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Re: The jingle Roulette Trilogy - Round 3 - headphones engaged
« Reply #630 on: October 05, 2015, 01:34:04 PM »

- excellent guitar work; vocally, I was ok with it (which surprised me)

- Nothing wrong with it - would've definitely have floated my boat 25 years ago.

- tremendous solo - emotion, passion, soul - to steal a line from RJ, it could stop a bar fight. 


Mine is one of these. Maybe all of them! ;D

To steal a line that Mystery used on me... I can neither confirm or deny this.
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Re: The jingle Roulette Trilogy - Round 3 - headphones engaged
« Reply #631 on: October 05, 2015, 01:39:40 PM »
Pretty obvious which one mine is, but glad you did enjoy it somewhat. Wish you would have enjoyed APC a little more.

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Re: The jingle Roulette Trilogy - Round 3 - headphones engaged
« Reply #632 on: October 05, 2015, 02:03:17 PM »

- excellent guitar work; vocally, I was ok with it (which surprised me)

- Nothing wrong with it - would've definitely have floated my boat 25 years ago.

- tremendous solo - emotion, passion, soul - to steal a line from RJ, it could stop a bar fight. 


Mine is one of these. Maybe all of them! ;D

To steal a line that Mystery used on me... I can neither confirm or deny this.


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Confirmation-Occurs when someone says "I can neither confirm or deny this"
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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Re: The jingle Roulette Trilogy - Round 3 - headphones engaged
« Reply #633 on: October 05, 2015, 02:17:30 PM »
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Confirmation-Occurs when someone says "I can neither confirm or deny this"

I can neither confirm or deny this

/continue loop endlessly
That's a word salad - and take it from me, I know word salad
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Re: The jingle Roulette Trilogy - Round 3 - headphones engaged
« Reply #634 on: October 05, 2015, 03:38:19 PM »
Hmmm...not sure which is mine.  Could possibly be the last one even.
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Re: The jingle Roulette Trilogy - Round 3 - headphones engaged
« Reply #635 on: October 05, 2015, 05:14:32 PM »
11 participants + 3 tag-team submissions = 14 songs
comments made = 8

Some of you are right
Some of you are wrong
Some of you I didn't even
Comment on your song

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Re: The jingle Roulette Trilogy - Round 3 - headphones engaged
« Reply #636 on: October 05, 2015, 05:28:34 PM »
Everyone else, except Wolfking is wrong.

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Re: The jingle Roulette Trilogy - Round 3 - headphones engaged
« Reply #637 on: October 06, 2015, 10:18:43 AM »
Listening and ratings were complete.  I just have to take someone WAY down based on an email I just got.  :neverusethis:

You know who you are.

Also, going to throw some spice into Round 4.  Nothing that will directly affect any scores, just a little extra incentive to score well.
That's a word salad - and take it from me, I know word salad
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Re: The jingle Roulette Trilogy - Round 3 - headphones engaged
« Reply #638 on: October 06, 2015, 10:32:12 AM »
Listening and ratings were complete.  I just have to take someone WAY down based on an email I just got.  :neverusethis:

You know who you are.

Also, going to throw some spice into Round 4.  Nothing that will directly affect any scores, just a little extra incentive to score well.

Shit, I knew I should've waited with that e-mail until you announce the results. :facepalm:
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Re: The jingle Roulette Trilogy - Round 3 - headphones engaged
« Reply #639 on: October 06, 2015, 12:19:02 PM »
Listening and ratings were complete.  I just have to take someone WAY down based on an email I just got.  :neverusethis:

You know who you are.

Also, going to throw some spice into Round 4.  Nothing that will directly affect any scores, just a little extra incentive to score well.

spite?

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Re: The jingle Roulette Trilogy - Round 3 - headphones engaged
« Reply #640 on: October 06, 2015, 12:20:54 PM »
Listening and ratings were complete.  I just have to take someone WAY down based on an email I just got.  :neverusethis:

You know who you are.

