Falcon and Winter Soldier Official Thread - How they gonna use that power?

[ariich]

One other (fairly minor) nit I have is that all the flagsmashers became elite level combat fighters?  Is that supposed to be something that comes with the super serum?  Like c'mon... these radicals all of a sudden can go toe-to-toe with Walker and Bucky?  I had trouble swallowing that.  I get that agains Sam and Battlestar they can just over power them with brute strength.  But 1:1 with other super soldiers??

I sort of agree but I think this is a broader "suspension of disbelief" feature in the MCU and indeed superhero type shows/movies in general. The Flag-Smashers didn't particularly stand out to me in that regard.

[Stadler]

One other (fairly minor) nit I have is that all the flagsmashers became elite level combat fighters?  Is that supposed to be something that comes with the super serum?  Like c'mon... these radicals all of a sudden can go toe-to-toe with Walker and Bucky?  I had trouble swallowing that.  I get that agains Sam and Battlestar they can just over power them with brute strength.  But 1:1 with other super soldiers??

I sort of agree but I think this is a broader "suspension of disbelief" feature in the MCU and indeed superhero type shows/movies in general. The Flag-Smashers didn't particularly stand out to me in that regard.

That's a common trope, ariich says.  The old days of the Batman TV show where the thugs were fat goons that fall over with a swift kick are kind of done.

[ariich]

One other (fairly minor) nit I have is that all the flagsmashers became elite level combat fighters?  Is that supposed to be something that comes with the super serum?  Like c'mon... these radicals all of a sudden can go toe-to-toe with Walker and Bucky?  I had trouble swallowing that.  I get that agains Sam and Battlestar they can just over power them with brute strength.  But 1:1 with other super soldiers??

I sort of agree but I think this is a broader "suspension of disbelief" feature in the MCU and indeed superhero type shows/movies in general. The Flag-Smashers didn't particularly stand out to me in that regard.

That's a common trope, ariich says.  The old days of the Batman TV show where the thugs were fat goons that fall over with a swift kick are kind of done.

I should add that it also happens plenty with heroes too. As much as I thoroughly enjoy them, the DC Arrowverse shows on the CW do that all the time.

[bosk1]

Yeah, heroes and villains alike get overpowered/underpowered at any given moment to serve whatever the story arc is.

[Zantera]

I feel like this might be the first MCU related thing I won't be able to finish. Got 2 episodes left but just very little interest or motivation to get through it. First few episodes were okay but I could see the John Walker arc coming a mile away and I feel more interested in how this will impact future movies/shows (which I can get just by reading a wiki summary) than actually seeing the season wrapping up.

I wouldn't say it's a bad show or anything, it just feels very by the numbers unfortunately.

[kaos2900]

It gets better and I don't think it's by the numbers at all. There's a reason why it's only 6 episodes. The fact that they didn't draw it out was smart.

[Adami]

I feel like this might be the first MCU related thing I won't be able to finish. Got 2 episodes left but just very little interest or motivation to get through it. First few episodes were okay but I could see the John Walker arc coming a mile away and I feel more interested in how this will impact future movies/shows (which I can get just by reading a wiki summary) than actually seeing the season wrapping up.

I wouldn't say it's a bad show or anything, it just feels very by the numbers unfortunately.

That's a shame. I can't say I see what you're seeing. I don't think they expected John Walker's turn to be a surprise. It was telegraphed pretty strong from the get go. They introduced him as someone to feel suspicious of at the very least.

But maybe it's just not your thing. That's cool.

[Zantera]

I feel like this might be the first MCU related thing I won't be able to finish. Got 2 episodes left but just very little interest or motivation to get through it. First few episodes were okay but I could see the John Walker arc coming a mile away and I feel more interested in how this will impact future movies/shows (which I can get just by reading a wiki summary) than actually seeing the season wrapping up.

I wouldn't say it's a bad show or anything, it just feels very by the numbers unfortunately.

That's a shame. I can't say I see what you're seeing. I don't think they expected John Walker's turn to be a surprise. It was telegraphed pretty strong from the get go. They introduced him as someone to feel suspicious of at the very least.

But maybe it's just not your thing. That's cool.

I feel like while the characters are fun, the plot just isn't that interesting. I guess if you use Wandavision for contrast, the central mystery in that show kept it engaging for me at least. I guess the plot in this just doesn't feel very interesting. :/

[Grappler]

I feel like this might be the first MCU related thing I won't be able to finish. Got 2 episodes left but just very little interest or motivation to get through it. First few episodes were okay but I could see the John Walker arc coming a mile away and I feel more interested in how this will impact future movies/shows (which I can get just by reading a wiki summary) than actually seeing the season wrapping up.

I wouldn't say it's a bad show or anything, it just feels very by the numbers unfortunately.

That's a shame. I can't say I see what you're seeing. I don't think they expected John Walker's turn to be a surprise. It was telegraphed pretty strong from the get go. They introduced him as someone to feel suspicious of at the very least.

But maybe it's just not your thing. That's cool.

I feel like while the characters are fun, the plot just isn't that interesting. I guess if you use Wandavision for contrast, the central mystery in that show kept it engaging for me at least. I guess the plot in this just doesn't feel very interesting. :/

Marvel fully admitted that the shows would be different and that Falcon & The Winter Soldier would be more action-oriented and more typical "Marvel." 

I loved the show.