DT playing soccer on stage

[ToT-147]

Indeed!..   

During Instrumedley (Ytse Jam section) JR gives the kick off under MP's command (as usual ) and then the Johns start to pass the ball each other.. Well, at least this got my attention for the country I'm from (Argentina: Maradona, Messi, yes, all that )..

https://youtu.be/WqsFMghG_NU

AND, also this is the first video I upload in about a year... so, there you have..

Since we're on it, do you remember anything like this?.. I mean, some unpredictable stuff like this?, which, OTOH, are not that unpredictable when we're talking about them..

[bosk1]

Actually, I think they are playing soccer, not football.

But yeah...

[Darkstarshades]

It's not like they use their feet in anyway during "American Football"
So the term is correct.

[ToT-147]

Hahaha.. 

Yeah, both of you are right.. But I changed it anyway.. Argentinian mistake.. Here we call it "fútbol" (as for "foot-ball")

[rumborak]

It's called football everywhere,  except where the sport of hand-egg is called football.

[TheCountOfNYC]

It's not like they use their feet in anyway during "American Football"
So the term is correct.

It's called football because that's they distance between the offense and defense at the line of scrimmage.

Anyway, that video is great and it's things like this that make them such a unique band.

[Raise the Drum]

hahahaha it seemed like they were in a game show and Portnoy was the host 

Weeeelcome to DTMania!!

[rumborak]

It's not like they use their feet in anyway during "American Football"
So the term is correct.

It's called football because that's they distance between the offense and defense at the line of scrimmage.

Lol, no. It's called football because like soccer (which is a slurred version of "association football ") and rugby  (which is really just  "football according to the rules in the city of Rugby"), American Football originated in England,  but was eventually modified to virtually drop all involvement of feet. If you look at Gaelic football,  you can see an interesting hybrid between the two.

[SystematicThought]

I remember my chemistry professor last year talking about seeing this at the Tabernacle back on this tour. He thought it was the coolest thing

[DarkLord_Lalinc]

Actually, I think they are playing soccer, not football.

But yeah...

[ToT-147]

If you look at Gaelic football,  you can see an interesting hybrid between the two.

Thanks for the data.. I checked it out, it's amazing!..

[erwinrafael]

I don't know what's more awesome. This or Mangini and LaBrie singing Sometimes When We Touch. 

Crazy things happen in South America.

[King Postwhore]

It's called football everywhere,  except where the sport of hand-egg is called football.

Yup.

Bosk1 you stubborn man you.

[cramx3]

It's not like they use their feet in anyway during "American Football"
So the term is correct.

Incorrect, kicking the football is used in American Football and is integral to the game, not the same way it is in soccer and also not the reason it is called football, but felt I should make the factual correction here.


Anyway, carry on.

[Pax]

It's ''football'' in most of the world. It's ''soccer'' in Murrica. Therefore, no, ''football'' is not incorrect at all.

[ToT-147]

Crazy things happen in South America.

Only that this one was in Baltimore, USA.. For that tour they weren't here..

[425]

Football.

And he only gets one try to get it ten feet up in the air and through a space thinner than an association football goal. While 1.9m 90+kg men rush at him to try and block it. After that kneeling guy has to catch a ball—that someone else threw 7 meters between his own legs—and put it down in just the right way within a split second. The kicker is the player who most often is responsible for the single mistake that causes a loss. He only occasionally gets to be the hero, and if he misses one at the wrong time... they'll remember him forever. He's the most important individual player out there.


You know what, though, I really don't care what sport you call football, but the "hand egg" stuff is just... It's like calling hockey "ice stick" or tennis "sieve ball." It's either "football," "American football" or "gridiron football." The other one is either "football," "association football" or "soccer." Wikipedia, an international website, uses "American football" and "Association football." Honestly, these two sports can pretty easily share the football name in international conversations.

[Outcrier]

Actually, I think they are playing soccer, not football.

But yeah...

Shame on you for derailing this thread i'm just joking, don't ban me plz

[Elite]

"The word "football", when used in reference to a specific game can mean any one of those described above. Because of this, much friendly controversy has occurred over the term football, primarily because it is used in different ways in different parts of the English-speaking world. Most often, the word "football" is used to refer to the code of football that is considered dominant within a particular region. So, effectively, what the word "football" means usually depends on where one says it.