Also, going to throw some spice into Round 4.  Nothing that will directly affect any scores, just a little extra incentive to score well.

spite?

You say it like it's a bad thing.

BRB... got another score to adjust.   :lol :lol
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Re: The jingle Roulette Trilogy - Round 3 - headphones engaged
« Reply #641 on: October 06, 2015, 12:23:33 PM »
You can't return a suit for spite and you can't adjust a score for spite lol

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Re: The jingle Roulette Trilogy - Round 3 - headphones engaged
« Reply #642 on: October 06, 2015, 12:35:04 PM »
I'm more George than Jerry... I can do anything for spite!

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Re: The jingle Roulette Trilogy - Round 3 - headphones engaged
« Reply #643 on: October 06, 2015, 05:01:08 PM »
Listening and ratings were complete.  I just have to take someone WAY down based on an email I just got.  :neverusethis:


Gay porn?
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Re: The jingle Roulette Trilogy - Round 3 - headphones engaged
« Reply #644 on: October 06, 2015, 05:02:02 PM »
Ok, this time around, no teasing on the score - I know where things are standing.

11:  bl5150 - Silent Call / First to Know
An almost flawless blend of prog/melodic metal.  I don't really have a lot of depth to go into in analyzing this.  Vocal tone landed right in the sweet-spot; great guitar riffs and use of keyboards; a rhythm section that does more than keep the beat, but doesn't get too over-the-top.  Melodic metal with a taste of progi-ness… very much in the realm of Thunderstone, Masterplan, and Cloudscape.  Ok, maybe I did have some analyzing to do.

10: senecadawg2 - Voodoo Circle / Broken Heart Syndrome
Right in my wheelhouse.  Had all the right elements of a great melodic rock/metal song nice rhythm, with little guitar fills all over the place, a decent solo (nothing too flashy), and a fantastic vocalist - which I've heard before - cheater pants!  Both you and Paul playing vocalists from my last two AOTY.  Well, nothing wrong with cheating, in fact, I encourage it.  :biggrin:  Good play.

9: Lowdz - Abydos / Far Away From Heaven
You're a fuckin cheater too!  Playing off my current man-love of Andy Kuntz's voice (boy I sure hope he pronounces that with a hard "U" :lol... actually, he'd be more badass if it's a soft "U" :lol).  THIS is a killer power ballad.  Everything about it was top notch.  Slow build, dat scream at 3:20 that builds right into the climactic instrumental section :hat.  Substituting sympnonic/orchestral elements where you'd normally have a guitar line was a nice little twist.

8: TAC - UFO / Profession of Violence
With a nice blues-rock-ballad feel, this one doesn't do too much - until the outro.  What a tremendous solo - emotion, passion, soul - to steal a line from RJ, it could stop a bar fight.  This is when guitarists knew how to expertly craft, and put their heart and soul into a solo.  This solo was probably the best part of the entire round.

7: Evermind - Temperance / The Fourth Season
Really digging the instrumental section here - clearly there's a huge Nightwish influence in play.  Vocally, there were some really nice melodies, but I liked it better when she wasn't going all operatic - she's good, but certainly no Floor or Tarja.  Really love the rich guitar sound and symphonic accompaniment.  Just a solid song all the way around.

6: jjrock88 - Circle II Circle / Sentenced
It's no surprise I sometimes struggle with Savatage (mostly from a vocal perspective), so I wasn't sure how I was going to react with CIIC.  What this song delivered though was excellent guitar work, and vocally, I was ok with it (which surprised me).  But the key word is 'ok'.  Normally Zak is a struggle for me to get through, but this was ok.  Musically it kept me interested throughout.  This would've done better last round, but suffers from a crop of really good tracks this round.  Great metal solo without the need to over-shred things.  Good variety of guitar melodies and riffs.  I dug it.

