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I'm so glad you could attend, come inside, come inside.

This roulette is going to follow the KISS principle. As I look back at how I structured my first two, holy crap did I make them convoluted. This time, no rules.  Send me good music.  That's it.  I'll simply offer the following guidelines.

Worth repeating from my first two roulette’s:
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I'm not doing this to explore new genre's of music, so don't expect to get much love from death metal, electronica or any genre requiring "post" or "core" in its name.
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If you do chose to participate... then please do so.  I'm not going to hold anyone's hand during this, or remind/chase down people who don't submit in a timely manner - and by timely, I mean within a couple of days.  My intention is for these first two rounds to take a week or so, then the main rounds to be under a week - 1-2 days for you to decide, 4-5 days for me to listen and writeup. As one of my old bosses used to say, this is the FIFO method - Fit In, or Fuck Off.

I'll notify everyone when I plan to start listening to all submissions.  Submit whenever you want, but if you don't submit a song by the time I start listening, then you're self selecting your score. No sweat off my back.

First and foremost, MAKE IT FUN.  Roulette's aren't just about sharing good music you think the organizer will like, it's about having fun. I can get excellent music recommendations for last.fm, Amazon, YouTube, BandCamp fishing expeditions, Progstreaming, and Spotify. I host a roulette to have fun WHILE discovering new music.

Banned artists.  By-and-large, I'm not formally banning anything. I'll reject a lot, so review my last.fm listening stats - it's as good a guideline as I'll give. Even if I've listened to an artist lots of times, if there are songs/albums I don't know, I'll allow it. Great example, Zydar sent me Aerosmith in my first roulette. I have their box set, and a few albums, but I didn't know what he gave me.  I'll allow that kinda stuff.  There are lots of artists I like, but I don't know everything by them. Send what you will, but I have the right to reject if I know an artist too well.  Here’s a link that includes a copy/paste of my iTunes Library for the ultra-keeners jingle.boy listening tastes.  It also has the bands that I received in my 1st two roulettes.  Here’s my jingle.boy last.fm - but the new interface sucks, and I’ve yet to find how you can sort the library A-Z.  Below is the list of artists that I have over 100 listens to in my iTunes library - all 190 bands, along with the list of saved bands I have in Spotify.  Like I said, not formally banned, but you'll likely be hard pressed to sneak one of these bands by me.  Not impossible, but most of these would be off limits.

Participants.  Come one come all.  There will be 1 or 2 qualifying rounds as I did in my last roulette. I want to get down to about 10 participants, so depending on how many people sign up, qualifying may be one round, it may be 2.  You either move on, or you don't.

Format.  After qualification, I'll have 7 rounds. After that, top 3 (maybe 4) will play a final round.

Get out of jail.  I'm going to potentially offer 'get out of jail' cards for some that I know have highly compatible music tastes, and I'm hoping/expecting to make it out of qualification. If they happen to shit the bed on a qualifying submission, I MIGHT give you a pass.  If you think you may be one of those people, don't count on it and decide you might take a risk on your first submission. You may not be one of the people I have in mind.

Submitting.  Spotify, or email me the .mp3 (chadrbelcher... I use gmail).  If not available on either, just tell me the band/song ... I have ways.  I prefer to avoid YT, as sometimes the quality is shyte.

My tastes.  For those that don't know, figure it out yourself :lol.  I will do this however - if you send a band that I already know I'm not that much of a fan of (eg, Opeth, C&C), I'll warn you that you're taking a risk.  Sometimes there's a reason that a certain band doesn't have many last.fm plays - it's because I think they suck, or I don't "get" them.  Feel free to take that risk, but I'll forewarn you.

More rules to follow when we start the official rounds.

With all that said, I intend to start listening to the first qualification round on Labour Day - September 7th.  Results will depend on how many participants I end up with.