Association football is simply known as football in most countries, except where other codes of football are dominant. Examples of such countries include the United States, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand, where it is known as soccer. American football is always football in the United States. In francophone Quebec, where Canadian football is more popular, the Canadian code is known as football while American football is known as Football américain and association football is known as le soccer."

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football#Use_of_the_word_.22football.22

Yes, carry on.

[hefdaddy42]

If that occurred in Baltimore, in the USA, the correct term is soccer.

If it happened in Italy (or, really, practically anywhere else in the world), the correct term would be football.

But in the end, who cares?  It's DT being goofy on stage.

[ToT-147]

Also, this forum and the band are from USA... and I guess the vast majority of the DTF members are from there too, so... But I liked the unexpected debate about the word.. Matter of semantics, I suppose..

Either way, to go back to topic, here's the entire show, if you want to see it.. The link shows the end of Instrumedley, where Portnoy plays a little bit with the ball.. Or at least he tries..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzeqxhWgtZE&feature=youtu.be&t=3494

[Mladen]

This reminded me of a joke from Sports show with Norm Macdonald: "Why do English people call it football if they play it with a soccer ball?" 

Nice footage, by the way.

[Architeuthis]

Actually, I think they are playing soccer, not football.

But yeah...

Can't wait for week 8,  Seattle Seahawks at Dallas!  I would like to see those teams meet in the NFC championship,,

[SystematicThought]

What was the point of that backdrop on the Six Degrees tour? All footage I see of the concerts, there is nothing ever on it--I thought it was a screen.

[rumborak]

And he only gets one try to get it ten feet up in the air and through a space thinner than an association football goal. While 1.9m 90+kg men rush at him to try and block it. After that kneeling guy has to catch a ball—that someone else threw 7 meters between his own legs—and put it down in just the right way within a split second. The kicker is the player who most often is responsible for the single mistake that causes a loss. He only occasionally gets to be the hero, and if he misses one at the wrong time... they'll remember him forever. He's the most important individual player out there.

I don't think anybody is disputing the athletic aspect of American football. But it's neither called football because of the scrimmage line distance, nor because there's *some* kicking involved that can be crucial to the game. It's simply called football because it actually *used* to be a foot-dominated sport way back when in England. Just as the ball *used* to be round.

[hefdaddy42]

So you are saying that American football has evolved from a prior football species.

Sounds OK to me.

[rumborak]

Exactly. American Football, deprived of genetic diversity, quickly resorted to incest, and thus accumulated a ton of harmful mutation, making it look like Chunk from the Goonies.

 

[King Postwhore]

That would explain the big pile ups they have.

[Outcrier]

Here in Brazil, the only translation we have for both Soccer and Football is "Futebol".

So:

Soccer = Futebol

Football = Futebol, but we can call it Futebol Americano (American Football, obviously) too.

[DarkLord_Lalinc]

I like where this thread went.

[425]

I don't think anybody is disputing the athletic aspect of American football. But it's neither called football because of the scrimmage line distance, nor because there's *some* kicking involved that can be crucial to the game. It's simply called football because it actually *used* to be a foot-dominated sport way back when in England. Just as the ball *used* to be round.

I didn't dispute that. I just pointed out the absolutely vital role played by the kicker, which is anathema to the "hurr durr do they even use feet lol shud be girl so witty" argument.

Also, a ball that isn't round is still a ball. Not an egg.

[erwinrafael]

Crazy things happen in South America.

Only that this one was in Baltimore, USA.. For that tour they weren't here..

Oh, I was confused. Hahaha

[Outcrier]

Also, a ball that isn't round is still a ball. Not an egg.

Eat my eggs and balls 

[rumborak]

Also, a ball that isn't round is still a ball. Not an egg.

Ehhh, gonna have to disagree with you on that one. Several reasons:

- Hand someone an egg, and have them describe the shape. I bet you they will not say "it's shaped like a ball".
- I think if you asked people to list key aspects of balls, they will say "spherical" and "it rolls". Neither apply to the inflated egg.

I think it's just the same as with the "foot" part. Historically it *was* a ball indeed, but it changed shape to no longer really be a ball, but it's just continued to be called that way. I mean, it's the same with skeet shooting, where the objects still are called "pigeons". Can a disk-shaped object thus be a pigeon? Not really. It's just that because of history, people continue to use the term.

[425]

Oxford English Dictionary: "A solid or hollow spherical or egg-shaped object which is thrown, kicked, hit, or otherwise propelled in a game."