5.5: jjrock88 - Armoured Saint / Last Train Home
I wasn't overly impressed on first listen, but it rocked way better on listen #2 (and subsequent ones) with headphones.  Pretty run-of-the-mill melodic rock, but it's still a pretty good mill.  Everything about it was just right - good vocals, good composition, nice melodies - but nothing that wow’d me - so it’s a middle of the pack ranking.  Ranking wise, it was virtual tie with CIIC, so you unfortunately gained nothing with your tag team - other than me putting another band on ‘The List'

5.5: senecadawg2 - Unleash the Archers / Tonight We Ride
Four distinct vocal styles - clean were great; grunts... neither good nor bad; harsh vocals were ok - I can dig that - very reminiscent of Alissa's contributions in the last two Kamelot albums; screams - talented, for sure, but I find the use of high end wails like that to be good in moderation, and they were overused here for my liking (not that I disliked them though).  The music was good; nice guitar solo/unison.  Reminded me a lot of Reach out to the Light - especially the marching/power drum beat and drone of the rhythm guitar.  Also a virtual tie with CIIC and Armoured Saint.

5: wolfking - Angel Dust / Fly Away
Vocally it reminded me of Anders Endberg of Speaking to Stones.  Loved the slow roll on the opening, but the remainder of the song wasn't much more than slightly above average.  Nice guitar work, but I didn't hear what you heard.  Not a lot to say, I wasn't impressed, nor was I disappointed - which lands you pretty much in the middle of this group of tunes.

4: Zook - CHVRCHES / Clearest Blue
Electronica pop - fun tune, and enjoyable… not something I'd turn to on my own.  This feels more like a guilty pleasure to me.  I'd like to rank this higher, but I know that this just isn't a song I'll proactively go out and reach for - but like Zydar's Mando Daio submission in my first roulette, I'll enjoy the fuck out of this everytime I spin it.  Is it 'better' than other songs this round?  Perhaps... but by my definition of 'better', not really.  This will unfortunately suffer from being so far outside my normal comfort zone that I can't rate it too high.

3: Bolsters - Odd Logic / Perfect Day
This is a pretty complex prog-metal track, that works well in the beginning, and the end... but the instrumental wankery in between just didn't click.  It was tantamount to how I feel about the intro of Lost Not Forgotten - wankfests suck when they don't connect with the rest of the song, and it seems like the band is doing it either just because they can, or because they've got some written material they're trying to shove somewhere - the piano seque into the instrumental section was good, but then went sideways - most of which really turned had me scratching my head... the guitar riffs sounded like one big grunt.  Luckily the final 90 seconds kinda brought it back around to normalcy.

2: Big Hath - Kevin Gilbert / Certifiable #1 Smash
Different from anything else. Probably the most fun song of the round, and musically it was the tits.  Lyrically and vocally, it didn't quite live up to the billing in the song title.  I can dig the kinds of songs that are as much parody as anything, and the spoken vocal style isn't something I think works very often (George Thorogood is the only one I can think of where it works for me).  The almost 2 minute 'description of the video' section dragged on far too long.  Overtime, I may come to appreciate and get a bigger kick out of this than I could over the course of a Roulette round.  'twas a good song, and I'll enjoy it whenever I play my roulette playlist, but it didn't keep up with the rest of the group this round.

1: Mystery Machine - Lizzy Borden / Me Against The World
Nothing wrong with this tune either - some solid hair-metal.   This kind of tune would've definitely floated my boat 25 years ago - and likely in a very big way.  Nowadays, this is just a little too pedestrian for my liking.  It was enjoyable, but enjoyable this round didn't cut it. This was definitely your "Final Frontier".  Looking forward to The Undiscovered Country.  :D

0.5 Bolsters - Shineback / Rise Up Forgotten, Return Destroyed
This one has some really wanky guitar work - I'm really not sure what to make of the guitar effect, and have no words to describe it - literally I've been searching for the right word for a few days, but can't find it.  Squeeky?? … like the guitar strings are made of elastic rubber, and not conductive metal??  That's about as good a description I can come up with. Vocally very nice, but that squeeky-ness of the main melodies didn't click - really didn't click.  Good production, good drum work, and 'normal' guitar sound was nice.  Solo/instrumental wankfest was enjoyable, but the whole thing had me put off by that weird guitar effect.   :\

Jay is even money with his tag team option; Bolsters gains 2 points, and Seneca jumps up 5 points - even with 2 very good songs.

Standings:
bl5150 - 25
wolfking - 24
Evermind - 21
Lowdz - 21
TAC - 19
senecadawg2 - 18
Big Hath - 16
jjrock88 - 16
Bolsters - 13 (keeps a bonus point for honesty)
Mystery Machine - 13
Zook - 13

And, as evidenced by the change in rankings, one bad round can have a serious impact.  Put together a couple of stellar rounds, and you can be right up there.

Also, I know I said I was gonna add some spice into this round, but my idea ended up getting a little to convoluted, and I vowed to keep this roulette simple.  So just send me some more great music.

Listening for round 4 - the hump round - starts Friday morning.  I am yet again traveling for the next two days.
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would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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Re: The jingle Roulette Trilogy - Round 3 posted - I tease you not
« Reply #646 on: October 06, 2015, 05:06:24 PM »
That's a word salad - and take it from me, I know word salad
I fear for the day when something happens on the right that is SO nuts that even Stadler says "That's crazy".
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Re: The jingle Roulette Trilogy - Round 3 posted - I tease you not
« Reply #647 on: October 06, 2015, 05:07:33 PM »
prediction: Mystery Machine will get nothing but 11's and 1's all roulette long

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Re: The jingle Roulette Trilogy - Round 3 posted - I tease you not
« Reply #648 on: October 06, 2015, 05:09:00 PM »
damn.  Was quite confident with that song.  That bloody Brent takes the lead too haha.

That UFO song is amazing.
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Re: The jingle Roulette Trilogy - Round 3 posted - I tease you not
« Reply #649 on: October 06, 2015, 05:18:38 PM »
I think I'm doing way better than the last roulette so that's good I guess.

Sometimes it's ok to go outside your comfort zone. I never would have listened to something like Chvrches in 2004 when I was discovering Metal. Hell, I never thought I'd listen to Taylor Swift, but her latest album is top notch, aside from the horrible Bad Blood. I also never thought I'd enjoy harsh vocals either. Times change.

If you enjoyed Clearest Blue, check out the whole album.

Now... the fuck am I going to send you next round?

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Re: The jingle Roulette Trilogy - Round 3 posted - I tease you not
« Reply #650 on: October 06, 2015, 05:40:31 PM »
Glad you enjoyed Voodoo Circle! And while it seems like you enjoyed the other song well enough, I'm glad I used my tag team. Given my false start it was important that I got this one right. And now I'm middle of the pack- woohoo. Suddenly top three isn't looking that far out of reach  :biggrin:

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Re: The jingle Roulette Trilogy - Round 3 - headphones engaged
« Reply #651 on: October 06, 2015, 05:54:57 PM »
5.5: jjrock88 - Armoured Saint / Last Train Home
I wasn't overly impressed on first listen, but it rocked way better on listen #2 (and subsequent ones) with headphones.  Pretty run-of-the-mill melodic rock, but it's still a pretty good mill.  Everything about it was just right - good vocals, good composition, nice melodies - but nothing that wow’d me - so it’s a middle of the pack ranking.  Ranking wise, it was virtual tie with CIIC, so you unfortunately gained nothing with your tag team - other than me putting another band on ‘The List'

I had been considering Armored Saint but was struggling on which song would make the strongest statement. I definitely wouldn't have gone with Last Train Home. There are much better songs on Symbol Of Salvation. I even ran through a few of them while considering last week. I would've gone with Burning Question or Tainted Past, or even Hanging Judge.
Probably would've sent my favorite Saint song, Book Of Blood, off Raising Fear. Oh well..

