Author Topic: DT on Wacken 2015 - live broadcasting (Read 17461 times)

Skeever · « **Reply #35 on:** July 31, 2015, 03:39:25 PM »

Really rough performance vocally

gm5k · « **Reply #36 on:** July 31, 2015, 03:40:56 PM »

Watching this in HD on youtube right now. Already liking it better than the most recent DVD

Really great live energy.

ResultsMayVary · « **Reply #37 on:** July 31, 2015, 03:45:02 PM »

Quote from: gm5k on July 31, 2015, 03:40:56 PM

Watching this in HD on youtube right now. Already liking it better than the most recent DVD Really great live energy.

I'm not sure I agree with you here. I think BTFW has a much better vocal performance and the energy seems much better, imho.

gm5k · « **Reply #38 on:** July 31, 2015, 03:49:00 PM »

Quote from: ResultsMayVary on July 31, 2015, 03:45:02 PM

Quote from: gm5k on July 31, 2015, 03:40:56 PM
Watching this in HD on youtube right now. Already liking it better than the most recent DVD Really great live energy.
I'm not sure I agree with you here. I think BTFW has a much better vocal performance and the energy seems much better, imho.

Yea agree about the vocals, but I'm only on Metropolis right now. Damn that is such a tough song to sing

Thought James did fine on Afterlife. JP's guitar sounds much better here IMO, a big reason I didn't love the last release after the initial viewing. I also like where the guitar is sitting in the mix. I've always enjoyed DT mixes better when JP isn't so overpoweringly prominent.

BMS sounds awesome!

gmillerdrake · « **Reply #39 on:** July 31, 2015, 04:02:52 PM »

Not Labries best but he want horrid. The band sounded fantastic! They all nailed it!

gm5k · « **Reply #40 on:** July 31, 2015, 04:04:17 PM »

Quote from: gmillerdrake on July 31, 2015, 04:02:52 PM

The band sounded fantastic! They all nailed it!

Wasn't it an incredible performance? Man I'm loving this

gmillerdrake · « **Reply #41 on:** July 31, 2015, 04:14:27 PM »

Quote from: gm5k on July 31, 2015, 04:04:17 PM

Quote from: gmillerdrake on July 31, 2015, 04:02:52 PM
The band sounded fantastic! They all nailed it!

Wasn't it an incredible performance? Man I'm loving this

I love Manginis take on the instrumental section of Metropolis! Fits well and sounds great. Just enough of his own flare to make it his 'own' but enough of the original sound to keep it the sound we all know.

gm5k · « **Reply #42 on:** July 31, 2015, 04:17:45 PM »

Oh yea that part sounded amazing. Want Mangini to put that part up on his youtube, or has he already?

Man JP killed the TSCO solo

And those people in the audience crying during the song...That was great.

The Presence of Frenemies · « **Reply #43 on:** July 31, 2015, 04:20:39 PM »

Definitely the most interesting CM performance I've come across. Odd how James suddenly was in gear vocally on that one. Signature version of the song is still probably Universal City '07, but it's close.

gmillerdrake · « **Reply #44 on:** July 31, 2015, 04:23:24 PM »

Quote from: The Presence of Frenemies on July 31, 2015, 04:20:39 PM

Definitely the most interesting CM performance I've come across. Odd how James suddenly was in gear vocally on that one. Signature version of the song is still probably Universal City '07, but it's close.

Agree with this!

Tomislav95 · « **Reply #45 on:** July 31, 2015, 04:45:38 PM »

I really like how audible John Myung is on whole video. DAT BASS

rumborak · « **Reply #46 on:** July 31, 2015, 05:14:08 PM »

Wow, Afterlife is not a good choice for an opener. James is struggling.

EDIT: Ok, I have to say it right here. I know it's what James does, but on a stage the size of Wacken's, when the singer walks off the stage and the other guys just stand there looking down on their instruments, it feels like watching a rehearsal.

gm5k · « **Reply #47 on:** July 31, 2015, 05:25:15 PM »

Quote from: rumborak on July 31, 2015, 05:14:08 PM

Wow, Afterlife is not a good choice for an opener. James is struggling.

Things were much better in general for JLB after Metropolis.

rumborak · « **Reply #48 on:** July 31, 2015, 05:29:15 PM »

I don't know. Burning My Soul is also beyond his range. It's all super-strained. I've also never heard him go into that many "screeches" before.

ResultsMayVary · « **Reply #49 on:** July 31, 2015, 05:33:33 PM »

Quote from: gmillerdrake on July 31, 2015, 04:02:52 PM

Not Labries best but he want horrid. The band sounded fantastic! They all nailed it!

Fortunately for him, he got better as the show went on. Afterlife and Metropolis are performances he'd probably like to forget.

One thing I've noticed with James on the past few tours is that he'll stray away from the phrasing on the album slightly during some passages (usually towards the end of a lyrical stanza/section). This is usually where he tries too hard to do something he shouldn't and it makes me want him to stick to singing the songs the way they are on the albums. Now that being said, there are little quirks he does live that are better, but he'd benefit from sticking to the phrasing from the albums.

ResultsMayVary · « **Reply #50 on:** July 31, 2015, 05:34:24 PM »

Quote from: The Presence of Frenemies on July 31, 2015, 04:20:39 PM

Definitely the most interesting CM performance I've come across. Odd how James suddenly was in gear vocally on that one. Signature version of the song is still probably Universal City '07, but it's close.

Except for forgetting the last chorus on CM, I'd agree with you on James.

DarkLord_Lalinc · « **Reply #51 on:** July 31, 2015, 05:34:33 PM »

The band sounds amazing. Great drum, guitar and bass sound (keyboards sound the same always lol, so no complaints there). Vocally, not such a great performance. Maybe he's still getting better from the flu, but most of the problems came from not reaching the notes. Poor JLB, I love him and I'm usually a big supporter of him, but this isn't him at his best.

He gets better as the show goes on. They should really consider some easy songs at the beginning to make him warm up properly. Afterlife is ridiculous (and not that good of a song).

ResultsMayVary · « **Reply #52 on:** July 31, 2015, 05:37:36 PM »

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on July 31, 2015, 05:34:33 PM

He gets better as the show goes on. They should really consider some easy songs at the beginning to make him warm up properly. Afterlife is ridiculous (and not that good of a song).

I fully agree. The vocals on that song are all over the place. There are videos from this tour when he comes out and does great on that song, but it seems that might be the exception. So I agree with you on that. However, I love Afterlife and I'm glad they're playing it. It's one of the few 'good' songs from WDADU. The others being A Fortune In Lies, Ytse Jam, and The Killing Hand, imho. The others are enjoyable, but generally not as good.

DarkLord_Lalinc · « **Reply #53 on:** July 31, 2015, 05:39:50 PM »

AFIL would have been an amazing opener (and JLB does an amazing job on that on LALP)

OMFG if Bridges in the Sky sounded like this on Luna Park...SO POWAH

Take note Richard Chycki, pls.

Tomislav95 · « **Reply #54 on:** July 31, 2015, 05:40:12 PM »

James makes songs more difficult by improvising. He would do better on Afterlife if he sang it like Score or album version. Same thing with Metropolis. Why that: "...and stay ALIIIIIIVE..."?

He did that on every live version I heard (Score?) but thing he did on album sounds better imo and is easier to sing.

TAC · « **Reply #55 on:** July 31, 2015, 05:40:46 PM »

Quote from: Tomislav95 on July 31, 2015, 04:45:38 PM

I really like how audible John Myung is on whole video. DAT BASS

Yes!

bosk1 · « **Reply #56 on:** July 31, 2015, 06:08:26 PM »

Quote from: Tomislav95 on July 31, 2015, 05:40:12 PM

James makes songs more difficult by improvising. He would do better on Afterlife if he sang it like Score or album version. Same thing with Metropolis. Why that: "...and stay ALIIIIIIVE..."? He did that on every live version I heard (Score?) but thing he did on album sounds better imo and is easier to sing.

It's actually not. The thing is, leading up to that part, you have to be full-on belting it out, and there is little breathing room in that section. I have found that it is really hard to turn on a dime and go from belting to soft on that line and have it sound halfway decent (and not feel like your larynx is going to jump out of your body).

Darkstarshades · « **Reply #57 on:** July 31, 2015, 07:58:41 PM »

Labrie's Mistake at the end of Constant Motion
The naked dude at Panic Attack
Labrie's constant ruining of the melody at TSCO.

This is pure gold.

gm5k · « **Reply #58 on:** July 31, 2015, 08:04:17 PM »

JR's Snarling Pig sounds were super audible today.

Darkstarshades · « **Reply #59 on:** July 31, 2015, 08:05:45 PM »

Yeah, this one of the best mix-wise things I've ever geard by DT.
No instrument sounded intrusive, and JR was beautifully high.
John Myung stole the show, awesome, awesome bass sound.
The drums were also just in spot (altho many people apparently feel they could have been slighty higher)

gm5k · « **Reply #60 on:** July 31, 2015, 08:09:27 PM »

Quote from: Darkstarshades on July 31, 2015, 08:05:45 PM

Yeah, this one of the best mix-wise things I've ever geard by DT.
No instrument sounded intrusive, and JR was beautifully high.
John Myung stole the show, awesome, awesome bass sound.
The drums were also just in spot (altho many people apparently feel they could have been slighty higher)

Maybe Mangini could have been a little bit higher...I remember thinking this on those fast cymbal hits on the Panic Attack instrumental section where he does the interesting technique. The mix was otherwise so perfect for me I can't complain though. Would have enjoyed a bit more closeup camera focus on Mangini.

Just tried messing with my EQ settings to hear Mangini's cymbals a little clearer. Turning up 10-12K (I settled on 11) 4 or 5 DB helped a lot for me

paulstfu · « **Reply #61 on:** July 31, 2015, 10:43:42 PM »

Quote from: Darkstarshades on July 31, 2015, 07:58:41 PM

Labrie's Mistake at the end of Constant Motion
The naked dude at Panic Attack
Labrie's constant ruining of the melody at TSCO.

This is pure gold.

I add:

The weird ending of JLB on Panic Attack
The GLORIOUS ending pose of JP on the same song
JM stage presence

And don't forget this guy:

Ok, I know it's not a perfect gif, but well... There you go

Madman Shepherd · « **Reply #62 on:** July 31, 2015, 10:58:07 PM »

You guys are leaving out the best part....John Myung is almost smiling when they take their bows!

Aside from that, the vocals sounded really off the first two songs. Not just James, who struggled a bit, but the actual sound of the vocals. Fortunately, everything went better after the first two songs and I thought it was a killer performance. I loved CM. BMS sounded great but they clearly rerecorded the "burning my soul" altered voice and it sounded horrible.

gulranek · « **Reply #63 on:** July 31, 2015, 11:15:50 PM »

I gotta say James sounded much better at the Metaldays festival... And I agree, Afterlife is a pretty hard song for an opener, they should have taken his warming up into consideration while creating the setlist.

Also, it's incredible how much more atmosphere there is when a show is played during night, as opposed to this daytime show.

erwinrafael · « **Reply #64 on:** July 31, 2015, 11:19:06 PM »

I love the melodic ending to Metropolis Pt. 1.

It's been several yearsa already, but everytime there's a DT Youtube video uploaded, the "I wish Portnoy is back" comments still keep on coming. And because Mangini drummed the hell out of this show, people are now wishing Portnoy is back for his back-up vocals.

rumborak · « **Reply #65 on:** July 31, 2015, 11:34:07 PM »

MM played well, but there were like, what, 4 shots of him in those 1.5 hours?

gmillerdrake · « **Reply #66 on:** July 31, 2015, 11:40:54 PM »

Quote from: rumborak on July 31, 2015, 11:34:07 PM

MM played well, but there were like, what, 4 shots of him in those 1.5 hours?

Yeah no kidding...that was a bummer for sure. He played his balls off and sounded great and we didn't even get to 'see' him do it.

Just re-watched the show and I agree with the sentiment that JLB did improve as the show progressed....but he was rough early on.

The band sounded so tight and the mix was spot on. Agree also with the JMX comments...it was awesome to hear him so represented and awesome to watch him perform. Would love to know what JLB said to him when they were taking their bow.

JP looked as if he had seen the thread where people were questioning if he'd lost a step and he decided to slap everyone who believed so in the face to bring them back to reality. I'm fairly certain he played so many notes so fast he reversed time and killed the dinosaurs with his fingers of fire.

wasteland · « **Reply #67 on:** August 01, 2015, 12:58:22 AM »

It's weird, James was really much stronger on Pistoia, he was basically always going for the higher phrasing throughout Afterlife! Maybe he's suffering from fatigue or he had a relapse of whatever he suffered from earlier on this tour?

CrimsonSunrise · « **Reply #68 on:** August 01, 2015, 01:37:21 AM »

There are just some times where I have a real hard time listening to James, this qualifies as one. Otherwise the band sounds awesome.

Darkstarshades · « **Reply #69 on:** August 01, 2015, 01:44:19 AM »

I hate the way he fucks up the melody at The Spirit Carries On. Vocal problems like being sick or tired, I can forgive that, but deliberately messing with an emotive song to make it sound like you're speaking, not that (This same issue at the "I found out what all of this means" part was what ruined the almost perfect performance at LALP)
Ok, you sing it everynight, it gets tedious, I agree. I wouldn't mind if he messed with CM or other more active songs, but you just can't mess with songs that create an atmosphere such as TSCO, you can hear the audience following the CD while he talks.

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Author Topic: DT on Wacken 2015 - live broadcasting (Read 17461 times)