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Re: The DC Movies Thread v Wonder Gal
« Reply #805 on: March 13, 2017, 12:07:15 PM »
I didn't bother with that one but I heard it was awful.

I think Zack Snyder is the wrong person to be making these films.
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Re: The DC Movies Thread v Wonder Gal
« Reply #806 on: March 13, 2017, 12:26:00 PM »
I think Zack Snyder is the wrong person to be making these films.
I agree, but he didn't make Suicide Squad or Wonder Woman.

Well, he didn't direct them.  I guess he probably is an executive producer or something.

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Re: The DC Movies Thread v Wonder Gal
« Reply #807 on: March 13, 2017, 01:53:22 PM »
It looks good, but I'm really not impressed by any of it to be honest. As much as I liked Gal Gadot in BvS, she's really not inspiring me much in these trailers, nor is the dialogue in general.
I can't say I really remember any dialogue from the trailer - don't think there even was much was there? Other than little snippets.

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« Reply #808 on: March 15, 2017, 03:42:35 AM »
So, Ben Affleck has been treated for alchohol addiction. Why he left the directors chair for the new Batman-movie makes even more sense now.
Poor guy..

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Re: The DC Movies Thread v Wonder Gal
« Reply #809 on: March 15, 2017, 10:40:28 AM »
So, Ben Affleck has been treated for alchohol addiction. Why he left the directors chair for the new Batman-movie makes even more sense now.
Poor guy..

Yeah I don't think that has anything to do with it  :lol

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Re: The DC Movies Thread v Wonder Gal
« Reply #810 on: March 15, 2017, 08:54:50 PM »
It might have a little bit to do with it, but it's definitely not the defining factor of why he decided not to direct it.

Regardless, good for him on getting his life together. In his statement, he said he wanted to be a better father figure for his children. I think it's great he took these steps.

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Re: The DC Movies Thread v Wonder Gal
« Reply #811 on: March 15, 2017, 09:16:51 PM »
Clearly he needs to be friend with Kevin Smith again.
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Re: The DC Movies Thread v Wonder Gal
« Reply #812 on: March 16, 2017, 04:30:24 PM »
I think the connection to draw from it is that the DCEU drove Ben Affleck to alcoholism  :P

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Re: The DC Movies Thread v Wonder Gal
« Reply #813 on: March 16, 2017, 04:32:01 PM »
I think the connection to draw from it is that the DCEU drove Ben Affleck to alcoholism  :P

At first it was just the movie that had dailies.


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Re: The DC Movies Thread v Wonder Gal
« Reply #814 on: March 23, 2017, 11:42:47 AM »
OMG! Justice League trailer dropping this Saturday!!  :o

Short teaser: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eJ7NGllyw0


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Re: The DC Movies Thread v Wonder Gal
« Reply #815 on: March 23, 2017, 11:45:01 AM »
Cool, it'd be nice if they finally made a good movie.
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« Reply #816 on: March 23, 2017, 11:46:18 AM »
Cool, it'd be nice if they finally made a good movie.

But DC keep hitting home runs!
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Re: The DC Movies Thread v Wonder Gal
« Reply #817 on: March 23, 2017, 11:48:57 AM »
DC have also worn out their welcome with great trailers. They're no longer enough to get me excited about the movie.

MoS? Good trailer. Horrid movie.
BvS? Great trailer. Not a good movie.
Suicide Squad? Amazing trailer. Awful movie.
Wonder Woman? Boring trailers.........potentially good movie.
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Re: The DC Movies Thread v Wonder Gal
« Reply #818 on: March 23, 2017, 12:40:11 PM »
Cool, it'd be nice if they finally made a good movie.

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Re: The DC Movies Thread v Wonder Gal
« Reply #819 on: March 23, 2017, 12:44:18 PM »
Yeah even the worst MCU movie ( in my opinion ) Iron Man 2 - is still better than anything from the DCU thus far.



Man Of Steel could have been good but the last 40 minutes is just ridiculous. And then Supes smashing that spy plane and going " don't spy on me - I do what i want ".

