Author Topic: Modern Prog & Prog-Metal discussion thread  (Read 29997 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline jingle.boy

  • I'm so ronery; so sad and ronery
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 44538
  • Gender: Male
  • DTF's resident deceased dictator
Re: Modern Prog & Prog-Metal discussion thread
« Reply #175 on: March 19, 2017, 04:12:33 PM »
Finally, an official release date (May 25th)

Soulspell - Act IV: The Second Big Bang

Oh, and for those not familiar with this project, here's a few of the guest vocalists on this one - Arjen (who also offers guitar and keyboard contributions), Ralf, Daisa, Andre Matos, Ripper, Oliver Hartmann, Fabio, Timo K, and Blaze.

Big fan of parts 1-3.

https://www.facebook.com/soulspellmetalopera/videos/1280108135377204/
That's a word salad - and take it from me, I know word salad
I fear for the day when something happens on the right that is SO nuts that even Stadler says "That's crazy".
Quote from: Puppies_On_Acid
Remember the mark of a great vocalist is if TAC hates them with a special passion

Offline Prog Snob

  • DT.net Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 16727
  • Gender: Male
  • In the end we're left infinitely and utterly alone
Re: Modern Prog & Prog-Metal discussion thread
« Reply #176 on: April 11, 2017, 03:55:09 AM »

Offline jingle.boy

  • I'm so ronery; so sad and ronery
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 44538
  • Gender: Male
  • DTF's resident deceased dictator
Re: Modern Prog & Prog-Metal discussion thread
« Reply #177 on: April 11, 2017, 04:26:35 AM »
I remember trying them on a previous album, and being mostly underwhelmed.  I think someone else had pimped them here on their last album cycle?
That's a word salad - and take it from me, I know word salad
I fear for the day when something happens on the right that is SO nuts that even Stadler says "That's crazy".
Quote from: Puppies_On_Acid
Remember the mark of a great vocalist is if TAC hates them with a special passion

Offline Prog Snob

  • DT.net Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 16727
  • Gender: Male
  • In the end we're left infinitely and utterly alone
Re: Modern Prog & Prog-Metal discussion thread
« Reply #178 on: April 11, 2017, 04:43:44 AM »
It was my first foray into their music; I enjoyed it. It's a bit different.

Offline bl5150

  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 9132
  • Gender: Male
Re: Modern Prog & Prog-Metal discussion thread
« Reply #179 on: April 11, 2017, 04:53:07 AM »
I believe jammindude is the executive pimp for Odd Logic  ;D
"I would just like to say that after all these years of heavy drinking, bright lights and late nights, I still don't need glasses. I drink right out of the bottle." - DLR

www.theguitardojo.com.au

Offline Prog Snob

  • DT.net Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 16727
  • Gender: Male
  • In the end we're left infinitely and utterly alone
Re: Modern Prog & Prog-Metal discussion thread
« Reply #180 on: April 11, 2017, 05:18:48 AM »
 :lol


Online twosuitsluke

  • Posts: 10533
  • Gender: Male
  • Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
Re: Modern Prog & Prog-Metal discussion thread
« Reply #181 on: April 11, 2017, 05:23:04 AM »
I believe jammindude is the executive pimp for Odd Logic  ;D

He definitely is, he's the only reason I heard of them.

Offline Bolsters

  • Lost Boy
  • DTF.org Member
  • *
  • Posts: 5487
  • Gender: Male
  • What a hell of a day to embrace disorder
Re: Modern Prog & Prog-Metal discussion thread
« Reply #182 on: April 11, 2017, 06:04:22 AM »
I remember trying them on a previous album, and being mostly underwhelmed.  I think someone else had pimped them here on their last album cycle?
I sent you one of their songs during your last roulette. You didn't like it. :laugh:

Offline Ben_Jamin

  • Posts: 15690
  • Gender: Male
  • I'm just a man, thrown into existence by the gods
Re: Modern Prog & Prog-Metal discussion thread
« Reply #183 on: April 11, 2017, 07:46:39 AM »
Finally, an official release date (May 25th)

Soulspell - Act IV: The Second Big Bang

Oh, and for those not familiar with this project, here's a few of the guest vocalists on this one - Arjen (who also offers guitar and keyboard contributions), Ralf, Daisa, Andre Matos, Ripper, Oliver Hartmann, Fabio, Timo K, and Blaze.

