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« Reply #735 on: November 05, 2015, 03:52:38 PM »
That was hella close, wow. Congrats seneca!
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« Reply #736 on: November 05, 2015, 03:55:35 PM »
Come oooooooon, that Beardfish track is just fun and silly, it's not supposed to be serious at all. So basically, if I had a slightly better track in that EP instead of the Beardfish song I would have won this? Booooooo :(
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« Reply #737 on: November 05, 2015, 03:57:51 PM »
You had the unfortunate luck of having your longest song drag down your EP score  :(
I know it's not supposed to be serious or anything, that was pretty clear, but I just didn't enjoy it that much, sorry!

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« Reply #738 on: November 05, 2015, 04:31:43 PM »
Wow, I honestly was not expecting to win this at all.

During the main competition, most of my favorite submissions underperformed while the rest kept me in it. Then, going into the EP and sticking with relatively one-note (as you said) music and tone felt like potential problem. Add to that the lack of variety, which I was very well aware of, and I'm quite surprised with the result.  :lol

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I really don’t have much else to say about this

Me neither!  :blush

The lower vocals here are very much what makes this song stand out, I quite like this singer’s voice.

Indeed

Glen Hansard had me a bit nervous, because of your comments in the early stages of the roulette about singer-songwriters. Ditto for Damien Rice. Glad my risks payed off in both songs.

Glen Hansard – Bird of Sorrow

First Impressions: I can tell right off the bat this is going to be a more emotional and evocative track, light piano melodies and somewhat strained vocals pretty much indicate that. Which is something I generally like a lot. The strings coming in right as the vocals get more intense creates a nice swell. The rest of the band comes in around the halfway point and the song just gets, a hell of a lot more intense, christ, those vocals are giving me serious chills man. The Sufjan song better be damn good because this is gonna be hard to top, this feels like one heck of an album closer, haha.

Final Thoughts: Again, he doesn’t sound like the most technically proficient of singers. On the other hand, god damn, this is just pure singing from the heart, and that’s going to win over a technically perfect but soulless vocal performance any day. Really, the biggest gripe I have with this song is that some of the vocal lines just have an awkward/clunky flow to them, too many words being said too fast or something.

The piano serves as a nice backdrop for the quieter moments, playing relatively standard stuff, sure, but that just lets you direct more attention towards the vocal performance that really is the main attraction here. And the strings come in for the swell of the chorus, giving it more weight.

And then, when the full band starts coming in at the second chorus, and the song just gets a hell of a lot more intense… yeah, this part of the song has unfailingly given me chills. The vocals, man. Just raw emotion. I wouldn’t ask for any other singer for this song, Hansard just nails it.

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If I can nitpick for a second, though, it almost feels like the instrumentation doesn’t quite get big enough to match the vocals.

Agreed. But at the same time, I'm not sure anything could match the vocals.


Fair point about the ordering of the songs, and sticking 3 piano ballads in a row. I did that mainly because of the individual transitions  between songs, despite the samey-ness of it.

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Final Thoughts: Alright, I get why the lyrics have a lot of the cheesy name-calling going, this is just a really intimate song. I almost feel bad listening to it, like I’m peering into someone’s private life that I have no place actually seeing. I dunno, it’s just, too personal for me, almost.

Yeah, man... I went and saw Sufjan last night and I've got to say- it's especially weird seeing him perform these songs in a live setting. Still, love this album to death (top 3 album of the year for me) and I'd highly recommend checking it out when you recover from all of this.


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« Reply #739 on: November 05, 2015, 04:42:01 PM »
Honestly I felt my write-ups for this round were on the shorter side of things, just that there were a lot more of them than usual, haha...
And your EP grew on me the most of the three for sure, it was my least favorite the first time around but repeated listens can often fix that problem, clearly.

And if it makes you feel better I'll probably get that Agaloch album at some point, though it's not at the top of the list of things to get, and I'll also likely have like 5 Enslaved albums in a year or two as well since they have soooo many  :lol

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« Reply #740 on: November 05, 2015, 04:43:08 PM »
I swear I had never noticed the "beep" in that song before your writeup :lol I think it's a string repeating the same note, but every timeiI'd listened to the album and song, never really noticed it after the other instruments kick in. I guess I don't pay that much attention to details in my music :P

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« Reply #741 on: November 05, 2015, 04:47:37 PM »
It's just the kind of thing that really gets to me, sorry  :(

If it makes you feel any better, the 8.5 I'd have given without the beep would've still only tied you with seneca and he had the tiebreaker, so  :P