Bands with 100+ listens:
Abba
Absolute Priority
AC/DC
Aerosmith
Affector
After Forever
Allen / Lande
Alpha Rev
Amadeus Awad
Amaran's Plight
Amaranthe
Angra
Anthriel
Anubis
April Wine
Arjen Anthony Lucassen
At Vance
Avantasia
Axel Rudi Pell
Ayreon
Beautiful Sin
Beyond the Bridge
Bigelf
Blessed By A Broken Heart
Blind Guardian
Bon Jovi
Borealis
Boston
Brazen Abbot
Bruce Springsteen
Chain
Circus Maximus
Cloudscape
Consortium Project
Constantine
Cryptic Vision
Daedalus
Damian Wilson
Damn Yankees
Damnation Angels
Dec Burke
Def Leppard
Delain
Delta
Devin Townsend
DGM
Dimension Act
Dream Evil
Dream Theater
Echoes
Eclipse
Eden's Curse
Elegy
Enchant
Epysode
Erik Norlander
Eumeria
Europe
Evergrey
Everwood
Extreme
Firehouse
Firewind
First Signal
Flaming Row
Flying Colors
Frameshift
Freedom Call
Frost*
Genesis
Genius
Glass Mind
Hardline
Harem Scarem
Heart Of Cygnus
Heavens Fire
Henning Pauly
House Of Lords
Ice Age
Illusion Suite
Iq
Iq
Iron Maiden
It Bites
James Labrie
Jethro Tull
Jørn
Journey
Kamelot
Kingcrow
Last Tribe
Led Zeppelin
Lord
Lost In Thought
Magnitude 9
Magnus Karlsson's Free Fall
Masterplan
Mechanical Poet
Mind Key
Mind's Eye
MindMaze
Mob Rules
Mötley Crüe
Mr. Big
Mystery
Nemesea
Neonfly
Neverdream
Nightwish
Nocturnal Rites
Pagan's Mind
Pain Of Salvation
Pathosray
PelleK
Phantom's Opera
Pink Floyd
Planet Alliance
Poison
Poverty's No Crime
Powerworld
Presto Ballet
Pretty Maids
Primal Fear
Prymary
Pyramaze
Queen
Queensrÿche
Red Circuit
Redemption
ReVamp
Roswell Six
Royal Hunt
Rush
Sacrum
Sass Jordan
Savatage
Saxon
Secret Sphere
Section A
Serenity
Seven Steps To The Green Door
Seventh Wonder
Shadow Circus
Shadow Gallery
Silent Force
Skid Row
Slaughter
Soul Secret
Spock's Beard
Star One
Starbreaker
Stream of Passion
Sturm Und Drang
Styx
Subsignal
Sun Caged
Symphony X
Tears of Anger
Tellus Requiem
Ten
Tesla
The Dear Hunter
The Magnificent
The Tangent
Thought Chamber
Threshold
Thunderstone
Toby Hitchcock
Toxic Smile
Trans-Siberian Orchestra
Transatlantic
Transcend
Triosphere
Triumph
U2
Van Halen
Vanden Plas
Vandroya
Vanishing Point
Vengeance
Vision Divine
WarMachine
White Lion
Whitesnake
Wicked Sensation
Winger
Within Temptation
Xandria
Y&T
Yargos

Spotify saved bands:
Aeon Zen
Aisles
Alithia
Ancient Bards
Arcane Atlas
Art of Illusion
Artlantica
Awaken
Brave
Cain's Offering
The Codex
Crucified Barbara
Dreylands
Dynazty
Edgend
Endbound
Fairyland
Future's End
GPS
Impelliteri
Indigo Dying
Inner Odyssey
Innershine
Knight Area
Level 10
Lonely Robot
Maestrick
Majestic
Mindcage
Morning Starlett
Nightingale
One|Cinema
Opposing Motion
RavenBlack Project
Revolution Saints
Secret
Shaft of Steel
Silentlie
SinHeresY
Soulspell
A Sound of Thunder
Speric Universe Experience
Sweet&Lynch
Tony Mills
Unisonic
Until Rain
Voices from the Fuselage
The Winery Dogs