Big fan of parts 1-3.

https://www.facebook.com/soulspellmetalopera/videos/1280108135377204/


That sounds awesome.
I don't know how they can be so proud of winning with them odds. - Little Big Man
Follow my Spotify:BjamminD

Offline jingle.boy

  • I'm so ronery; so sad and ronery
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 44538
  • Gender: Male
  • DTF's resident deceased dictator
Re: Modern Prog & Prog-Metal discussion thread
« Reply #184 on: April 11, 2017, 09:12:14 AM »
I remember trying them on a previous album, and being mostly underwhelmed.  I think someone else had pimped them here on their last album cycle?
I sent you one of their songs during your last roulette. You didn't like it. :laugh:

So you did.  It was better than Killswitch Engage.  As I look at my tracking of that roulette, it was after the Odd Logic submission that you threw in the towel.   ;)
That's a word salad - and take it from me, I know word salad
I fear for the day when something happens on the right that is SO nuts that even Stadler says "That's crazy".
Quote from: Puppies_On_Acid
Remember the mark of a great vocalist is if TAC hates them with a special passion

Offline Bolsters

  • Lost Boy
  • DTF.org Member
  • *
  • Posts: 5487
  • Gender: Male
  • What a hell of a day to embrace disorder
Re: Modern Prog & Prog-Metal discussion thread
« Reply #185 on: April 11, 2017, 09:27:11 AM »
Yeah, I was scraping the bottom of the barrel for most of that roulette even before that point. I just didn't have the volume of suitable material necessary to compete. Although, I do regret not sticking to the plan the whole way through and sending what I originally had in mind.

Offline Prog Snob

  • DT.net Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 16727
  • Gender: Male
  • In the end we're left infinitely and utterly alone
Re: Modern Prog & Prog-Metal discussion thread
« Reply #186 on: April 11, 2017, 08:41:32 PM »

Offline jingle.boy

  • I'm so ronery; so sad and ronery
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 44538
  • Gender: Male
  • DTF's resident deceased dictator
Re: Modern Prog & Prog-Metal discussion thread
« Reply #187 on: April 21, 2017, 07:56:29 AM »
Just played Blood|Fury|Domination yesterday - I think you referenced it a while ago, John.  Undead as the single was crap, but the rest of the album was pretty nice.

I spun this earlier this morning - more Italian metal.  Male/female vox, where the dude is a dead ringer for Dan Swano.



I remember enjoying their EP a few years back.  Should probably check out their debut now.
That's a word salad - and take it from me, I know word salad
I fear for the day when something happens on the right that is SO nuts that even Stadler says "That's crazy".
Quote from: Puppies_On_Acid
Remember the mark of a great vocalist is if TAC hates them with a special passion

Offline Prog Snob

  • DT.net Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 16727
  • Gender: Male
  • In the end we're left infinitely and utterly alone
Re: Modern Prog & Prog-Metal discussion thread
« Reply #188 on: April 21, 2017, 11:18:33 AM »
Yes, they've went the prog metal route on this one and it just might be their best yet. Universal Death Squad is my personal favorite at the moment.


Offline jingle.boy

  • I'm so ronery; so sad and ronery
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 44538
  • Gender: Male
  • DTF's resident deceased dictator
Re: Modern Prog & Prog-Metal discussion thread
« Reply #189 on: April 21, 2017, 01:42:28 PM »
I've given Epica more than enough tries, and I enjoy them plenty, but something just doesn't click.  And Jansen's growls don't help.  I just keep thinking "why am I not listening to Nightwish, or Xandria, or Anneke or Delain, or ... "  I'm not gaga (as Kramer would say).

:dunno:
That's a word salad - and take it from me, I know word salad
I fear for the day when something happens on the right that is SO nuts that even Stadler says "That's crazy".
Quote from: Puppies_On_Acid
Remember the mark of a great vocalist is if TAC hates them with a special passion

Offline cramx3

  • Chillest of the chill
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 34203
  • Gender: Male
Re: Modern Prog & Prog-Metal discussion thread
« Reply #190 on: April 21, 2017, 01:59:28 PM »
I've given Epica more than enough tries, and I enjoy them plenty, but something just doesn't click.  And Jansen's growls don't help.  I just keep thinking "why am I not listening to Nightwish, or Xandria, or Anneke or Delain, or ... "  I'm not gaga (as Kramer would say).

:dunno:

My reasons, Simone is the best singer of all of them.  She is easily my favorite female vocalists and Im just talking about vocals, not looks  :biggrin: .  But I mentioned this in the Epica thread, the growls are the best they've ever sounded on this album.  I couldn't stand them before, but they were actually enjoyable here.

Offline Prog Snob

  • DT.net Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 16727
  • Gender: Male
  • In the end we're left infinitely and utterly alone
Re: Modern Prog & Prog-Metal discussion thread
« Reply #191 on: April 21, 2017, 02:34:02 PM »
I've given Epica more than enough tries, and I enjoy them plenty, but something just doesn't click.  And Jansen's growls don't help.  I just keep thinking "why am I not listening to Nightwish, or Xandria, or Anneke or Delain, or ... "  I'm not gaga (as Kramer would say).

:dunno:

My reasons, Simone is the best singer of all of them.  She is easily my favorite female vocalists and Im just talking about vocals, not looks  :biggrin: .  But I mentioned this in the Epica thread, the growls are the best they've ever sounded on this album.  I couldn't stand them before, but they were actually enjoyable here.

She's definitely my favorite female singer these days. She's matured so much since Phantom Agony.

I have never been able to get into Xandria or Delain that much. I can listen to them, but they don't click as much for me. I love Anneke, Nightwish, Tarja, Within Temptation, Sirenia, After Forever, etc.


Offline cramx3

  • Chillest of the chill
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 34203
  • Gender: Male
Re: Modern Prog & Prog-Metal discussion thread
« Reply #192 on: April 21, 2017, 02:35:59 PM »
Most of those bands aren't really prog either, or at least not as prog as Epica is.

I really like Delain, but they are pretty straightforward.  Going to see them Monday in the city with Hammerfall.

Offline jingle.boy

  • I'm so ronery; so sad and ronery
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 44538
  • Gender: Male
  • DTF's resident deceased dictator
Re: Modern Prog & Prog-Metal discussion thread
« Reply #193 on: April 21, 2017, 03:00:39 PM »
Most of those bands aren't really prog either, or at least not as prog as Epica is.

I really like Delain, but they are pretty straightforward.  Going to see them Monday in the city with Hammerfall.

Agree on both those points.
That's a word salad - and take it from me, I know word salad
I fear for the day when something happens on the right that is SO nuts that even Stadler says "That's crazy".
Quote from: Puppies_On_Acid
Remember the mark of a great vocalist is if TAC hates them with a special passion

Offline Prog Snob

  • DT.net Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 16727
  • Gender: Male
  • In the end we're left infinitely and utterly alone
Re: Modern Prog & Prog-Metal discussion thread
« Reply #194 on: April 21, 2017, 04:49:17 PM »
I never said they were.  ;)

Offline cramx3

  • Chillest of the chill
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 34203
  • Gender: Male
Re: Modern Prog & Prog-Metal discussion thread
« Reply #195 on: April 21, 2017, 05:09:37 PM »
I never said they were.  ;)

I know you didn't but it's a prog thread so I felt I should point that out in my comparison. 

Offline SoundscapeMN

  • Posts: 6431
  • Gender: Male
Re: Modern Prog & Prog-Metal discussion thread
« Reply #196 on: April 22, 2017, 12:17:32 PM »
Bubblemath

1st album in 15 years "Edit Peptide" comes out on May 26th.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeKdWd7Kuh0&t=0s

riyl: Echolyn, Gentle Giant, Genesis

Offline Prog Snob

  • DT.net Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 16727
  • Gender: Male
  • In the end we're left infinitely and utterly alone
Re: Modern Prog & Prog-Metal discussion thread
« Reply #197 on: April 22, 2017, 12:30:34 PM »
The vocalist reminds me of Mark Evans in certain spots. There is definitely a heavy Genesis influence, like you mentioned.

Offline Prog Snob

  • DT.net Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 16727
  • Gender: Male
  • In the end we're left infinitely and utterly alone
Re: Modern Prog & Prog-Metal discussion thread
« Reply #198 on: April 29, 2017, 09:23:39 PM »
No surprise that this is amazing.

Offline cramx3

  • Chillest of the chill
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 34203
  • Gender: Male
Re: Modern Prog & Prog-Metal discussion thread
« Reply #199 on: June 02, 2017, 09:27:36 PM »
First song from new band VUUR:
VUUR - Days Go By - London

I like it a lot.  Anneke is amazing and the music is awesome.  The mix is not the best IMO, but the song is great.  Definitely reminds me of The Gentle Storm, which makes sense given the band members.

Offline jingle.boy

  • I'm so ronery; so sad and ronery
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 44538
  • Gender: Male
  • DTF's resident deceased dictator
Re: Modern Prog & Prog-Metal discussion thread
« Reply #200 on: June 03, 2017, 05:12:33 AM »
Yeah, looking forward to this one.
That's a word salad - and take it from me, I know word salad
I fear for the day when something happens on the right that is SO nuts that even Stadler says "That's crazy".
Quote from: Puppies_On_Acid
Remember the mark of a great vocalist is if TAC hates them with a special passion

Offline Big Hath

  • DT.net Veteran
  • ****
  • Posts: 5781
Re: Modern Prog & Prog-Metal discussion thread
« Reply #201 on: July 06, 2017, 11:14:50 AM »
I figure a good amount of this album will hit the sweet spot for a few of you around here.  Thinking specifically of RJ and Chad.  Take a listen if you haven't heard it already.

I've really enjoyed what I've heard.

https://barockproject.bandcamp.com/
Winger would be better!

. . . and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.

Offline cramx3

  • Chillest of the chill
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 34203
  • Gender: Male
Re: Modern Prog & Prog-Metal discussion thread
« Reply #202 on: August 04, 2017, 06:20:13 AM »
Just pre-ordered my Anneke signed copy of Vuur's debut album.  All pre-orders are signed.  I'm really not one who collects autographs or even buys CDs anymore, but I saw that this morning and immediately bought it ($27 after shipping and taxes).  I've just become a big Anneke fan over the last year or so and have dug what I've heard from this band so far.

Offline RodrigoAltaf

  • Posts: 2687

Offline cramx3

  • Chillest of the chill
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 34203
  • Gender: Male
Re: Modern Prog & Prog-Metal discussion thread
« Reply #204 on: October 26, 2017, 07:39:05 AM »
I interviewed Anneke, check it out: https://lotsofmuzic.weebly.com/home/new-interview-with-anneke-van-giersbergen-from-the-band-vuur

Awesome  :metal :metal She seems like such an amazing person and while I still haven't received my signed copy of the album, I am excited to be graced by her presence at Prog Power next year.

also, from your interview:

Quote
Rodrigo: What advice would you give to young bands these days, given the state of the music business?

Anneke: Really, just find your own voice and sound. Be yourself. It’s the only way to stand out. Read your contracts and be smart. Use social media and do not mope or be negative. Even if you are down, find out how you can make things better, don’t complain.

Wow, so true and feels like she's talking about a certain someone (I don't think so, but given DTF, that's what comes right to mind).

Offline KevShmev

  • EZBoard Elder
  • *****
  • Posts: 41963
  • Gender: Male
Re: Modern Prog & Prog-Metal discussion thread
« Reply #205 on: October 27, 2017, 05:25:13 PM »
If not for the goddess that is Anneke, that would be one of the ugliest bands ever.  :lol :lol

Offline RodrigoAltaf

  • Posts: 2687
Re: Modern Prog & Prog-Metal discussion thread
« Reply #206 on: October 27, 2017, 07:02:25 PM »
If not for the goddess that is Anneke, that would be one of the ugliest bands ever.  :lol :lol

Indeed!!! I liked her new band for what it is...the Rio and Berlin songs are the best ones IMO

Offline cramx3

  • Chillest of the chill
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 34203
  • Gender: Male
Re: Modern Prog & Prog-Metal discussion thread
« Reply #207 on: November 08, 2017, 11:02:01 AM »
Finally dove into the VUUR album.  Really digging it, it's not an amazing album, but it's really solid.  I'll agree Rio and Berlin are up there, definitely digging Santiago and Mexico City as well.  Anneke's voice is so amazing, but I find the music at times to be a bit lacking.  It's not bad, but feels samey through a lot of the album, not a whole lot of variation in the song writing.  I don't think there's a bad track here, but if I were to say Rio was my favorite, it's not blowing me away.  I'd give the album about a 7.5 or so.  I gave a similar rating to Sons of Apollo but for different reasons.

Been really digging the new band Cyhra though, they aren't prog but their debut album landed the same time as VUUR and Sons of Apollo and I find that album significantly better than either of these bands.  Mostly due to extremely catchy vocal melodies.  I've found the songs I come back to are the ones that have those such as VUUR's Freedom - Rio, Sons of Apollo's Alive.

Offline JayOctavarium

  • I used to be a whorejerk
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 10055
  • Gender: Male
  • But then I took a Hef to the knee...
Re: Modern Prog & Prog-Metal discussion thread
« Reply #208 on: November 08, 2017, 11:08:31 AM »
I'm going to post this just to start following the thread...

I want to secretly check out the bands ya'll are talking about here...
I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

-BlobVanDam on "Scarred"

Offline jingle.boy

  • I'm so ronery; so sad and ronery
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 44538
  • Gender: Male
  • DTF's resident deceased dictator
Re: Modern Prog & Prog-Metal discussion thread
« Reply #209 on: November 08, 2017, 11:20:00 AM »
I'm going to post this just to start following the thread...

I want to secretly check out the bands ya'll are talking about here...

No need to be secretive.

@ Cram... VUUR was a good enough listen, but nothing stood out enough that would compel me to go back to it.  I've seen the name Cyhra in the feed of a few of my FB peeps.  Haven't gotten around to checking it out though.  Guess I have to now.

Couple bands I found recently were Prospekt (thank you RJ), and Eagleheart.  Both had releases this year that kick major ass.  Definitely on the  :metal side of the discussion.
That's a word salad - and take it from me, I know word salad
I fear for the day when something happens on the right that is SO nuts that even Stadler says "That's crazy".
Quote from: Puppies_On_Acid
Remember the mark of a great vocalist is if TAC hates them with a special passion