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« Reply #140 on: March 23, 2015, 07:06:23 PM »
Sometimes, I actually really find myself liking Don't Look To the Eyes of a Stranger....in the same way that I enjoy a light drip of water falling on my forehead.   But the end result of both is exactly the same.   
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« Reply #141 on: March 23, 2015, 07:11:10 PM »
if memory serves: The Nomad, The Mercenary and maybe another one, speculated to be Blood Brothers?

Wait! Dream of Mirrors was one of them! Rumor even has it that Blaze wrote some of the lyrics to that song but that Steve bought out his portion of the songwriting credit due to a band policy of not crediting former members.
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« Reply #142 on: March 23, 2015, 09:39:28 PM »
My "No Fear of the Dying" tracklist:

1. Tailgunner
2. Be Quick or Be Dead
3. From Here to Eternity
4. Fates Warning
5. Holy Smoke
6. Afraid to Shoot Strangers
7. Fear is the Key
8. Judas Be My Guide
9. Run Silent Run Deep
10. Wasting Love
11. Bring Your Daughter...To the Slaughter
12. Fear of the Dark

Flows pretty well I think.


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« Reply #143 on: March 23, 2015, 09:50:57 PM »
if memory serves: The Nomad, The Mercenary and maybe another one, speculated to be Blood Brothers?

Wait! Dream of Mirrors was one of them! Rumor even has it that Blaze wrote some of the lyrics to that song but that Steve bought out his portion of the songwriting credit due to a band policy of not crediting former members.

Not true.   Adrian Smith co-wrote Hooks in You for No Prayer...for which he was a "former member".
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« Reply #144 on: March 24, 2015, 01:11:21 AM »
In my opinion TAATG is a really cool song with a good vibe... that should be quite a bit shorter. The number of chorus repetitions hurts it quite a bit. As a 5 or 6 minute song it would be very good.

Agreed, and I think that's why I enjoy the single edit of the song.  It totally cuts out the quieter part. 

If they had put the single edit on the album, then I wouldn't have too much of an issue with it on the whole.  I would cut Two Worlds.  Also DLttEoaS is pretty rank.  The X Factor b-sides are far better than those two.

1. Futureal
2. Angel and the Gambler (single edit)
3. Lightning Strikes Twice
4. The Clansman
5. The Educated Fool
6. Como Estais Amigos
7. Judgement Day
8. Justice of the Peace

Should've just done that, Steve...

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« Reply #145 on: March 24, 2015, 05:41:15 AM »
I agree, the edit is pretty excellent.  That's really the only spot on VXI that doesn't do it for me.  I enjoy everything else.

Love seeing Justice of the Peace and Judgement Day mentioned there sneaky, so damn good.  The other X Factor bonus track I Live My Way is decent too.

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« Reply #146 on: March 24, 2015, 09:10:35 AM »
if memory serves: The Nomad, The Mercenary and maybe another one, speculated to be Blood Brothers?

Wait! Dream of Mirrors was one of them! Rumor even has it that Blaze wrote some of the lyrics to that song but that Steve bought out his portion of the songwriting credit due to a band policy of not crediting former members.

Not true.   Adrian Smith co-wrote Hooks in You for No Prayer...for which he was a "former member".

Hmm, yeah, that is an interesting exception. However, Steve has historically enforced this policy. It's pretty well known, for example, that Strange World was at least partially written by a former member.
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« Reply #147 on: March 24, 2015, 09:11:04 AM »
Cram, going back to the '91 tour, the setlist was cool too.
After opening with Tailgunner and Public Enema #1 (which is a great song with a horrid title) they went full bore into:
Wrathchild
Die With Your Boots On
Hallowed Be Thy Name
22 Acacia Avenue

Okay...so when does the "cool" part of the set start?
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« Reply #148 on: March 24, 2015, 09:28:38 AM »
Wait! Dream of Mirrors was one of them! Rumor even has it that Blaze wrote some of the lyrics to that song but that Steve bought out his portion of the songwriting credit due to a band policy of not crediting former members.

