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DT14 speculation thread
« on: November 30, 2015, 05:43:07 PM »
Yay, another weird thread by me. While we're waiting for any damn update on DT13, let's chill a bit and speculate on this thread instead :p
However, it's pretty straightforward, not many things to speculate on. It's definitely not about speculating track lengths and lyrics lol, but about something like the following:

When will DT14 come out?
Will it be a regular DT album, or a concept?
If concept, will it be closely related to The Astonishing?
And... Will it happen at all? :/

I'm thinking it will happen for sure, will come in 2018 (or maybe even late 2017 if DT gets inspired by the success of the upcoming album)
I'm also nearly certain it will be a regular DT album, with lots of regular 10-15 min songs (haven't done those since ADTOE)

What do you guys think?
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Re: DT14 speculation thread
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2015, 05:49:33 PM »
This is just silly, even for DTF.  But despite coming in here to lock the thread on site, your questions are at least almost in the same zip code as "reasonable."

When will DT14 come out?

Most likely, roughly 2 years after The Astonishing, since that is the timeframe the band has been on for quite some time now. 

Will it be a regular DT album, or a concept?

Highly unlikely that it would be a concept album.  The guys in the band are smart enough to know that concept albums need to be "special," and not something you do too frequently.

If concept, will it be closely related to The Astonishing?

No.

And... Will it happen at all? :/

Most likely.  We haven't gotten any information that the band is thinking about hanging it up in the foreseeable future. 
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Re: DT14 speculation thread
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Re: DT14 speculation thread
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2015, 06:01:27 PM »
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Re: DT14 speculation thread
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2015, 06:03:07 PM »
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Re: DT14 speculation thread
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2015, 06:03:35 PM »
Will it be a regular DT album, or a concept?
If concept, will it be closely related to The Astonishing?

With the amount of world-building they're doing at the moment with The Astonishing, I don't think it's out of the question to keep building onto that 'world' but we haven't even got the official album cover, so it's a little too soon for that yet! But if the album ends up great? Why not  :metal
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2015, 06:19:58 PM »
DT14 speculation?  really??  This is what we've come to?

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Re: DT14 speculation thread
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2015, 06:41:57 PM »
Meh, I'm more hyped about DT17 myself :P
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Re: DT14 speculation thread
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2015, 06:52:15 PM »
DT14 will be country music album
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Re: DT14 speculation thread
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2015, 06:59:45 PM »
Are we already this bored with speculating about DT13 that we're already moving on to DT14? :lol
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Re: DT14 speculation thread
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2015, 07:23:20 PM »
What about DT19?  :rollin
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Re: DT14 speculation thread
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2015, 07:41:36 PM »
I mean, the clock is ticking...

Yeah I think it'll come out, fortunately the band seems intent on keeping it going for at least a few years.

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Re: DT14 speculation thread
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2015, 10:09:38 PM »
The astonishin tour will be taking place for a longer period of time than previous tours and when it's over the band will take a long break. They will meet up again for recording DT14 in december of 2017.
The first version of DT14 will be scrapped after mixing (and will become a highly sought after collectors item).
The second attempt at DT14 will be recorded from july to september 2018 and be released in the end of february 2019.
It will be an all acoustic album featuring only songs shorter than 5 minutes.

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Re: DT14 speculation thread
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Re: DT14 speculation thread
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Re: DT14 speculation thread
« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2015, 10:30:19 PM »
Meh, I'm more hyped about DT17 myself :P

Same here!

I can almost guarantee that or one of the preceding 4 albums will be a concept album. 

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« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2015, 10:31:41 PM »
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Re: DT14 speculation thread
« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2015, 11:07:11 PM »
For those who are triskaidekaphobic, The Astonishing 'is' DT14.

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Re: DT14 speculation thread
« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2015, 12:53:17 AM »
What if.. Dream Theater were a Spanish mariachi band?


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Re: DT14 speculation thread
« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2015, 02:03:21 AM »
Oh my God  :lol Can we at least wait until TA is out?
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Re: DT14 speculation thread
« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2015, 04:38:37 AM »
Clock Guy is speculating about DT24

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Re: DT14 speculation thread
« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2015, 04:50:08 AM »
Seriously?!!  :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: This is getting ridiculous now.

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Re: DT14 speculation thread
« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2015, 05:29:39 AM »
2014. It's wayyy ahead of its time.
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Re: DT14 speculation thread
« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2015, 06:23:57 AM »
I'm really looking forward to DT2. I have a strong feeling it's going to be a landmark album.
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Re: DT14 speculation thread
« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2015, 06:39:19 AM »
DT16 will be called Hexadecavarium. It will feature 16 songs, 2 octaves worth. The last song and title track will be 48 minutes. It will feature "everything that represents Dream Theater".

1. The Square Root of All Evil
2. The Answers Lie Within
3. These Doubled-Layered Walls
4. We Walk Beside Them
5. Panic Attacks
6. Never Enough (Never Enough)
7. The Twice Sacrificed Sons
8. Hexadecavarium

Release date will be 2021 (16 years after Octavarium) After The Astonishing (2016), DT14 (2017), DT15 (2019). The Last Song will feature a guest appearance from then 70 year old Charlie Dominici as the band slowly go backwards to the beginning of their career revisiting iconic melodies of the past. The magnum opus ends with the ending of 'Another Won'. Thus completing the full cycle and finishing the bands career on an emphatic note.

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Re: DT14 speculation thread
« Reply #25 on: December 01, 2015, 06:41:13 AM »
DT16 will be called Hexadecavarium. It will feature 16 songs, 2 octaves worth. The last song and title track will be 48 minutes. It will feature "everything that represents Dream Theater".