Terrible.
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Re: The DC Movies Thread v Wonder Gal
« Reply #820 on: March 23, 2017, 12:56:53 PM »
I like Man of Steel, but it completely missed the point of who Superman is.
I liked BvS when I first saw it, but the second time I was bored to death.
Suicide Squad was just...meh..

The trend so far has been, the better the trailer, the worse the movie.

I have no faith in Zack Snyder whatsoever, and I'm not very familiar with the work of Patty Jenkins (the WW director). What MAY save Wonder Woman and JL is the fact that Geoff Johns has been directly involved with both those movies. He was only involved with the last minute editing of Suicide Squad, and nothing could have saved that movie with what they had to work with. He is a great comic book writer, so I really hope he have guided Snyder some what..
However.. Johns was also an executive producer on Green Lantern........

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Re: The DC Movies Thread v Wonder Gal
« Reply #821 on: March 23, 2017, 01:13:07 PM »
I blame the Dark Knight for all movies taking a darker grittier route.

MARVEL luckily know how to pitch their movies. But I wouldn't be shocked if they started getting darker from here on out.
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Re: The DC Movies Thread v Wonder Gal
« Reply #822 on: March 23, 2017, 01:18:17 PM »
I so much want Justice League to be good. I was always a DC fan to begin with, since way before I knew anything about the Avengers. I'm also afraid and sort of expecting at this point that it won't be very good. But we'll see, I'm still very excited to see it.
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Re: The DC Movies Thread v Wonder Gal
« Reply #823 on: March 23, 2017, 01:20:15 PM »
I didn't know what an MCU was until after I saw The Avengers on a whim. I only went because Joss Whedon directed it and I liked Firefly.

I loved it.

it was brightly lit. Had comedy. Fun characters. Action without being boring. Fight scenes that weren't *just* two people punching for 10+ mins.

Great uplifting score too.


Can you apply any of the above to any of the DCU movies ?


Edit - Actually I did like Wonder Woman's "theme". That was my favourite thing about BVS  :biggrin:
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Re: The DC Movies Thread v Wonder Gal
« Reply #824 on: March 23, 2017, 01:23:57 PM »
I blame the Dark Knight for all movies taking a darker grittier route.

MARVEL luckily know how to pitch their movies. But I wouldn't be shocked if they started getting darker from here on out.

I think Cap 2 and 3 are about as dark as Marvel will go. They're owned by Disney. Don't expect any R ratings or super gritty times.
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Re: The DC Movies Thread v Wonder Gal
« Reply #825 on: March 23, 2017, 01:33:00 PM »
It seems like they are releasing 15 sec teasers of every JL character before the main trailer is released.
The last one was Aquaman, this is Batman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDZKPzEnZ-4  ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: The DC Movies Thread v Wonder Gal
« Reply #826 on: March 23, 2017, 01:42:04 PM »
I blame the Dark Knight for all movies taking a darker grittier route.

MARVEL luckily know how to pitch their movies. But I wouldn't be shocked if they started getting darker from here on out.
This is a bit simplistic, as some of the dark, gritty comic book films (Dark Knight trilogy, Logan) have been amazing and some of the lighter ones have sucked. So the two are unrelated.

That said, MCU is consistently better than DCU at this point.

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Re: The DC Movies Thread v Wonder Gal
« Reply #827 on: March 23, 2017, 01:45:17 PM »
I blame the Dark Knight for all movies taking a darker grittier route.

MARVEL luckily know how to pitch their movies. But I wouldn't be shocked if they started getting darker from here on out.
This is a bit simplistic, as some of the dark, gritty comic book films (Dark Knight trilogy, Logan) have been amazing and some of the lighter ones have sucked. So the two are unrelated.

That said, MCU is consistently better than DCU at this point.

If you compare the two chronologically :

Iron Man
The Incredible Hulk ( Ed Norton )
Iron Man 2



Man Of Steel
BVS
Suicide Squad




Hulk and Iron Man 2 aren't the best but they're better than BVS & Suicide Squad respectively. Next up is Wonder Woman V Thor then Justice League vs The Avengers.

I think Phase I of the MCU is better so far just from having Iron Man 1.
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Re: The DC Movies Thread v Wonder Gal
« Reply #828 on: March 23, 2017, 02:00:03 PM »
Personally I'd put MoS and BvS roughly on a par with Iron Man 2. But yeah, that's still the least good MCU film. :lol

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« Reply #829 on: March 23, 2017, 06:20:00 PM »
You can do dark and you can do light good or bad.  Dark does not equate bad.


The Dark Knight is amazing.
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« Reply #830 on: March 23, 2017, 06:29:44 PM »
The Dark Knight is good but Chris Nolan needs to learn to kill his darlings.
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« Reply #831 on: March 23, 2017, 06:42:08 PM »
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« Reply #832 on: March 24, 2017, 02:07:37 AM »
I think the MCU has done almost everything better than the DCEU but one area the latter has absolutely blown MCU out of the water with is the scores. There isn't a single MCU movie with a memorable score, but both MoS and BvS have great ones. And for all the problems with Suicide Squad, the score isn't one of them. The soundtrack with all the pop songs? Sure, but not the original score.
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« Reply #833 on: March 24, 2017, 02:13:49 AM »
I think the MCU has done almost everything better than the DCEU but one area the latter has absolutely blown MCU out of the water with is the scores. There isn't a single MCU movie with a memorable score, but both MoS and BvS have great ones. And for all the problems with Suicide Squad, the score isn't one of them. The soundtrack with all the pop songs? Sure, but not the original score.

I agree that the MCU has totally forgettable scores, but I also can't remember much of the DCEU scores.

The one exception is Wonder Woman's theme. That is just a super cool theme.

I really wish the MCU would give their characters amazing memorable themes. Though, to be fair, nothing will ever top Danny Elfman's Batman theme.
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Re: The DC Movies Thread v Wonder Gal
« Reply #834 on: March 24, 2017, 02:53:10 AM »
The Avengers title theme is the one that stands out for me.
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Re: The DC Movies Thread v Wonder Gal
« Reply #835 on: March 24, 2017, 03:09:14 AM »
The MCU scores have been slightly forgettable but I can't say I like the DCEU scores that much either. The only theme that sticks to my mind is the Wonder Woman theme, because I hate it and it has managed to ingrain itself on my brain.

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Re: The DC Movies Thread v Wonder Gal
« Reply #836 on: March 24, 2017, 03:13:51 AM »
Theory : Kevin Feige is giving Zack Snyder 10% of all of the MCU profits to make awful DCU movies :p :p
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Re: The DC Movies Thread v Wonder Gal
« Reply #837 on: March 24, 2017, 03:22:11 AM »
I feel like Zack Snyder was such as mistake from the start. We're talking about the guy who said:

"Everyone says that about [Christopher Nolan's] Batman Begins. "Batman's dark." I'm like, okay, "No, Batman's cool." He gets to go to a Tibetan monastery and be trained by ninjas. Okay? I want to do that. But he doesn't, like, get raped in prison. That could happen in my movie. If you want to talk about dark, that's how that would go."

Yeah, that's really what I want from my Batman.

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Re: The DC Movies Thread v Wonder Gal
« Reply #838 on: March 24, 2017, 03:23:51 AM »
And we really need a miserable Superman who doesn't save people.
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Re: The DC Movies Thread v Wonder Gal
« Reply #839 on: March 24, 2017, 03:28:04 AM »
And we really need a miserable Superman who doesn't save people.

Urgh yeah that's even worse really. You really wanna contrast a dark Batman with a more heroic Superman who puts the lives of others over anything else. Like they pointed out hilariously in Half in the Bag, the heroic moments when Superman saves people in both MoS and BvS are shown like moments of burden for Superman. Like he has to interrupt his killing spree to go save some people from an oil rig.