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« Reply #742 on: November 05, 2015, 04:48:45 PM »
Really I think everyone's a winner here because everyone sent at least one or two artists who I'm definitely gonna check out further, but maybe that just makes me the winner in the end, hm...  :hat

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« Reply #743 on: November 05, 2015, 06:03:38 PM »
Sarah Fimm is awesome, props to seneca.
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« Reply #744 on: November 05, 2015, 06:06:35 PM »
Those are some serious write-ups for the EPs! :tup
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« Reply #745 on: November 06, 2015, 03:39:57 PM »
Okay, I put this together as best as I could but there's probably not 100% accuracy here. Nevertheless, full ranking of all 117 songs  :lol

1.   Brand New – Limousine
2.   Bent Knee – Being Human
3.   Dire Straits – Brothers in Arms
4.   Foals – Spanish Sahara
5.   Glen Hansard – Bird of Sorrow
6.   CHON – Can’t Wait
7.   Obsidian Kingdom – Not Yet Five / Oncoming Dark / Through the Glass / Cinnamon Balls
8.   Have A Nice Life – There Is No Food
9.   Marketa Irglova – This Right Here
10.   Damien Rice – 9 Crimes
11.   Schizoid Lloyd – Suicide Penguin
12.   Enslaved – Roots of the Mountain
13.   Circus Maximus - Architect of Fortune
14.   David Maxim Micic – Where is Now?
15.   SikTh – Tupelo
16.   Alcest – Summer’s Glory
17.   Gordian Knot – Muttersprache
18.   Ulver – Eos
19.   Ben Folds Five – One Angry Dwarf And 200 Solemn Faces
20.   The Contortionist – Thrive
21.   Lesoir – Battle
22.   Headspace – Daddy F***ing Loves You
23.   Jolly – Where Everything’s Perfect
24.   The Ocean - Bathyalpelagic I: Impasses (Instrumental Version)
25.   The Fall Of Troy – Chapter IV: Enter The Black Demon
26.   Sufjan Stevens – Fourth of July
27.   Foo Fighters – Rope
28.   Destiny Potato – Addict
29.   Thy Light – …And I Finally Reach My End
30.   Royal Blood – Loose Change
31.   Native Construct – Chromatic Aberration
32.   Destrage – My Green Neighbor
33.   Agent Fresco – See Hell
34.   ThumperMonkey – Wheezyboy
35.   Unexpect – Unsolved Ideas of a Distorted Guest
36.   The Sword – Acheron/Unleasing the Orb
37.   Múm – Green Grass of Tunnel
38.   Sufjan Stevens – John Wayne Gacy, Jr.
39.   Bruce Springsteen – New York City Serenade
40.   Gazpacho – I’ve Been Walking
41.   Shining – Fisheye
42.   Nine Inch Nails – Just Like You Imagined
43.   Arcturus – The Arcturian Sign
44.   Premiata Forneria Marconi – Impressioni Di Settembre
45.   Coldplay – Midnight (Live)
46.   Soundgarden – 4th of July
47.   Frost* – Experiments in Mass Appeal
48.   Yes – Siberian Khatru
49.   maudlin of the Well – Gleam in Ranks
50.   Björk – Jóga
51.   Susanne Sundfør - The Silicone Veil
52.   Ben Levin Group – Freak Machine 1 (Live)
53.   Chelsea Wolfe – Survive
54.   Agalloch – Limbs
55.   Converge – Phoenix in Flight
56.   Braveyoung – And No Two Walked Together
57.   Alter Bridge – Blackbird
58.   The Dear Hunter – The Thief
59.   Black Tusk – Resistor
60.   Nevermore – Dreaming Neon Black
61.   Nightwish – Dark Chest of Wonders
62.   Shinedown – 45 (Acoustic)
63.   Symphony X – King of Terrors
64.   The Cure – Closedown
65.   Akira Yamaoka – Theme of Laura
66.   Katatonia – Unfurl
67.   Cave In – Innuendo and Out the Other
68.   Mr. Bungle – Ars Moriendi
69.   Boards of Canada – Dayvan Cowboy
70.   A.C.T. – A Failed Escape Attempt
71.   Pure Reason Revolution - Goshen's Remains
72.   The Cure – Pictures of You
73.   The Antlers – Parade
74.   Taylor Swift – Wildest Dreams
75.   Sarah Fimm – Velocity
76.   Smashing Pumpkins – The Beginning Is the End Is the Beginning
77.   Avenged Sevenfold – Save Me
78.   Ruined Machines – Karma in Remission
79.   Luay Rifai – Faithful Spirits
80.   The National – Slow Show
81.   Voices From the Fuselage – Meteorites
82.   If Trees Could Talk – The First Fire
83.   Rush – The Garden
84.   Slipknot – The Devil in I
85.   Alter Bridge – The End Is Here
86.   Dredg – Pariah
87.   Clint Mansell – Death is the Road to Awe
88.   Seventh Wonder - Welcome To Mercy Falls
89.   Mazzy Star – Fade Into You
90.   Death Cab For Cutie – We Looked Like Giants
91.   Dead Can Dance – Amnesia
92.   Beardfish – South Of The Border
93.   Helios – Bless This Morning Year
94.   Emancipator – First Snow
95.   Gojira – Esoteric Surgery
96.   Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds – Up Jumped The Devil
97.   Iron Maiden – Sign of the Cross
98.   Gary Clark Jr. – When My Train Pulls In (Live)
99.   Kvelertak – Mjod
100.   Seether ft. Amy Lee – Broken
101.   Ludovico Einaudi – Uno
102.   Rage Against The Machine – Settle For Nothing
103.   Massive Attack – Dissolved Girl
104.   Homestuck – Moonsetter
105.   Ed Harrison – Annul
106.   Now, Now – Thread
107.   Sufjan Stevens - The Black Hawk War…
108.   Vangough – Corporatocracy
109.   Tremonti – You Waste Your Time
110.   Lunatic Soul – Cold
111.   BADBADNOTGOOD – Can’t Leave The Night
112.   Slash ft. Myles Kennedy & The Conspirators – World on Fire
113.   The Tallest Man On Earth – I Won’t Be Found
114.   OSI – Microburst Alert
115.   Tom Waits – Hang Down Your Head
116.   Animals As Leaders – Physical Education
117.   Slint – Don, Aman


I'm most sure about the top few and the bottom few but everything in-between could be wrong 'cause there's no good way to rank 100+ things easily, blah  :lol

Someday I'll write something that takes a list and does 1v1 comparisons of songs until there's a definite best-to-worst sort list generated from it, ahah. Maybe something like that already exists out there, I dunno.

Terrifying thought: #47 is the last song I'd rate 8.5 or higher by my current feelings on the songs, some of them it's been a while since I listened to them though. But that I have 47 songs here I'd rate 8.5 or higher is ~insane~.

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« Reply #746 on: November 06, 2015, 03:45:33 PM »
As far as other things I want to say. Uh. I think everyone put at least two albums on my "to get" list, and I've already gotten three albums from roulette submissions, with plans to get somewhere in the range of 7-10 more before the end of the year, which is awesome  :tup

Was definitely fun running this, though a bit exhausting at a few points.

If I had to pick a favorite and least favorite round, uhh, hmm, Round 5 runs away with least favorite, favorite would probably be Round 3 judging by my current feelings on things  :lol But Round 1, Round 6, Round 8, and Round 9 were all great too and the EP round was pretty satisfying as well.

Other things, hmm. Rating my judging accuracy...
Round 1: A bit harsh on the lower end, I think, but mostly good.
Round 2: Most things scored a bit higher than I'd put them now, but pretty good.
Round 3: Everything was too low the first time, almost literally everything. Even some of my relistens ended up feeling too low by the end.
Round 4: I rebounded to grading a bit harshly on the low end, but the upper end I did well.
Round 5: I was too nice to most everything because the round as a whole was not very strong.
Round 6: A bit too nice to the low end, a bit too harsh on the upper end, the spread should've been wider here.
Round 7: A bit harsh on the whole, I think. I was probably a little unhappy the theme didn't work out too well.
Round 8: Maybe a sliiight bit too nice to Obsidian Kingdom but barely. Everything else good.
Round 9: Probably a little nice on the whole, but barely if so, this round was just great.
Round 10: Nah, I nailed it here.
EP Round: Again, pretty much nailed it. Maybe a few half-point discrepancies that wouldn't have affected the final outcome.