1. The Square Root of All Evil
2. The Answers Lie Within
3. These Doubled-Layered Walls
4. We Walk Beside Them
5. Panic Attacks
6. Never Enough (Never Enough)
7. The Twice Sacrificed Sons
8. Hexadecavarium

Release date will be 2021 (16 years after Octavarium) After The Astonishing (2016), DT14 (2017), DT15 (2019). The Last Song will feature a guest appearance from then 70 year old Charlie Dominici as the band slowly go backwards to the beginning of their career revisiting iconic melodies of the past. The magnum opus ends with the ending of 'Another Won'. Thus completing the full cycle and finishing the bands career on an emphatic note.

:clap: Actually well thought out.

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Re: DT14 speculation thread
« Reply #26 on: December 01, 2015, 06:45:59 AM »
...coming in here to lock the thread on site...

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Re: DT14 speculation thread
« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2015, 06:59:10 AM »
DT16 will be called Hexadecavarium. It will feature 16 songs, 2 octaves worth. The last song and title track will be 48 minutes. It will feature "everything that represents Dream Theater".

1. The Square Root of All Evil
2. The Answers Lie Within
3. These Doubled-Layered Walls
4. We Walk Beside Them
5. Panic Attacks
6. Never Enough (Never Enough)
7. The Twice Sacrificed Sons
8. Hexadecavarium

Release date will be 2021 (16 years after Octavarium) After The Astonishing (2016), DT14 (2017), DT15 (2019). The Last Song will feature a guest appearance from then 70 year old Charlie Dominici as the band slowly go backwards to the beginning of their career revisiting iconic melodies of the past. The magnum opus ends with the ending of 'Another Won'. Thus completing the full cycle and finishing the bands career on an emphatic note.

:clap: Actually well thought out.

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Re: DT14 speculation thread
« Reply #28 on: December 01, 2015, 08:37:40 AM »
Just the fact that 16 is 2x8 and 2021 is 16 years after Octavarium AND it still matches up with the

2 years per album cycle.

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Re: DT14 speculation thread
« Reply #29 on: December 01, 2015, 08:46:41 AM »
I had the Astonishing follow up album to be out the year after only because last time there was a 3 year gap it was SDOIT, and then TOT was the year after :metal . I admit I will be bitterly disappointed if this doesn't happen

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Re: DT14 speculation thread
« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2015, 08:51:09 AM »
DT16 will be called Hexadecavarium. It will feature 16 songs, 2 octaves worth. The last song and title track will be 48 minutes. It will feature "everything that represents Dream Theater".

1. The Square Root of All Evil
2. The Answers Lie Within
3. These Doubled-Layered Walls
4. We Walk Beside Them
5. Panic Attacks
6. Never Enough (Never Enough)
7. The Twice Sacrificed Sons
8. Hexadecavarium

Release date will be 2021 (16 years after Octavarium) After The Astonishing (2016), DT14 (2017), DT15 (2019). The Last Song will feature a guest appearance from then 70 year old Charlie Dominici as the band slowly go backwards to the beginning of their career revisiting iconic melodies of the past. The magnum opus ends with the ending of 'Another Won'. Thus completing the full cycle and finishing the bands career on an emphatic note.

But... those are only 8 songs :|

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Re: DT14 speculation thread
« Reply #31 on: December 01, 2015, 09:23:13 AM »
DAMMIT, what a foolish mistake  :P

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Re: DT14 speculation thread
« Reply #32 on: December 01, 2015, 09:56:26 AM »
DAMMIT, what a foolish mistake  :P

I have an idea how to correct it:
1. The Square Root of All Evil Part 1
2. The Square Root of All Evil Part 2
3. The Answers Lie Within Part 1
4. The Answers Lie Within Part 2
5. These Doubled-Layered Walls Part 1
6. These Doubled-Layered Walls Part 2
7. We Walk Beside Them Part 1
8. We Walk Beside Them Part 2
9. Panic Attacks Part 1
10. Panic Attacks Part 2
11. Never Enough (Never Enough) Part 1
12. Never Enough (Never Enough) Part 2
13. The Twice Sacrificed Sons Part 1
14. The Twice Sacrificed Sons Part 2
15. Hexadecavarium Part 1
16. Hexadecavarium Part 2

As it is easy to notice, every song in itself will be so mindblowingly awesome that anybody has to listen to the song separately in 2 sessions, because otherwise the listener`s head would explode after hearing one song in its complex whole. To give support to any possible victim, DT/Roadrunner (because RR demanded it) already split each song in 2 tracks/parts for the safety of us all.

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Re: DT14 speculation thread
« Reply #33 on: December 01, 2015, 10:01:30 AM »
Just the fact that 16 is 2x8 and 2021 is 16 years after Octavarium AND it still matches up with the

2 years per album cycle.
I guess it wouldn't be as fascinating to you if you were a mathematician lol

But I won't kill your fascination, check this out: 24 is 8x3 and 2037 is 24 years after 8varium, and it would be DT 24 that year, so it would still follow the cycle :O
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Re: DT14 speculation thread
« Reply #34 on: December 01, 2015, 10:11:53 AM »
Just the fact that 16 is 2x8 and 2021 is 16 years after Octavarium AND it still matches up with the

2 years per album cycle.
I guess it wouldn't be as fascinating to you if you were a mathematician lol

But I won't kill your fascination, check this out: 24 is 8x3 and 2037 is 24 years after 8varium, and it would be DT 24 that year, so it would still follow the cycle :O



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