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Re: Sense8 Thread
« Reply #35 on: May 07, 2017, 02:01:45 PM »
Gonna get on season 2 now. Just knocked out Peaky Blinders in time for this second season. Looking forward to it.
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« Reply #36 on: May 07, 2017, 11:44:47 PM »
Watched the first three tonight. That second (first new) episode was a bit slow to start but it certainly picked up the pace.
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« Reply #37 on: May 13, 2017, 11:41:49 PM »
Hammered out Season 2. Very good show. Loved the introduction and exploration of the other clusters and groups of Sense8 folks. It's a cool story their telling and I could see this being good for another solid two or three seasons.

My only complaint is the over doing it on the whole LGBT thing. I get the Wachowski brothers/sisters have transitioned and all but mid season they bogged down the story with the repetitive, slow storytelling of the LGBT angle of the characters. It felt like beating a dead horse to me.

Looking forward to season 3 though. Hopefully it doesn't take as long as season 2 did to get here.
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« Reply #38 on: May 13, 2017, 11:46:27 PM »
I almost get blisters when some socjus crap comes up on TV nowadays, but I felt that even though there was a lot of it in Sense8, it was done in a good way that at least serves a purpose to the story and character development. It's not just "lol you're white therefore bad, get educated" or "Hi, I'm trans/gay/whatever" type of thing.

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« Reply #39 on: May 13, 2017, 11:53:15 PM »
I almost get blisters when some socjus crap comes up on TV nowadays, but I felt that even though there was a lot of it in Sense8, it was done in a good way that at least serves a purpose to the story and character development. It's not just "lol you're white therefore bad, get educated" or "Hi, I'm trans/gay/whatever" type of thing.

It is important to the characters I agree. But at this point in the story it's a point that had been made already. The Parade for Carlito was important and Nomi's wedding speech was important. At this stage of the story....there shouldn't be the need for any more dedicated time telling those stories.

Although, I get the feeling that there is going to be some pretty gratuitous gay/straight sex scenes going on in the Hollywood setting. That was already over the top in the one scene they presented.
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« Reply #40 on: May 14, 2017, 12:01:24 AM »
Yeah, the Holywood thing was a bit ridiculous and over the top even for this show, lol.

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« Reply #41 on: May 15, 2017, 12:03:09 PM »
I almost get blisters when some socjus crap comes up on TV nowadays, but I felt that even though there was a lot of it in Sense8, it was done in a good way that at least serves a purpose to the story and character development. It's not just "lol you're white therefore bad, get educated" or "Hi, I'm trans/gay/whatever" type of thing.

It is important to the characters I agree. But at this point in the story it's a point that had been made already. The Parade for Carlito was important and Nomi's wedding speech was important. At this stage of the story....there shouldn't be the need for any more dedicated time telling those stories.

Although, I get the feeling that there is going to be some pretty gratuitous gay/straight sex scenes going on in the Hollywood setting. That was already over the top in the one scene they presented.

Agreed, there really is no need for more education to the audience, I mean, yes it's part of the show, so we will have it naturally added, but there is so much more to the story, and the premise of the entire show in general is quite complex and really takes up a lot of the episodes.

I loved this season and will be waiting for 3.


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Re: Sense8 Thread
« Reply #42 on: May 15, 2017, 12:55:25 PM »
Dunno what you guys are on about, Lito's experiences are absolutely integral to his personal story and they don't spend any more time on that than they do the main personal stories for the other characters. For Nomi it's important but less integral to her current story, and so correspondingly they spend less time on it.

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« Reply #43 on: May 15, 2017, 01:47:27 PM »
Dunno what you guys are on about, Lito's experiences are absolutely integral to his personal story and they don't spend any more time on that than they do the main personal stories for the other characters. For Nomi it's important but less integral to her current story, and so correspondingly they spend less time on it.

I do agree with you that Lito's story needed to be told and for that character it's been told rather well. I thought Nomi's speech and subsequent scene where her Dad calls her 'daughter' was a perfect landing spot for that aspect of her story....they focused on her in the first season a lot so that's why her story got less time and it feels 'complete' to me as far aspect of her character. 

