darkness
1. The Doorway
2. Walking On The Wind

3. Thoughts
4. Time Has Come
5. Beware Of Darkness
6. Waste Away
7. Chatauqua

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The Kindness Of Strangers
1. Flow
2. Harm's Way

3. The Good Don't Last
4. June
5. In The Mouth Of Madness
6. Cakewalk On Easy Street
7. Strange World

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Day For Night
1. Crack The Big Sky
2. The Healing Colors Of Sound

3. Day For Night
4. The Distance To The Sun
5. Gibberish
6. Skin
7. The Gypsy
8. Can't Get It Wrong

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V
1. At The End Of The Day
2. The Great Nothing

3. Thoughts Part 2
4. Revelation
5. All On A Sunday
6. Goodbye To Yesterday

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Snow
1. Made Alive / Overture
2. Stranger In A Strange Land
3. Wind At My Back
4. Solitary Soul

5. Open Wide The Flood Gates
6. Devil's Got My Throat

7. Looking For Answers
8. Made Alive / Wind At My Back
9. Long Time Suffering
     All Is Vanity
11. I'm Dying
12. Love Beyond Words
13. I Will Go
14. The 39th Street Blues (I'm Sick)
15. Second Overture
      4th Of July
      I'm The Guy
18. Devil's Got My Throat Reprise
19. Open The Gates Part 2
      Freak Boy
21. Welcome To NYC
22. Freak Boy Part 2
      Carie
24. Ladies And Gentlemen, Mister Ryo Okumoto On The Keyboards
      Reflection
26. Snow's Night Out

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Feel Euphoria
1. The Bottom Line
2. Ghosts Of Autumn

3. Onomatopoeia
4. A Guy Named Sid
    East Of Eden, West Of Memphis
6. Shining Star
7. Feel Euphoria
    Carry On

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Octane
1. A Flash Before My Eyes
2. There Was A Time

3. As Long As We Ride
4. NWC
5. The Planet's Hum
6. Watching The Tide

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Spock's Beard
1. On A Perfect Day
2. All That's Left

3. As Far As The Mind Can See
4. Rearranged
5. Skeletons At The Feast
6. Is This Love?
7. Hereafter
8. Sometimes They Stay, Sometimes They Go
9. With Your Kiss
    The Slow Crash Landing Man
11. Wherever You Stand

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X
1. Jaws Of Heaven
2. From The Darkness

3. Edge Of The In-Between
4. The Quiet House
5. The Man Behind The Curtain
6. The Emperor's Clothes
7. Kamikaze

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Brief Nocturnes & Dreamless Sleep
1. Something Very Strange
2. Submerged

3. A Treasure Abandoned
4. Afterthoughts
5. Hiding Out
6. I Know Your Secret
7. Waiting For Me

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The Oblivion Particle
1. Disappear
2. The Center Line

3. To Be Free Again
4. Bennett Built A Time Machine
5. Tides Of Time
6. A Better Way To Fly
7. Hell's Not Enough
8. Minion
9. Get Out While You Can

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Bonus Tracks, B-Sides & Non-Album Tracks
1. Follow Me To Sleep
    Their Names Escape Me
    Man You're Afraid You Are
    Falling From Forever

5. When She's Gone
    Broken Promise Land
7. Listening To The Sky
    Down A Burning Road
    Wish I Were Here
    Iron Man (Cover)
11. Postcards From Perdition
12. Southside Of The Sky (Cover)
13. Stratus (Cover)
      Game Face
15. Into Fire
      The Truth
      Moth Of Many Flames
18. Hurt (Cover)
      From The Messenger

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Consolation
1. Go The Way You Go
2. The Good Don't Last

3. Edge Of The In-Between
4. To Be Free Again
5. Devil's Got My Throat
6. Thoughts
7. A Treasure Abandoned
8. Thoughts Part 2
9. Day For Night
10. Open Wide The Flood Gates
      As Far As The Mind Can See
12. Onomatopoeia
13. As Long As We Ride

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Finals
01. The Light
02. At The End Of The Day
03. The Doorway
04. The Water
05. The Good Don't Last
06. The Great Nothing
07. Walking On The Wind
08. Jaws Of Heaven
09. Flow
10. From The Darkness
11. Something Very Strange
12. Crack The Big Sky
13. On A Perfect Day
14. The Healing Colors Of Sound
15. A Flash Before My Eyes
16. Disappear
17. Go The Way You Go
18. Harm's Way
19. Falling For Forever
20. The Center Line
21. Made Alive / Overture
22. Stranger In A Strange Land
23. Wind At My Back
24. Submerged
25. Man You're Afraid You Are
26. Solitary Soul
27. Their Names Escape Me
28. Ghosts Of Autumn
29. All That's Left
30. There Was A Time
31. Follow Me To Sleep
32. The Bottom Line

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Re: Spock's Beard Survivor 2016 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2016, 12:53:50 PM »
The Light's Final Round's Results:
The Light 1 (14.3%)
The Water 6 (85.7%)

The final ranking is updated in the top post, predictably so, with the same results as the last time I ran this (and I'm pretty sure the 1st time I did too).