Here's a link on this, by the way. The relevant part begins shortly after the 7 minute mark in the video. Blaze outright says he helped write Dream of Mirrors, and mentions Blood Brothers among two other songs that were left over from VXI and used on BNW. So assuming he didn't make that up based on that comment from Adrian, that's true. And if you watch the whole video, Blaze remains very grateful and positive towards Maiden, so I don't think he made it up.
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« Reply #149 on: March 24, 2015, 09:35:37 AM »
When I first got into Maiden, I thought The Clansman was one of their best songs, and I would still put it in their top10 probably. Same with Sign of the Cross, another Blaze song. Both Rock in Rio versions are awesome. As much as the Blaze era gets a lot of crap, I think the two Blaze albums are at least on par with, and if not even better than No Prayer and Fear of the Dark. Those albums also had that "B-Side"-feeling, and despite a very few select songs (like the title track on FotD), there wasn't much to get excited about.

Maiden had a pretty weak 90's, but that makes their return to form in the 00's even more remarkable. Maiden's 90's isn't really all that different from what a lot of other bands go through, whether it's Metallica, AC/DC, Judas Priest or Deep Purple (just a few long running bands), and Maiden did something that not a lot of bands can do, they returned to form and have been very consistent since Brave New World. Dance of Death is one of those albums that I probably like more than the majority, maybe even more than BNW. AMOLAD is up there in discussions for the best Maiden album IMO, and while I thought The Final Frontier sounded a bit tired in some places, there were still some amazing songs to make up for it. I thought the first half of the album was lackluster, but everything from Isle of Avalon and forwards was pretty strong.

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« Reply #150 on: March 24, 2015, 10:11:56 AM »
When I first got into Maiden, I thought The Clansman was one of their best songs, and I would still put it in their top10 probably. Same with Sign of the Cross, another Blaze song. Both Rock in Rio versions are awesome. As much as the Blaze era gets a lot of crap, I think the two Blaze albums are at least on par with, and if not even better than No Prayer and Fear of the Dark. Those albums also had that "B-Side"-feeling, and despite a very few select songs (like the title track on FotD), there wasn't much to get excited about.

I could argue that XF and V11 are closer on par with the reunion albums in terms of song writing than with the two previous albums.  Production and vocals are what makes XF and V11 closer to the two previous albums.

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« Reply #151 on: March 24, 2015, 10:19:30 AM »
Cram, going back to the '91 tour, the setlist was cool too.
After opening with Tailgunner and Public Enema #1 (which is a great song with a horrid title) they went full bore into:
Wrathchild
Die With Your Boots On
Hallowed Be Thy Name
22 Acacia Avenue

Okay...so when does the "cool" part of the set start?
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« Reply #152 on: March 24, 2015, 10:27:39 AM »
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« Reply #153 on: March 24, 2015, 11:47:19 AM »
"Over the last few days, Bruce has been to see his specialists and following examinations, including visual, we’re delighted to update everyone that the situation remains extremely optimistic for a full recovery. We will still not have final confirmation that the cancer has been completely eradicated until Bruce can have an MRI scan in May, as previously advised in Rod’s recent message to the fans on this site, and the period to full recovery will continue for a few months yet. Typically Bruce’s immediate reaction to the specialists’ good news was to be as active as feasibly possible, taking in a couple of visits to the Maiden office, one to the Hybrid Air Vehicle hangar to see latest progress, and a brief trip to his local pub, much to the surprise and delight of all his friends there!

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« Reply #154 on: March 24, 2015, 12:40:09 PM »
Good news.  :metal

Anyway, this picture came up on a certain website - Bruce needs to keep the stasche for the upcoming album and hopefully tour with it :lol :

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« Reply #155 on: March 24, 2015, 12:43:53 PM »
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« Reply #156 on: March 24, 2015, 12:47:13 PM »
Well he seems to still have his hair which is great!

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« Reply #157 on: March 24, 2015, 01:09:04 PM »
The news is sounding good!

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« Reply #158 on: March 24, 2015, 02:49:59 PM »
I posted this a few years ago in the Old Maiden thread.

No Prayer For The Dark:

Side 1
Be Quick Or Be Dead
No Prayer For The Dying
Fear Is The Key
Fates Warning
Childhood's End
Afraid To Shoot Strangers

Side 2
The Fugitive
Run Silent Run Deep
The Assassin or Public Enema #1 (I can't decide)
Wasting Love
Judas Be My Guide
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« Reply #159 on: March 24, 2015, 03:07:31 PM »
That looks pretty good. Personally I'd do something pretty similar, but probably without Fear Is the Key and Childhood's End and with Mother Russia. And between The Assassin and Public Enema Number One I would definitely choose the better song with the worse title (Public Enema, in case you couldn't tell).
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« Reply #160 on: March 24, 2015, 03:17:28 PM »
I think I'm the only person that likes Fear Is The Key.
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« Reply #161 on: March 24, 2015, 03:20:20 PM »
I think it has its good bits, but I personally wouldn't include it on a best of early 90s disc.
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« Reply #162 on: March 24, 2015, 03:27:37 PM »
Yeah, that track definitely grew on me over the years, it's very good.

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« Reply #163 on: March 24, 2015, 03:35:34 PM »
I think I'm the only person that likes Fear Is The Key.

Fear is the Key is my favourite of the 'sub-par' FOTD tracks.  It has a really cool intro riff.  So does Chains of Misery, actually. 

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« Reply #164 on: March 24, 2015, 03:50:48 PM »
I think I'm the only person that likes Fear Is The Key.

No, I have always put FOTD in my top 5 Maiden albums, I just love it.  I love the atmosphere of Fear is the Key, it has a great vibe.  It's very different for Maiden, don't know why it's so hated.

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« Reply #165 on: March 24, 2015, 03:58:19 PM »
Bruce gives great stache.

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« Reply #166 on: March 24, 2015, 05:02:48 PM »
Yea Im not a big fan of Fear is the Key, but Chains of Misery is one of the better bad songs on FotD.  Ill give a shot for No Fear of the Dying Dark

Be Quick or Be Dead
Public Enema Number One
Holy Smoke
Afraid to Shoot Strangers
Childhood's End
Run Silent Run Deep
Judas Be My Guide
No Prayer for the Dying
Mother Russia
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« Reply #167 on: March 24, 2015, 05:13:34 PM »
I'm a fan of both, but I'll have a crack too, why not;

Be Quick or Be Dead
Tailgunner
No Prayer For the Dying
Public Enema Number 1
Fates Warning
Afraid to Shoot Strangers
Fear is the Key
Childhood's End
The Fugitive
Chains of Misery
Run Silent Run Deep
Mother Russia
Judas Be My Guide
Fear of the Dark

That's heaps of songs haha.

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« Reply #168 on: March 24, 2015, 05:17:50 PM »
That's heaps of songs haha.
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« Reply #169 on: March 24, 2015, 05:22:39 PM »
That's heaps of songs haha.
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Let's just make it a double album!

It should still fit on 1 cd.  :lol 



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« Reply #170 on: March 25, 2015, 08:29:58 PM »
Have you guys ever seen this? Freaking hilarious attempt at singing Aces High.

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« Reply #171 on: March 25, 2015, 08:35:05 PM »
 :rollin    There's a break in transmission at around 1.40.........the PC guy going to get some new jocks perhaps.
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« Reply #172 on: March 25, 2015, 09:06:08 PM »
Am I the only person in the universe who likes Holy Smoke?

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« Reply #173 on: March 25, 2015, 09:09:51 PM »
cram likes it.  so its you and cram.

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« Reply #174 on: March 25, 2015, 09:15:43 PM »
It's such a goofy song, it's hard not to like.

Also, I updated my "No Fear of the Dying" tracklist. Flows much better now:

1. Be Quick or Be Dead
2. Holy Smoke
3. From Here to Eternity
4. Fates Warning
5. Afraid to Shoot Strangers
6. Fear is the Key
7. Judas Be My Guide
8. Run Silent Run Deep
9. Wasting Love
10. Bring Your Daughter...To the Slaughter
11. Fear of the Dark

I've always hated the chorus to Tailgunner, and while the rest of the song is alright, I wouldn't miss it that much.

Next question: Am I the only one in the universe who likes Bring You Daughter...To the Slaughter? :biggrin: