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I'd like to present a hypothesis.
« on: May 22, 2015, 06:27:51 AM »
Jordan Rudess does NOT overplay! He plays precisely what he intends when he intends it. No more, no less. It is his style.

We, collectively, under-listen!

That's my proposal.
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Re: I'd like to present a hypothesis.
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2015, 06:53:40 AM »
I like this hypothesis.
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Re: I'd like to present a hypothesis.
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2015, 06:55:01 AM »
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Re: I'd like to present a hypothesis.
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2015, 08:41:01 AM »
I overstand  now.
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Re: I'd like to present a hypothesis.
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2015, 08:49:38 AM »
I don't think he overplays; by and large, he stops playing at the end of the song.
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Re: I'd like to present a hypothesis.
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2015, 08:55:45 AM »
All very good points. I agree.

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Re: I'd like to present a hypothesis.
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2015, 08:56:42 AM »
I don't think he overplays; by and large, he stops playing at the end of the song.

:lol

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Re: I'd like to present a hypothesis.
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2015, 10:08:11 AM »
I don't think he overplays; by and large, he stops playing at the end of the song.

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Re: I'd like to present a hypothesis.
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2015, 10:18:19 AM »
Jordan Rudess does NOT overplay! He plays precisely what he intends when he intends it. No more, no less. It is his style.

We, collectively, under-listen!

That's my proposal.

Your post makes absolutely no sense. You've essentially said he plays what he wants, and thus it's not overplaying. But the criticism of overplaying is an observation of his work, not an observation of how he sees his work. You can't watch a horrible cover on youtube and say, it's actually good, cause they played it exactly how they intended to!

Not saying he does or doesn't overplay, but your reasoning just finds no basis in logic to me.
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Re: I'd like to present a hypothesis.
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2015, 11:02:31 AM »
That fact that I can see his face and not a mountain of keyboards show me he's not using both hands and playing what fills. 

Now if he wore a cape, that would change everything.
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Re: I'd like to present a hypothesis.
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2015, 11:03:44 AM »

Now if he wore a cape, that would change everything.

I see what you did in there...
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Re: I'd like to present a hypothesis.
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2015, 11:04:19 AM »
Jordan Rudess does NOT overplay! He plays precisely what he intends when he intends it. No more, no less. It is his style.

We, collectively, under-listen!

That's my proposal.

Your post makes absolutely no sense. You've essentially said he plays what he wants, and thus it's not overplaying. But the criticism of overplaying is an observation of his work, not an observation of how he sees his work. You can't watch a horrible cover on youtube and say, it's actually good, cause they played it exactly how they intended to!

Not saying he does or doesn't overplay, but your reasoning just finds no basis in logic to me.

THIS.
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Re: I'd like to present a hypothesis.
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2015, 11:41:30 AM »
I don't know what's funnier, that I'm so inept at joking or that I can't figure out if Nick and JediKnight1969 are pulling my weenie?  :lol

Not saying he does or doesn't overplay, but your reasoning just finds no basis in logic to me.

That's because I wasn't using logic!
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Re: I'd like to present a hypothesis.
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2015, 11:44:26 AM »
He was using BeeBoP!
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Re: I'd like to present a hypothesis.
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2015, 11:46:37 AM »
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Re: I'd like to present a hypothesis.
« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2015, 12:49:23 PM »
You can't watch a horrible cover on youtube and say, it's actually good, cause they played it exactly how they intended to!

You had me until this. 

I think that is the ONLY way you can say it is actually "good".  Everything else is just "what I like" or "what I don't like".    To me, the only "good" and "bad" in artistic expression is "how close did the artist come to his/her ultimate vision"? 

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Re: I'd like to present a hypothesis.
« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2015, 01:30:48 PM »
That fact that I can see his face and not a mountain of keyboards show me he's not using both hands and playing what fills. 

Now if he wore a cape, that would change everything.

I take it you're not a fan of Rick Wakeman.

As for the overall theme of this thread: you could KIND OF make the same argument about Mike Portnoy.

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Re: I'd like to present a hypothesis.
« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2015, 01:34:46 PM »
Hef...or any mod, really. Please, please lock this thread!

Or, better yet, just delete it?

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Re: I'd like to present a hypothesis.
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2015, 01:41:44 PM »
Hef...or any mod, really. Please, please lock this thread!
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