BOD is underway now, and just as a reminder, rounds are now ONE-DAY, so make sure you check in this forum every day if you want to continue participating in this! Thanks! :tup

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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2016, 07:51:08 PM »
Beware Of Darkness's Final Round's Results:
The Doorway 0 (0%)
Walking On The Wind 8 (100%)

1. The Doorway
2. Walking On The Wind
3. Thoughts
4. Time Has Come
5. Beware Of Darkness
6. Waste Away
7. Chatauqua

"The Doorway" and "Walking On The Wind" (my two favorites off the album) move on to the Finals, with "Thoughts" going to Consolation with "Go The Way You Go". For comparison's sake, here's the ranking of BOD from the 2013 Survivor:

1. The Doorway
2. Walking On The Wind
3. Thoughts
4. Time Has Come
5. Waste Away
6. Chatauqua
7. Beware Of Darkness

The EXACT SAME top 4, but the bottom three all swapped places, with "Chatauqua" coming in last this time, "Waste Away" moving down a spot, and the title track moving up two spots! I wonder if "The Doorway" will make it all the way again in the Finals this time around...

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Re: Spock's Beard Survivor 2016 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2016, 07:19:27 PM »
The Kindness Of Strangers' Final Round's Results:
Harm's Way 9 (100%)
Flow 0 (0%)

Posting this up a few hours prior to the round actually ending mostly because it's a unanimous vote, and I doubt we'll get any more votes this time, so here's the final ranking for TKOS:
1. Flow
2. Harm's Way
3. The Good Don't Last
4. June
5. In The Mouth Of Madness
6. Cakewalk On Easy Street
7. Strange World

For comparison's sake, here's the ranking from 3 years ago:
1. Flow
2. The Good Don't Last
3. June
4. Cakewalk On Easy Street
    Harm's Way
6. In The Mouth Of Madness
7. Strange World

"Flow" and "Strange World" retained their placements, but everyone else moved around a bit. "Harm's Way" was out tied for fourth, I think, after several tie-breakers, and June made it to the Consolation Rounds while the opening track made it to finals. Quite a bit of shuffling around on this one, though I'm happy with the results either way.

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Re: Spock's Beard Survivor 2016 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2016, 11:17:29 AM »
Day For Night's Final Round's Results:
Crack The Big Sky 3 (42.9%)
The Healing Colors Of Sound 4 (57.1%)

Well I didn't see THAT coming! A few extra votes for the closing epic and it places second over-all, but both songs will go onto the Finals! Here's DFN's final ranking:
1. Crack The Big Sky
2. The Healing Colors Of Sound
3. Day For Night
4. The Distance To The Sun
5. Gibberish
6. Skin
7. The Gypsy
8. Can't Get It Wrong

And for comparison, here's the ranking from the 2013 survivor!

1. Day For Night
2. The Healing Colors Of Sound
3. Crack The Big Sky
4. The Distance To The Sun
5. Gibberish
    The Gypsy
7. Skin
8. Can't Get It Wrong

The first song out was still the same, and 1st and 3rd swapped places this time around, with 4th and 5th being static. Not bad, and just about as I suspected.

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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2016, 11:03:34 PM »
V's Final Round's Results:
At The End Of The Day 3 (33.3%)
The Great Nothing 6 (66.7%)

Two-to-one, "The Great Nothing" falls to second place, leaving the epic opener "At The End Of The Day" on top! The final ranking is as follows:

1. At The End Of The Day
2. The Great Nothing
3. Thoughts Part 2
4. Revelation
5. All On A Sunday
6. Goodbye To Yesterday

For comparison's sake, here's the results from last time:

1. At The End Of The Day
2. Thoughts (Part 2)
3. Revelation
4. The Great Nothing
5. All On A Sunday
6. Goodbye To Yesterday

The first and last two songs are the same, while the middle three all shuffled around a bit! Nice to see TGN get a chance this time around (sorry, Mladen).

As I said in the last round of V, I will be putting the survivor on hold until next Sunday/Monday as I'll be away for a convention in DC this weekend, and I don't want to start such a long album survivor only to have to take a break after two rounds. So, give your ears a spin with Snow until then, and get ready to pick SEVEN tracks on the first round!

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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2016, 10:18:11 PM »
Snow's Final Round's Results:
Made Alive / Overture 2 (28.6%)
Stranger In A Strange Land 5 (71.4%)

Well, who knew the opening track would land on top?! Crazy! This time around, the results are a bit different than last time. Here's the final results for 2016:
1. Made Alive / Overture
2. Stranger In A Strange Land
3. Wind At My Back
4. Solitary Soul
5. Open Wide The Flood Gates
6. Devil's Got My Throat
7. Looking For Answers
8. Made Alive / Wind At My Back
9. Long Time Suffering
     All Is Vanity
11. I'm Dying
12. Love Beyond Words
13. I Will Go
14. The 39th Street Blues (I'm Sick)
15. Second Overture
      4th Of July
      I'm The Guy
18. Devil's Got My Throat Reprise
19. Open The Gates Part 2
      Freak Boy
21. Welcome To NYC
22. Freak Boy Part 2
      Carie
24. Ladies And Gentlemen, Mister Ryo Okumoto On The Keyboards
      Reflection
26. Snow's Night Out

...And for comparison's sake, the results from 2013:
1. Made Alive Again/Wind At My Back
2. Stranger In A Strange Land
3. Devil's Got My Throat
4. Wind At My Back
5. Made Alive/Overture
6. Long Time Suffering
7. Open Wide The Flood Gates
    Solitary Soul
9. Open The Gates Part 2
10. Welcome To NYC
11. The 39th Street Blues (I'm Sick)
12. I'm Dying
13. I Will Go
14. All Is Vanity
15. Love Beyond Words
      Second Overture
17. 4th Of July
      Reflection
      Freak Boy
20. I'm The Guy
      Carie
      Looking For Answers
      Devil's Got My Throat (Revisited)
24. Freak Boy Part 2
      Snow's Night Out
      Ladies and Gentlemen, Mister Ryo Okumoto...

Quite a bit different, with only half of the four Finals songs returning this time around, and one of the previous Consolation songs now as the top song!!! Crazy!!!

Thanks to everyone who stuck it out through this album! We now move on to the NDV-era albums, starting with what is arguably their least liked effort, Feel Euphoria.

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Re: Spock's Beard Survivor 2016 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2016, 03:56:55 AM »
Also interesting is that last time out it was the closing track that won Snow, and this time it's the opening track.

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Re: Spock's Beard Survivor 2016 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2016, 04:16:05 PM »
Brief Nocturnes & Dreamless Sleep's Final Round's Results:
Submerged 3 (60%)
Something Very Strange 2 (40%)

1. Something Very Strange
2. Submerged
3. A Treasure Abandoned
4. Afterthoughts
5. Hiding Out
6. I Know Your Secret
7. Waiting For Me

Here's the results for this album from three years ago:
1. Waiting For Me
2. A Treasure Abandoned
3. Something Very Strange
4. Hiding Out
5. Afterthoughts
6. I Know Your Secret
7. Submerged

Very interesting that "Waiting For Me" went from first to last, while "Submerged" went from last to second! "A Treasure Abandoned" dropped one spot to land in consolation while "Hiding Out" and "Afterthoughts" swapped spots, leaving "I Know Your Secret" in the same position. I guess there's no love for the epic any more!

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Re: Spock's Beard Survivor 2016 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2016, 04:37:10 PM »
That's very puzzling, I don't know if I've ever seen such inconsistency between two survivors from only a year apart.

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« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2016, 07:26:38 PM »
That's very puzzling, I don't know if I've ever seen such inconsistency between two survivors from only a year apart.

A year apart? The last SB Survivor I did was in 2013 after BNADS came out, so it's been quite awhile. In fact, quite a few of these final rankings have changed a bit since then, so it's been interesting seeing what SB fans vote on this time around. Definitely not expected results at all so far, but with TOP, this will be its first go around, so I'm excited to see how this one goes!

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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2016, 01:27:41 AM »
Interesting results. It would be interesting to know if the change in the ranking comes from the same voters who have changed their opinion ovder time or from new voters who have different preferences.

I know that I didn't vote in the 2013 survivor for BNADS. But if I had, I hadn't voted that much different from now.
Must've been Kwyji sending all the wrong songs.   ;D

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« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2016, 03:50:54 AM »
That's very puzzling, I don't know if I've ever seen such inconsistency between two survivors from only a year apart.

A year apart? The last SB Survivor I did was in 2013 after BNADS came out, so it's been quite awhile. In fact, quite a few of these final rankings have changed a bit since then, so it's been interesting seeing what SB fans vote on this time around. Definitely not expected results at all so far, but with TOP, this will be its first go around, so I'm excited to see how this one goes!

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Wow, it's been three years already? Damn, time just flew by, I had a feeling we do this every year.  :lol In that case I'm not too surprised, Waiting for me probably appeared like a strong epic song when the album was released, but time has showed that some of the shorter songs might actually be better.

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« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2016, 10:17:44 AM »
Wow, it's been three years already? Damn, time just flew by, I had a feeling we do this every year.  :lol In that case I'm not too surprised, Waiting for me probably appeared like a strong epic song when the album was released, but time has showed that some of the shorter songs might actually be better.

Yeah, I try to only do survivors whenever new albums come out, so for bands/artists that I've done that for (SB, of course, as well as Neal Morse, Flying Colors, and Transatlantic), they're only done every couple of years. The one exception for that has been Marillion, where I didn't do a new one back when Sounds That Can't Be Made came out a few years ago, so the last time I did Marillion was back in 2011, so once their new album comes out this year, they'll be up!

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« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2016, 06:16:11 PM »
The Oblivion Particle's Final Round's Results:
The Center Line 4 (66.7%)
Disappear 2 (33.3%)

1. Disappear
2. The Center Line
3. To Be Free Again
4. Bennett Built A Time Machine
5. Tides Of Time
6. A Better Way To Fly
7. Hell's Not Enough
8. Minion
9. Get Out While You Can

Voted 2-to-1, "The Center Line" places second while the album's majestic Kansas-soundalike closer is the TOP song of the album! What a weird and whacky final ranking, guys...actually, I could say that for MOST of the album rankings here in this survivor so far. Hopefully the B-Sides and Consolation rounds go pretty smoothly. Up first, the Bonus Tracks, B-Sides and Covers survivor, which features a bunch of songs from the album's various special/alternate editions, as well as the 7-man SB epic released last year (which I suspect will place as No. 1).

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« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2016, 03:59:02 PM »
Wow, it's been a couple months since I last posted in here, but I'm bumping this up now so I can remember to update it in a couple of days with the results of the Finals after the Finals' Final Round ends!

Thanks again to everyone who has participated in this survivor this year. I wish SB were more popular so we'd have at least 10 or 12 people voting in each round, but I'm happy that I got as many as I did.

For my next Survivor, I'll probably do either Rush or Genesis. I haven't decided which, yet. I'll post in the pinned topic here in this forum and judge by response which one I will do next, starting next month.

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« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2016, 10:26:44 PM »
Round 30's Results:
The Light 2 (25%)
At The End Of The Day 6 (75%)

And with that, 3-to-1, ATEOTD is voted out to 2nd place with "The Light" taking the gold in this year's Spock's Beard Survivor! The final rankings for the The Finals have been updated in the OP above. Here, for comparison, is the last Finals ranking when I did this back in 2013!

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1. The Doorway
2. The Light
3. At The End Of The Day
4. Flow
5. The Water
6. A Flash Before My Eyes
7. From The Darkness
8. Jaws Of Heaven
9. The Good Don't Last
10. Walking On The Wind
11. Thoughts (Part 2)
12. Something Very Strange
13. Waiting For Me
14. Edge Of The In-Between
15. On A Perfect Day
16. Day For Night
17. The Healing Colors Of Sound
18. Their Names Escape Me
19. A Treasure Abandoned
20. Down A Burning Road
21. Stranger In A Strange Land
22. A Guy Named Sid
23. As Far As The Mind Can See
24. Wind At My Back
25. Ghosts Of Autumn
26. There Was A Time
27. Made Alive Again/Wind At My Back
28. Devil's Got My Throat

We had the same top 3 last time, but every song shifted a bit. I guess we can all at least agree that those three songs are three of their best! At least, this time around, "The Great Nothing" actually made it into the finals! To compare more of the last Survivor's rankings, here's a link to the 2013 Spock's Beard Survivor home-thread - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=36483.0

Thanks again to everyone who participated, and maybe I'll run this again in another 2-3 years after SB13 comes out!

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Re: Spock's Beard Survivor 2016 - Results & Discussion
« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2016, 11:44:21 PM »
Thanks for running this, it's been a long and fun ride.

I personally would have a top five that is a little different but I can absolutely live with this one because they are all stellar songs and the differences in quality are minimal and up to personal taste.

Hopefully the Beard continues to deliver quality records so that we can have another survivor with more contenders for the top (and hopefully more voters).
Must've been Kwyji sending all the wrong songs.   ;D

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« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2016, 03:00:42 AM »
The Good Don't Last only got into the Finals through Consolation, and it still managed a Top 5 finish. Impressive.

Oh, and everyone else who didn't vote...GO AND LISTEN TO THIS INCREDIBLE BAND!  Their survivor should be getting FAR more participants than they had this time. They should be up there with the Hakens and Steven Wilsons.

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« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2016, 03:21:02 AM »
Oh, and everyone else who didn't vote...GO AND LISTEN TO THIS INCREDIBLE BAND!  Their survivor should be getting FAR more participants than they had this time. They should be up there with the Hakens and Steven Wilsons.
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« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2016, 08:47:20 AM »
Thanks for hosting! I wasn't as active on the commenting side, but tried to get my votes in most of the time. Good top 10, though A Flash Before My Eyes and Flow are too low ;p
Hey dude slow the fuck down so we can finish together at the same time.  :biggrin:
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