I feel my judging as a whole got better the further this went on, a little unsure of what to rate at first but when I had other songs to compare to I could pretty easily figure out what deserved what, for the most part. Still wish I'd done quarter-points though, but oh well, maybe next roulette  :lol
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« Reply #747 on: November 06, 2015, 09:00:04 PM »
You've got some free time on your hands, bro  :lol

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« Reply #748 on: November 06, 2015, 09:01:06 PM »
yeah i'd love to have a job rn but the job market sucks apparently

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« Reply #749 on: November 07, 2015, 05:15:10 AM »
I bet the 117th place was the only easy choice in making the ranking :lol
However it's great to have five songs over the 47th place! I noticed that Wheezyboy who initially had a 7.5 vote is a lot higher than Ars Moriendi who was the second best song on his round. Round 5 was easily your least favourite, even Gleam In Ranks isn't ranked 8.5 now

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« Reply #750 on: November 07, 2015, 05:41:08 AM »
Can't Wait was probably my least favorite or second least to favorite out of my 10 submissions :lol glad you liked it though.
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« Reply #751 on: November 07, 2015, 08:53:01 AM »
further proof that my music tastes are just outright backwards  :hat
and yeah Mr. Bungle didn't really stick with me but I've gone back to listen to Thumpermonkey and Agent Fresco a few times and they're pretty solid growers, so  :lol

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« Reply #752 on: November 07, 2015, 10:10:48 AM »
Well, I didn't make the finals, but I did get two of the top ten, so I'm happy with that.  :)
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« Reply #753 on: November 07, 2015, 10:23:03 AM »
you got the best 9.5 too  :tup

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« Reply #754 on: November 07, 2015, 10:55:30 AM »
More good news! Glad you liked at least some of what I sent. :tup
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« Reply #755 on: November 07, 2015, 11:14:32 AM »
Well, Parama, your tastes are awful as far as I'm concerned, but you loved Brothers in Arms, so there may be some hope for you yet. ;)

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« Reply #756 on: November 07, 2015, 11:28:32 AM »
116.   Animals As Leaders – Physical Education

I wasn't really following this but wow. PE is a totally killer Animals As Leaders song.  :tdwn

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« Reply #757 on: November 07, 2015, 11:59:23 AM »
Well, Parama, your tastes are awful as far as I'm concerned, but you loved Limousine and EOS, so there may be some hope for you yet. ;)
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« Reply #758 on: November 07, 2015, 12:07:19 PM »
Well, Parama, your tastes are awful as far as I'm concerned, but you loved Limousine and EOS, so there may be some hope for you yet. ;)
Fixed for me  :P

You reached the Final Round in his roulette. You can't say his tastes are awful. :lol

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« Reply #759 on: November 07, 2015, 12:15:46 PM »
 :heart you too Evermind

And jake I just... don't like AAL as a whole, wasn't crazy about their debut and Physical Education is the only AAL I've heard since then, they bore me for the most part.

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« Reply #760 on: November 07, 2015, 12:16:57 PM »
You reached the Final Round in his roulette. You can't say his tastes are awful. :lol

Well you won my roulette, yet your tastes are... :neverusethis:

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« Reply #761 on: November 07, 2015, 12:34:13 PM »
Touche.

I blame it all on your bonus points system though.

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« Reply #762 on: November 07, 2015, 02:04:10 PM »
My purpose with them was to encourage risk-taking, but I feel I should have used them in a different way, like, needing a minimum of 8/8.5 for a song from a genre I dislike instead of a 7.5, and maybe just 3 points or 2 to the song the best fits the theme instead of 4. But I won't have that system on v2 - maybe on v3, who knows.

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« Reply #763 on: November 07, 2015, 03:09:18 PM »
my bonus points system was maybe a little arbitrary but i think it worked out well for the most part, next roulette i do i'm just gonna have it be "anything released before 1990 gets a bonus halfpoint" or something really objective at the very least  :lol

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« Reply #764 on: November 07, 2015, 05:51:49 PM »
5 in the top 15! Woohoo!
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« Reply #765 on: November 07, 2015, 07:32:25 PM »
2 in the top 20? How the hell did I reach the finals? :lol

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« Reply #766 on: November 07, 2015, 07:41:32 PM »
3 in the top 20, actually, and you reached the finals because your lowest score in any round was like a 7
also because mike would've reached the finals if not for the AAL song bombing hardcore

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« Reply #767 on: November 08, 2015, 04:11:04 PM »
I'm not a good loser. I genuinely thought I was going to win though, with that huge point difference at the end of round 10.. shame you didn't count those towards the final result.

Anyway, I sent you 7 songs in the top 25, so that's good I suppose.

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« Reply #768 on: November 08, 2015, 04:24:44 PM »
they counted for the tiebreaker that almost came into play considering how close the EP scores were? sorry  :sadpanda: