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Re: Splent's Top 50 "Classical" Works - TOP TEN (#10)
« Reply #175 on: November 10, 2015, 05:55:40 PM »
10. Heinrich Schütz - Die mit Tränen Säen (1648)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k98uqpyQaBg

I sang this piece in a Renaissance ensemble that I was in (even though it's early Baroque, it still maintains a lot of elements of Renaissance music, although you can tell that the lyrical phrases are more homophonic than in most Renaissance music)... it's one of my favorite choral pieces... The translation is

"Those who sow in tears will reap in joy.
He who goes out weeping, bearing seed for sowing
will certainly come again with joy, carrying his sheaves."

The piece starts mysterious, sad, almost mournful (as if the singers were sowing their tears)... the reaping in joy brings a slightly more upbeat section (although in this particular recording it's not as sped up as many people take it)... and then the weeping section is overlapping weeping, in a more polytonal section... then all of a sudden bearing seed for sowing coming again with joy, the ending tempo is faster and is overall more joyful sounding finally ending on a major chord of joy. A wonderful piece. The constant tension/release that I LOVE in Renaissance music is all over the place in VERY appropriate places lyrically. I think the music fits the translation beautifully.
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Re: Splent's Top 50 "Classical" Works - TOP TEN (#10)
« Reply #176 on: November 11, 2015, 12:28:15 AM »
Probably my favourite Schütz, certainly Top 5, and that's saying quite a bit. As the music school of which my choir is a part of is actually called the Heinrich Schütz Music School (mainly because I live in the city in which Schütz lived), we sing Schütz all the time, but so far, few to none of his pieces that I've sung have surpassed this for me.
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Re: Splent's Top 50 "Classical" Works - TOP TEN (#10)
« Reply #177 on: November 11, 2015, 07:46:24 AM »
That surely sounds interesting and I've never heard it before.

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Re: Splent's Top 50 "Classical" Works - TOP TEN (#9)
« Reply #178 on: November 11, 2015, 06:48:26 PM »
OMG I JUST REALIZED I LEFT OFF ONE OF MY FAVORITE PIECES OFF MY TOP 50 ALL TOGETHER... GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Oh well. This will be edited. I'll do another rendition next year :lol

Anyways on with the countdown

9. John Rutter - Gloria (1974)

Pt I - Allegro Vivace "Gloria in Excelsis Deo" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZAOQcUQtvo
Pt II - Andante "Domine Deus" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rALKnDeUTlY
Pt III - Vivace e ritmico "Quoniam tu solus sanctus" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2-EsLZ2iBA

LOVE this piece. I always end up conducting it in the car when I'm listening to it. Sorry for the three videos... my favorite version is the recording of the Cambridge Singers and the only one on youtube was in three separate videos. It's on Spotify.

The joy that comes out of this piece within the first and third movements surrounding the humility of the second movement make this an excellent sacred piece. The intensity and the fugue in the third movement with the giant crescendo to the end just blows me away EVERY TIME. Never fails. One of my favorite pieces of music.
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Re: Splent's Top 50 "Classical" Works - TOP TEN (#9)
« Reply #179 on: November 11, 2015, 07:54:27 PM »
NICE!!  Any more Rutter on the list?
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« Reply #180 on: November 12, 2015, 03:25:45 AM »
Probably only my 3rd favorite Debussy (you can probably guess the other 2).
For the record, what were the other 2?

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Re: Splent's Top 50 "Classical" Works - TOP TEN (#9)
« Reply #181 on: November 12, 2015, 06:40:09 AM »
NICE!!  Any more Rutter on the list?

No, but when i make my choral list he will be well represented. I love Rutter especially when done properly; light and straight, a la the British choral sound.
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Re: Splent's Top 50 "Classical" Works - TOP TEN (#9)
« Reply #182 on: November 12, 2015, 08:25:36 AM »
ok cool.  Are you starting the choral list after this one?  I have a Rutter story, but it's not about this piece.
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« Reply #183 on: November 12, 2015, 08:44:50 AM »
Probably only my 3rd favorite Debussy (you can probably guess the other 2).
For the record, what were the other 2?

La Mer and Prelude to the Afteronoon of a Faun (I haven't picked out the order, but probably La Mer first.)

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Re: Splent's Top 50 "Classical" Works - TOP TEN (#9)
« Reply #184 on: November 12, 2015, 08:56:01 AM »
That Rutter is something I've never heard before, but it's excellent! Yeah that last movement is great!

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Re: Splent's Top 50 "Classical" Works - TOP TEN (#8)
« Reply #185 on: November 14, 2015, 08:38:27 AM »
8. Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina - Sicut Cervus (1584)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mdmco61Htk

This is one of the most celestial pieces of choral music ever written. That's all I can say. I get chills and tears every time I hear this piece. Based on Psalm 42:1 (As the deer pants for the water, so my soul longs for thee, O God), thie piece is so beautiful...

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Re: Splent's Top 50 "Classical" Works - TOP TEN (#8)
« Reply #186 on: November 14, 2015, 09:18:13 PM »
simply beautiful piece.

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Re: Splent's Top 50 "Classical" Works - TOP TEN (#8)
« Reply #187 on: November 15, 2015, 11:22:41 AM »
It is indeed beautiful, but I'm no big fan of that specific version - it's too fast in my opinion.

While not a professional recording, I much prefer this version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0wBIk9-pr8 - it also includes the second part of the piece that, for me, is just as essential as the first and just as brilliant; I've never performed them apart and I don't think I would ever want to.
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Re: Splent's Top 50 "Classical" Works - TOP TEN (#7)
« Reply #188 on: November 15, 2015, 04:41:40 PM »
7. George Frederic Handel - Water Music (1717)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcknsYVgdkM

The recording also have Music for the royal fireworks, but I love this. This is a great piece of music from one of my favorite composers. I love the fact that it was first performed on the Thames back almost 300 years ago. I wish I as there for it.
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Re: Splent's Top 50 "Classical" Works - TOP TEN (#6)
« Reply #189 on: November 16, 2015, 05:04:38 PM »
6. Antonio Vivaldi - Four Seasons (1723)

SPRING: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enl_2-LwFOk
SUMMER: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4W2DhUHzV8
AUTUMN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSM-mzRljP0
WINTER: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHMq2D9rtSc

WINTER MUSIC VIDEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syDtrOZWIH8

Probably one of the first instances of program music, Vivaldi even wrote poems to go along with each movement. I think his music compliments the poems perfecty.

This was one of the pieces of music that first got me into classical music. I was obsessed with The Weather Channel at the time, and then Gil Shaham and Orpheus recorded the Four Seasons and a music video to go along with it, which aired on TWC quite often. It's my favorite rendition of the four seasons, after hearing numerous. I went out and got the CD, which came with a CD-ROM where I could watch the video on my computer (quad speed CD-ROM... remember those!?) Anyways, enjoy.
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Re: Splent's Top 50 "Classical" Works - TOP TEN (#6)
« Reply #190 on: November 17, 2015, 04:12:29 PM »
So... Any guesses on what the top 5 will be? 😊
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Re: Splent's Top 50 "Classical" Works - TOP TEN (#6)
« Reply #191 on: November 17, 2015, 04:38:11 PM »
Stravinsky The Rite of Spring
Beethoven Symphony 9
Mozart 40
Tchaikovsky Piano Concerto 1
Tchaikovsky 5
Tchaikovsky Swan Lake

any of those
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Re: Splent's Top 50 "Classical" Works - TOP TEN (#6)
« Reply #192 on: November 17, 2015, 06:37:26 PM »
Mozart 40 and Tchaikovsky 1 are already used

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You are right about 1 or 2 tho
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Re: Splent's Top 50 "Classical" Works - TOP TEN (#6)
« Reply #193 on: November 17, 2015, 06:38:48 PM »
Mozart 40 and Tchaikovsky 1 are already used

 ;)

You are right about 1 or 2 tho

I didn't bother to go through the list again  ;)
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Re: Splent's Top 50 "Classical" Works - TOP TEN (#6)
« Reply #194 on: November 17, 2015, 06:46:18 PM »
So... Any guesses on what the top 5 will be? 😊

post us the whole list to this point and we can guess

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Re: Splent's Top 50 "Classical" Works - TOP TEN (#5)
« Reply #195 on: November 17, 2015, 06:47:20 PM »
5. Igor Stravinsky - The Rite of Spring (1913)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f76eZfI5pOM

Lucien got it.

This piece was amazing. Like many, I was first introduced to this piece through Disney's Fantasia. The interesting thing about it was when Fantasia was produced Stravinsky was still alive, and when he went to the studio someone was like "Do you want to look at the score?" and Stravinsky was like  :yeahright "I KNOW the score..." and the other guy was like "Well, we made a few changes..."