Bands submitted in Roulette:
The Screaming Jets
Theocracy
Rox Diamond
A.C.T.
Deadly Circus Fire
Rustfield
Lords Of The Trident
Accept
Ride the Sky
Anubis Gate
Rival Sons
Shear
Harvest
Sphere of Souls
Slash/Myles Kennedy
Helker
The Poodles
Rainbow
Shadowquest
Judas Priest
Paul Laine
Whyzdom
Arion
Age of Nemesis
Myrath
Triaxis
Arcane
Galahad
Racer-X
Thunder
Empyrios
Sylvan
Fastaway
W.A.S.P.
HolyHell
Alter Bridge
Millenium
Serpentine
Hibria
Ascendia
Almah
The Paralydium Project
Witherscape
Chaos Frame
Evil Masquerade
Holy Shire
Crash the System
Silent Call
Voodoo Circle
Abydos
UFO
Temperance
Circle II Circle
Angel Dust
Odd Logic
Unleash the Archers
Armoured Saint
H.E.A.T.
In This Moment
Heavy Bones
Solution .45
Sebastien
Diabulus in Musica
Mindwarp Chamber
Caligula's Horse
« Last Edit: November 08, 2015, 08:37:32 PM by jingle.boy »
Can you imagine some alien race comes to a large nebula they've never seen before, and it just turns out it's the Federation's dumping ground for space-smile?
And TAC can suck it  :biggrin:, this is heavy in all the right places.  :tup

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Re: The jingle Roulette Trilogy - Welcome back my friends
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2015, 05:43:52 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2015, 05:48:24 AM »
I'd like to give this a shot and see if I can qualify.
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Re: The jingle Roulette Trilogy - Welcome back my friends
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2015, 06:05:37 AM »
Here’s my jingle.boy last.fm - but the new interface sucks, and I’ve yet to find how you can sort the library A-Z.
That's because you can't for the time being. The artist pages also don't have the "friends who listen to" section anymore (which was one of my favourite features), so it's pretty much impossible to find out if you've got something in your library. That is unless I wanted to CTRL+F through all 30 fucking pages of it. :mehlin

What is your preference between Spotify and MP3s? I can do either.

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« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2015, 06:13:02 AM »
Why the hell not, I think I was in your first two roulettes as well, so let's do this.
Hey dude slow the fuck down so we can finish together at the same time.  :biggrin:
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« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2015, 06:42:48 AM »
I'll probably not get past a few rounds, but you were in my roulette so I'm in.

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« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2015, 07:04:56 AM »


it has finally happened.  I started prep for this roulette back in the 60's so I have all sorts of cool bands to share -  The Kinks , The Who, Louis Armstrong......




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« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2015, 07:42:17 AM »
Any carry through of scores from the qualifying rounds (if you make it) or do we need to hold back on the seriously good shit?  Not that I forsee trouble finding 9 seriously good songs  :)     
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« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2015, 08:02:02 AM »
I will definitely participate.

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« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2015, 08:53:08 AM »
I think I'm required to be in this thing.
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« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2015, 08:58:16 AM »
so it's pretty much impossible to find out if you've got something in your library. That is unless I wanted to CTRL+F through all 30 fucking pages of it. :mehlin

Hence the link to the .xls of my iTunes library.  CTRL/CMD F is your friend there

What is your preference between Spotify and MP3s? I can do either.

For those that regularly use Spotify, go that route first.  Only trouble might be differences in licensing in Canada vs rest of world.

Any carry through of scores from the qualifying rounds (if you make it) or do we need to hold back on the seriously good shit? 

Nope... Qualification is just to get to the real show.  You're either in, or your out... there's no scoring in qualification.

I think I'm required to be in this thing.

Damn right you are.
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And TAC can suck it  :biggrin:, this is heavy in all the right places.  :tup

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« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2015, 09:35:11 AM »
so it's pretty much impossible to find out if you've got something in your library. That is unless I wanted to CTRL+F through all 30 fucking pages of it. :mehlin
Hence the link to the .xls of my iTunes library.  CTRL/CMD F is your friend there
And it is appreciated. I just wanted to vent a bit about how terrible the new Last.fm is. :(

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« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2015, 09:49:20 AM »
so it's pretty much impossible to find out if you've got something in your library. That is unless I wanted to CTRL+F through all 30 fucking pages of it. :mehlin
Hence the link to the .xls of my iTunes library.  CTRL/CMD F is your friend there
And it is appreciated. I just wanted to vent a bit about how terrible the new Last.fm is. :(