That UFO song is amazing.

Yes. Yes it is. I felt like I wanted to get some UFO in but wasn't sure what to send. Then suddenly Profession Of popped in my head. Gave it a listen to confirm and off it went. Paul Chapman's finest moment.

Glad you liked it, Chad!
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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« Reply #652 on: October 06, 2015, 05:56:31 PM »
I really like all of those top 4 songs (even the UFO  :D ) , so nice to be at the top of the bunch with one of the first songs I thought of for this roulette.

Rd 4 sent - might do some cheating of my own  :hat .
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Re: The jingle Roulette Trilogy - Round 3 posted - I tease you not
« Reply #653 on: October 06, 2015, 06:00:51 PM »
I really like all of those top 4 songs (even the UFO  :D ) ,

ESPECIALLY the UFO!!
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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« Reply #654 on: October 06, 2015, 06:02:04 PM »
might do some cheating of my own  :hat .

Was just thinking this very same thing.
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Re: The jingle Roulette Trilogy - Round 3 posted - I tease you not
« Reply #655 on: October 06, 2015, 06:07:43 PM »
might do some cheating of my own  :hat .

Was just thinking this very same thing.

would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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Re: The jingle Roulette Trilogy - Round 3 posted - I tease you not
« Reply #656 on: October 06, 2015, 06:10:08 PM »
I think they are referring to the tag team option.

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Re: The jingle Roulette Trilogy - Round 3 posted - I tease you not
« Reply #657 on: October 06, 2015, 06:11:01 PM »
I think they are referring to the tag team option.
Nah, that's not cheating. Unless they are sending four songs each.
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

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Re: The jingle Roulette Trilogy - Round 3 - headphones engaged
« Reply #658 on: October 06, 2015, 06:22:55 PM »
Well, nothing wrong with cheating, in fact, I encourage it.  :biggrin:  Good play.
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« Reply #659 on: October 06, 2015, 06:48:01 PM »
Sent.

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« Reply #660 on: October 06, 2015, 08:21:25 PM »
Lizzy Borden was on my short list to send

Round 4 sent

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« Reply #661 on: October 06, 2015, 08:33:12 PM »
Shineback ranked last. And you rank both of my songs lower than CHVRCHES. dafuq is even going on :facepalm:

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« Reply #662 on: October 06, 2015, 08:51:31 PM »
Lizzy Borden was on my short list to send

I thought about sending them too.  Not that song, probably something from the amazing Deal With the Devil.
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« Reply #663 on: October 06, 2015, 09:16:18 PM »
Shineback ranked last. And you rank both of my songs lower than CHVRCHES. dafuq is even going on :facepalm:

Sorry mang.  The bottom four songs all had something about them that I actively didn't like, despite all the things that I did like about them.  Couldn't say that about the CHVRCHES song at all.  It was ok, and an enjoyable listen.  I'd probably rank Animotion ahead of that Shineback song.   ;)  You were warned.

Tastes!  Hell, you liked The Reflex better than The Angelmaker so yeah... Tastes!   :biggrin:

For those using their tag-team options... I truly appreciate the 'risks' being taken - some might payoff, some won't  - so far, most haven't.  CIIC was the only one that did well.  However, I have found things to like about the 'risky' songs - even Shineback.  The chorus is a bit of an earworm, and not in a bad way.
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Re: The jingle Roulette Trilogy - Round 3 posted - I tease you not
« Reply #664 on: October 06, 2015, 09:21:03 PM »
Tastes!  Hell, you liked The Reflex better than The Angelmaker so yeah... Tastes!   :biggrin:
You have the memory of an elephant too, so I know you will never let me forget that. :-*

As much as it pains me to post this...pretty sure I'm on 12 points, not 13. :lol