I think the fact that I watched 5 episodes in a row influenced my initial reaction as to it all 'being a little bit much'....and I'll admit that my personal views on 'alternative lifestyles' is still a work in progress. I'm certainly more understanding about the LGBT community than I was...say... 5 years ago and don't think there is any deserved condemnation for such a lifestyle.....but it is still difficult for me to understand given my beliefs. But that's a whole P/R thread topic.   
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Re: Sense8 Thread
« Reply #44 on: May 15, 2017, 04:21:41 PM »
Sure thing, I get that and I fully understand how that might make those sorts of scenes a little more distinctive and noticeable which can affect how prominent/dominant they feel.

I think they do a really great job pacing the show and, over the course of a season, spending enough time with each character and their own personal story. I guess Will, Riley and Nomi's personal story is now linked heavily in to the main plot and I wonder whether over time the others will become more directly tied in. I should note that I haven't finished season 2 yet, on episode 8 currently so will get caught up in the next few days.

In terms of your own journey, as you say it's probably something for P&R but I think it's good that we're always learning and understanding. I don't know much about your faith/background but would be very interested to discuss it (though not in this thread, obviously!).

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« Reply #45 on: May 17, 2017, 05:31:41 AM »
Dunno what you guys are on about, Lito's experiences are absolutely integral to his personal story and they don't spend any more time on that than they do the main personal stories for the other characters. For Nomi it's important but less integral to her current story, and so correspondingly they spend less time on it.

I do agree with you that Lito's story needed to be told and for that character it's been told rather well. I thought Nomi's speech and subsequent scene where her Dad calls her 'daughter' was a perfect landing spot for that aspect of her story....they focused on her in the first season a lot so that's why her story got less time and it feels 'complete' to me as far aspect of her character. 

I think the fact that I watched 5 episodes in a row influenced my initial reaction as to it all 'being a little bit much'....and I'll admit that my personal views on 'alternative lifestyles' is still a work in progress. I'm certainly more understanding about the LGBT community than I was...say... 5 years ago and don't think there is any deserved condemnation for such a lifestyle.....but it is still difficult for me to understand given my beliefs. But that's a whole P/R thread topic.

I didn't mean for it to come out like I was "on" anything. Just an observational addition to a previous post with some agreement. I just believe that there is so much going on in this show that time is precious. Whether heterosexual or any other, if it's a part that contributes, that's great. If it really doesn't need to be there, then they shouldn't waste the film or the time. The LGBT, or homosexuality roles have absolutely nothing to do with it in my perspective. I've always had this view with well written shows or movies(don't force this sex scene in if it's not needed...I have other avenues for that :hat)

IMO, they do a great job at this as the show is really starting to move forward now. My only problem is that I watch the season so quickly that I leave myself wanting more, only having to wait another year.

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Re: Sense8 Thread
« Reply #46 on: May 17, 2017, 06:09:32 AM »
I suppose it depends on what you think the show is about. If you're only interested in the Whispers/BPO/etc central plot thread, then yeah I guess you'd want everything else stripped down, though that should also include Capheus's fight against poverty, Wolfgang's experiences in the criminal underworld, Kala's marriage, Sun's fugitive status, etc.

But for me it's not just the main plot thread and that's it. The experiences of all these different characters in their own personal stories, and how the others in their cluster are affected and can help, are exactly the point of the show. Personally I think the pacing is exactly right for balancing the two aspects.

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Re: Sense8 Thread
« Reply #47 on: May 17, 2017, 06:59:39 AM »
For me, still working through my understanding of try LGBT community and lifestyle.....I think Rich nailed it when he said

those sorts of scenes a little more distinctive and noticeable which can affect how prominent/dominant they feel.

I'm probably just more sensitive to those scenes being that I'm still, for the lack of a better word, uncomfortable with it.

But i do agree as well the pacing on the show is pretty spot on. The 'personal' exposition for each character is necessary and it's a good mix between that and eluding the BPO. Although I'd prefer more action and prevelance with the BPO storyline....I think thus far the mix between all the variables in the show has been great.
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Re: Sense8 Thread
« Reply #48 on: May 17, 2017, 07:12:56 AM »
For me, I think the balance means that those more dramatic moments are more intense and engaging than they would be if they swamped the show. I finished episode 8 (counting the Christmas episode as 1, as Netflix does) this morning on the way into work, and the shootout at the end and whole build up to it was so good.