Vent away.  It's shyte.
Can you imagine some alien race comes to a large nebula they've never seen before, and it just turns out it's the Federation's dumping ground for space-smile?
And TAC can suck it  :biggrin:, this is heavy in all the right places.  :tup

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« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2015, 09:56:22 AM »
I'm in.
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« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2015, 10:15:59 AM »
so it's pretty much impossible to find out if you've got something in your library. That is unless I wanted to CTRL+F through all 30 fucking pages of it. :mehlin
Hence the link to the .xls of my iTunes library.  CTRL/CMD F is your friend there
And it is appreciated. I just wanted to vent a bit about how terrible the new Last.fm is. :(

Vent away.  It's shyte.
I think it looks pretty cool ;D

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« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2015, 12:30:02 PM »
So we sending now?
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« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2015, 01:03:59 PM »
So we sending now?

Any time between now and the 7th.  Whoever has sent by then is in.  Not starting my listening until then.  Was just really getting the OP up there to solicit participants, but send whenever you want.
Can you imagine some alien race comes to a large nebula they've never seen before, and it just turns out it's the Federation's dumping ground for space-smile?
And TAC can suck it  :biggrin:, this is heavy in all the right places.  :tup

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« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2015, 01:12:17 PM »
Cool, now for the arduous task of finding the 10 bands out of a thousand that we don't have in common.
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« Reply #18 on: August 29, 2015, 01:16:47 PM »
First thing is taking your tongue out of his mouth.
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« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2015, 02:18:15 PM »
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« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2015, 02:50:32 PM »
I'm in of course. Will read the OP and send something in a few days.

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« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2015, 04:56:22 PM »
First thing is taking your tongue out of his mouth.

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would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums................or WTF.  ;D

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« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2015, 05:10:27 PM »
First and foremost, MAKE IT FUN

OK. Sure, but...




  I'm not going to hold anyone's hand during this, or remind/chase down people who don't submit in a timely manner ... - Fit In, or Fuck Off.

You either move on, or you don't.

Submit whenever you want, but if you don't submit a song by the time I start listening, then you're self selecting your score. No sweat off my back.

I'll reject a lot,

I MIGHT give you a pass. 




Yeah, gee...THAT does sound like fun!   :lol

Where do I sign up??
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would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums................or WTF.  ;D

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« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2015, 05:11:35 PM »
  Not that I forsee trouble finding 9 seriously good songs  :)   

You sure about that?  ;D
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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« Reply #24 on: August 29, 2015, 05:16:07 PM »
I think it looks pretty cool ;D
I don't like the new aesthetics, it looks like it was designed for use on phones and tablets, and on a 17" laptop screen I find it annoying. I can't imagine how horrible it is on a 20"+ desktop monitor. But I will probably get used to it eventually. What annoys me the most is that they went live with something that clearly should have stayed in beta for several more months. They replaced a perfectly fine, working website with one where hardly anything works as intended and that has a significant number of basic features missing. I don't understand why they couldn't continue to let the userbase use the old, working website while they were fixing up the new one, which is what they were doing at first.

Cool, now for the arduous task of finding the 10 bands out of a thousand that we don't have in common.
So far I've only got 11 that I have any confidence in. :lol

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« Reply #25 on: August 29, 2015, 05:45:38 PM »
Oh come on, some features aren't available anymore, but you can still scrobble, and see stats, and stuff. And it looks pretty modern imo.


But I've never really used the site, beyond checking my scrobbling stats from time to time to be honest  :lol

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« Reply #26 on: August 29, 2015, 05:51:12 PM »
the new last.fm is awful and i hate it
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« Reply #27 on: August 29, 2015, 08:12:29 PM »
I'll join!

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« Reply #28 on: August 30, 2015, 04:21:39 AM »
Oh come on, some features aren't available anymore, but you can still scrobble, and see stats, and stuff. And it looks pretty modern imo.