You can bet THAT went well... about as well as the premier night when everyone rioted... most people have heard that story. Who can blame them? All borders in music were knocked down with this piece of music.  Hard not to imagine volcanoes and dinosaurs still, but I really don't anymore. This piece is a tribal piece, a sacrifice takes place during the course of the ballet... If you look there is a performance of the piece with Nijinky's original choreography (again, very tribal, part of the reason the people rioted)... but I LOVE this piece.
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Re: Splent's Top 50 "Classical" Works - TOP TEN (#6)
« Reply #196 on: November 17, 2015, 06:48:09 PM »
So... Any guesses on what the top 5 will be? 😊

post us the whole list to this point and we can guess

Stravinsky Rite of Spring
Vivaldi Four Seasons
Handel Water Music
Palestrina Sicut Cervus
Rutter Gloria
Schutz Die Mit Traenen Saen
Beethoven's 7
Tallis Spem In Alium
Debussy Clair De Lune
Beethoven's 6
Mozart Requiem
Stravinsky Firebird
Beethoven's 5
Tchaik 1812
Rach Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini
Bach Brandenburg Concertos (All? 1 at a time?)
Glass Mad Rush
Mozart 40
Handel Arrival of the Queen of Sheba
Palestrina Missa Papae Marcelli
Ives 4
Bernstein Chichester Psalms
Glass Metamorphosis
Puccini La Boheme
Whitacre Sleep
Rachmoninoff Concerto 3
Copland Fanfare for the Common Man
Dvorak 9
Haydn Creation
Mozart The Magic Flute
Copland Appalachian Spring
Bach Double Violin Concerto
Orff Carmina Burana
Handel Zadok The Priest
Byrd Mass in 5 voices
Beethoven Sonata 14 (moonlight)
Reich Piano Phase
Mussorgsky Pictures
Tallis Lamentations of Jeremiah
Lauridsen O Magnum
Gesualdo O Vos Omnes
Mozart Sonata K333
Telemann Water Music
Reich Clapping Music
Saint Saens Danse Macabre
Mendelssohn Elijah
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Re: Splent's Top 50 "Classical" Works - TOP TEN (#5)
« Reply #197 on: November 17, 2015, 06:56:17 PM »
The Rite of Spring would probably be my #2 or #1.

Some more guesses:

Shostakovich 5, 7
Mahler 2
Saint-Saens 3
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Re: Splent's Top 50 "Classical" Works - TOP TEN (#5)
« Reply #198 on: November 17, 2015, 07:12:31 PM »
The Rite of Spring would probably be my #2 or #1.

Some more guesses:

Shostakovich 5, 7
Mahler 2
Saint-Saens 3

I will be honest, I'm bad, I'm not familiar enough with Shostakovich or Mahler to include them on the list (I've heard the pieces, but not enough to be blown away or remember them... it was a LONG time ago too... I may ask people to do a recommend thread after my top 50 is done). From what I HAVE heard by Shostakovich I'd probably enjoy them immensely.

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« Reply #199 on: November 17, 2015, 07:22:47 PM »
I'm guessing Beethoven 9 is one of them. Having a hard time predicting the rest of them based on your list.

Yes, Rite of Spring is a very awesome piece.  I will always prefer The Firebird, but it is just so evocative that I can't help but get drawn in.

And since I didn't comment on it, yeah Four Seasons is great too.

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Re: Splent's Top 50 "Classical" Works - TOP TEN (#5)
« Reply #200 on: November 17, 2015, 08:06:52 PM »
The Rite of Spring would probably be my #2 or #1.

Some more guesses:

Shostakovich 5, 7
Mahler 2
Saint-Saens 3

I will be honest, I'm bad, I'm not familiar enough with Shostakovich or Mahler to include them on the list (I've heard the pieces, but not enough to be blown away or remember them... it was a LONG time ago too... I may ask people to do a recommend thread after my top 50 is done). From what I HAVE heard by Shostakovich I'd probably enjoy them immensely.

A preview of what's to come:
1. Most people have heard
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3. Everyone has heard
4. Very few have heard

Let's just say if you had known Mahler 2 well, it would probably be #1 on here (it's a choral symphony like Beethoven 9)
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Re: Splent's Top 50 "Classical" Works - TOP TEN (#5)
« Reply #201 on: November 18, 2015, 11:01:28 AM »
5. Igor Stravinsky - The Rite of Spring (1913)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f76eZfI5pOM

That interpretation is good for a conservatory orchestra, but is damn bland compared to the great interpretations out there... 5 minutes in and I'm already sleeping. Ancerl, Salonen, Boulez are great, but my favorite version is the conducted by Robert Craft, a great little known Schönberg and Stravinsky conductor, who worked closely with the latter but died a few days ago.

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Re: Splent's Top 50 "Classical" Works - TOP TEN (#5)
« Reply #202 on: November 18, 2015, 12:02:31 PM »
The Rite of Spring would probably be my #2 or #1.

Some more guesses:

Shostakovich 5, 7
Mahler 2
Saint-Saens 3

I will be honest, I'm bad, I'm not familiar enough with Shostakovich or Mahler to include them on the list (I've heard the pieces, but not enough to be blown away or remember them... it was a LONG time ago too... I may ask people to do a recommend thread after my top 50 is done). From what I HAVE heard by Shostakovich I'd probably enjoy them immensely.

A preview of what's to come:
1. Most people have heard
2. Most people have heard
3. Everyone has heard
4. Very few have heard

Let's just say if you had known Mahler 2 well, it would probably be #1 on here (it's a choral symphony like Beethoven 9)

I intend on listening to it soon; it's just SO LONG and I find that daunting, at least with my schedule right now.
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Re: Splent's Top 50 "Classical" Works - TOP TEN (#5)
« Reply #203 on: November 18, 2015, 03:23:16 PM »
Rite of Spring is amazing - not sure if I prefer it to Firebird, but they are both amazing pieces of music.

Four Seasons is nice too, but it never really drew me in like Rite of Spring and Firebird did, and I'm not a huge fan of Händel.

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Re: Splent's Top 50 "Classical" Works - TOP TEN (#5)
« Reply #204 on: November 20, 2015, 09:50:51 PM »
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Re: Splent's Top 50 "Classical" Works - TOP TEN (#4)
« Reply #205 on: November 21, 2015, 08:12:49 PM »
#4 - Leonard Bernstein - Symphony #2 "The Age of Anxiety" (1949/1965)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-aU2Se1RHw

In 2002 I was working at a music festival in Door County, Wisconsin, and first heard this piece, and was absolutely fascinated by it; not just it's difficulty and complexity, but by the fact that I hadn't heard this piece by Bernstein before (after being familiar with works like West Side Story and Candide) and how this piece was actually program music. For my 20th century music class in college, we were required to analyse a piece and I picked this piece in a heartbeat, partially because I knew no one else would because of the fact that it's not extremely well known or performed often. I also wanted to know what was the motivation behind it, and why it was called the Age of Anxiety.

It's in fact based on a poem by W.H. Auden. When writing my paper I read the poem and then analysed the score and music. It's in fact not a direct influence, although the overall premise of the poem and the characters are the basis for the piece. The piece takes place during the beginning of WWII, where 4 characters meet at a bar and basically hit it off and become friends through the events happening in the world (drowning their sorrows, easing the pain, and the like), and each explaining their own "meaning of life" while acknowledging the others as valid (not dismissing at all)... the way Bernstein does this is through a set of theme and variations, very different from what most people think theme and variations are (he varies the melody immediately preceding the variation, and then a new variation begins based on thematic material preceding that, and so on. 

The second half of the symphony begins at bar close, when the 4 are at their lowest, on their way to the girls' apartment for a nightcap, and they end up partying it up to kind of ease that grief in a mad jazzy frenzy (the most "Bernstein sounding" part of the symphony, with complex rhythms and percussion)... at the end of that, the frenzy is over... the grief is over... but the piece ends with a beautiful piano cadenza and then a triumphant return of the orchestra, Bernstein's point being that "all that is left is faith". 

If anyone wants to read my paper, I can send it to you... I'm not posting it here. But I may revisit it and re-read the poem and see if any of what I wrote over 10 years ago has changed in my living experiences.
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« Reply #206 on: November 21, 2015, 09:18:18 PM »
yeah that jazzy section was pretty great.  really impressed with the piano work.  shout out to the guys playing jazzy celesta and harp!  not sure how I feel about the rest of the symphony though.  the end is grand, but the first half is a little too drab for my tastes.

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Re: Splent's Top 50 "Classical" Works - TOP TEN (#3)
« Reply #207 on: November 25, 2015, 12:49:07 PM »
3. Ludwig Von Beethoven - Symphony #9 (1824)

Oh you've heard it.  My computer is acting up (slow) so I'm not posting yotube link right now.

No explanation necessary. This symphony changed the game. And sorry for not typing much, I'm in a hurry. I'll type more with #2.
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« Reply #208 on: November 27, 2015, 02:36:52 PM »
I was never a big fan of Beethoven, but I had to admit that the 9th has its moments.
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« Reply #209 on: November 29, 2015, 09:55:26 PM »
2. George Gershwin - Rhapsody in Blue (1924)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH2PH0auTUU

This was the piece that got me into classical music. I was about 7, and I heard the theme on the international forecast on the weather channel (brought to them by United Airlines, hence why they played it)... it was like a really synthy version that I liked, and then I heard the slow section play and enjoyed it. My dad had a record of it and let me play it and I was immediately hooked.

While this piece wasn't the first piece to combine classical and jazz per se, this was the first piece in that regard to have any sort of success. It was a huge hit after being heard in NYC. In fact, the opening gliss of the clarinet was added at rehearsal after the clarinetist did it as a joke, but Gershwin loved it. He also wrote it in a hurry... apparently he was approached by Paul Whiteman to do it, and initially declined because of time constraints... then read in a newspaper that he was doing it and then heard from Whiteman that another jazz composer was going to steal the idea if he didn't do it, so he ended up writing the music (sans the piano part, which was improvised by Gershwin at the initial performance) in about 5 weeks time.
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