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Re: Sense8 Thread
« Reply #49 on: June 01, 2017, 06:31:18 PM »
Canceled  :( :( :(

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« Reply #50 on: June 01, 2017, 06:45:47 PM »
Canceled  :( :( :(

WHAT! That sucks! There's so much story left to tell!
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Re: Sense8 Thread
« Reply #51 on: June 01, 2017, 08:08:18 PM »
I still need to watch this movie
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Re: Sense8 Thread
« Reply #52 on: June 01, 2017, 11:43:38 PM »
nooooooooooooooooooooooooo

That's so lame when shows get cancelled on a cliffhanger. Really unprofessional of the network, and so I'm extremely disappointed in Netflix which never normally does that. They should have given another season on the basis that it would be the last one so that the story can be wrapped up.

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« Reply #53 on: June 02, 2017, 04:07:36 AM »
I'm very sad but not surprised at all. In fact, I was hoping expecting it would be canceled after S1 as it didn't turn into a massive hit and the way the show was structured, it was financially stupid. I've read that for season 2, Sens8 cost about $9mln per episode. Which is insane and Netflix's model really isn't built to support that, imo, especially if a show is not a major subscription pusher.

It's sad as this is the only show where you can see a diverse cast, characters and authentic settings that feel natural and feed into the story and improve it, instead of feeling like pandering or just fulfilling arbitrary quotas to avoid bad press.
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« Reply #54 on: June 02, 2017, 06:34:28 AM »
I'm very sad but not surprised at all. In fact, I was hoping it would be cancelled after S1 as it didn't turn into a massive hit and the way the show was structured, it was financially stupid. I've read that for season 2, Sens8 cost about $9mln per episode. Which is insane and Netflix's model really isn't built to support that, imo, especially if a show is not a major subscription pusher.

While this is true, Season 3 wouldn't have cost that much because most of that was due to filming in 8 different cities which judging by the end of season 2 wouldn't have been the case. They should have done one last season to wrap things up.
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« Reply #55 on: June 02, 2017, 08:15:46 AM »
It's sad as this is the only show where you can see a diverse cast, characters and authentic settings that feel natural and feed into the story and improve it, instead of feeling like pandering or just fulfilling arbitrary quotas to avoid bad press.
Completely agreed, this is one of the absolute strongest shows in that regard, and something quite unique. Huge loss.

In terms of viewers, Netflix has made it very clear that it doesn't really care about viewer numbers as its subscription-funded rather than ad-funded. So with something that's doing only ok, I strongly feel the decent thing to do is give the showrunners notice that they only have 1 season/x episodes/$Ym left to finish things.

To just cancel outright with not even a concluding mini-series or anything is incredibly dickish.

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« Reply #56 on: June 02, 2017, 09:08:08 AM »
Yep. I have a feeling that they'd be able to wrap up Sense8 with another season, or had they known they'd only get a second season it'd could have been possible.

They had just opened the doors to other clusters and a grand(er) conspiracy and now it's just left out there to wonder about.
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« Reply #57 on: June 02, 2017, 09:28:23 AM »
Yep.

Nerdist was speculating whether they'd be allowed to do another Christmas special to wrap things up. As with Firefly/Serenity it would ultimately be a bit disappointing, but it would at least provide closure.

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« Reply #58 on: June 02, 2017, 09:47:41 AM »
What are the odds Amazon or Hulu grab it?
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« Reply #59 on: June 02, 2017, 11:40:42 AM »
Maybe if enough people complain they'll bring it back.

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« Reply #60 on: August 17, 2017, 09:38:52 AM »
Apparently the pornsite Xhamster wants to produce the next season. Now normaly I always post the source but in this case...well I like to countinue being a member on DTF.  :P
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« Reply #61 on: August 17, 2017, 06:04:17 PM »
Apparently the pornsite Xhamster wants to produce the next season. Now normaly I always post the source but in this case...well I like to countinue being a member on DTF.  :P

Was just reading about this and found out that due to the fan support NETFLIX has already greenlit the Wachowski's for a two hour series finale next year to give them the opportunity to wrap the series up.

Not sure how you wrap it up in two hours but at least it's something
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« Reply #62 on: August 23, 2017, 12:13:36 PM »
Anyone watching this one? I'm about five episodes in and am totally hooked. The premise they are slowly establishing looks good for a multiple season viewer mindfuck for sure.

I haven't read the whole thread but I'll just say YES YES!!! It's the best thing ever!!!!  :)

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« Reply #63 on: August 23, 2017, 12:43:26 PM »
Nem's first post in nearly a year and a half! :lol

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« Reply #65 on: September 05, 2017, 10:05:48 PM »
wtf..... she posted..... *faints*
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« Reply #66 on: September 08, 2017, 10:59:41 AM »
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