But I've never really used the site, beyond checking my scrobbling stats from time to time to be honest  :lol
Some pages like the one you picture above aren't that bad, but others are just a gigantic waste of space with information littered around the outside. Take this shot of jingle's library...



See, it's just nothing but empty space right in the middle of the page, with the artist name and photo on one side and the playcount on the other. Also the black bar at the top looks alright on some pages (such as profile pages) but is just an empty black box on most (probably not intentional, but then why release something this buggy in the first place?). I'm not saying it's the worst website design I've ever seen or anything, but it's not one of the better ones I've seen, that is for sure.

It's especially annoying when there was nothing actually wrong with the previous design. The site was fine the way it was.

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« Reply #29 on: August 30, 2015, 05:20:05 AM »
It always boggles the mind when websites/software vendors release an "upgrade" that is clearly inferior to the old version in almost every way.  iTunes 11 was like that and I went through all sorts of trouble (incl losing my library ratings at the time) to roll back to iTunes 10.
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Re: The jingle Roulette Trilogy - Welcome back my friends
« Reply #30 on: August 30, 2015, 01:21:36 PM »
It always boggles the mind when websites/software vendors release an "upgrade" that is clearly inferior to the old version in almost every way.  iTunes 11 was like that and I went through all sorts of trouble (incl losing my library ratings at the time) to roll back to iTunes 10.

Yeah, so much this. I disliked the new (well, not-so-new I think) 2007 Microsoft Word design; I hated the new AutoCAD design (I don't remember the year they've invented it) and I always switch to the classic layout instantly — in fact, I don't know anyone from our department (and that's about 60 people selection) who works with the default layout, and there are a lot more examples of that. I don't get why would you change something that's already working flawlessly and is approved by a thousands — no, scratch that — millions of users for something indeed mostly inferior.

I have to give Autodesk credit for leaving the option to switch to the old classic layout though.

Speaking of the roulette, I've just got back home and haven't read the OP yet. I need to fix that soon.

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Re: The jingle Roulette Trilogy - Welcome back my friends
« Reply #31 on: August 30, 2015, 05:04:17 PM »
Alright, I'm in.  Dunno what I have left for you Chad, might throw some shit out there that won't get me past the qualifying rounds  :lol

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Re: The jingle Roulette Trilogy - Welcome back my friends
« Reply #32 on: August 30, 2015, 07:05:10 PM »
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Re: The jingle Roulette Trilogy - Welcome back my friends
« Reply #33 on: August 30, 2015, 09:41:06 PM »
Oh you fuckin whiners!!!  I know for certain there are 10 songs out there that you have to use.  Kade... we know what your CD collection looks like - we all fapped to it.  Just take not of which sections of the Hard Rock thread I don't comment on.  RJ... shut your pie hole.  You've got a Bandcamp and LO.com treasure chest full of secrets.  And no complaining... it's your own damn fault for sharing stuff with me.   :P  Did you notice in my banned list that Iq is so good, they had to be listed twice.   :lol

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y u no play??   :sadpanda:

@ last.fm... if you're going to release a new interface, DON'T REMOVE FUNCTIONALITY!!!  I can live with the new interface, but test it so that everything works.  My feed still tells me I've listened to no albums in the last 7 days.  So much other functionality that they are "working on putting back".  WHY THE FUCK DID YOU TAKE IT AWAY!?!?!?  Love this .... "We’re currently migrating data (including scrobbles) to our new site and to minimise data disruption, we’ve temporarily suspended some functionality. Rest assured, we’re re-activating features one-by-one as soon as each data migration completes".  What the hell... are high school interns doing the migration?  This has been going on for weeks/months.

First thing is taking your tongue out of his mouth.

Can you imagine some alien race comes to a large nebula they've never seen before, and it just turns out it's the Federation's dumping ground for space-smile?
And TAC can suck it  :biggrin:, this is heavy in all the right places.  :tup

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Re: The jingle Roulette Trilogy - Welcome back my friends
« Reply #34 on: August 30, 2015, 09:44:16 PM »
It's easy enough to check bands in your library on Last.fm using URLs (don't know why I didn't think of it sooner myself :facepalm:) if anyone was interested.