Author Topic: Porcupine Tree v. No comeback by now :( (Read 16454 times)

seasonsinthesky · « **Reply #70 on:** March 05, 2015, 12:44:33 PM »

i'm glad he didn't get misquoted, at least...

KevShmev · « **Reply #71 on:** March 05, 2015, 04:26:37 PM »

One big reason why SW is better off as a solo artist right now than in PT:

In Porcupine Tree, his second guitarist (albeit only mostly live) was John Wesley.

As a solo artist, his second guitarist (and really, lead) is Guthrie Govan.

Case closed.

Of course, having said that, PT is still my 2nd favorite all-time band.

Shadow Ninja 2.0 · « **Reply #72 on:** March 05, 2015, 04:35:42 PM »

John Wesley is awesome

KevShmev · « **Reply #73 on:** March 05, 2015, 04:39:54 PM »

Except when he was given just about any solo to do live, most of which he butchered the shit out of. He seems like a talented guy, but a soloist he is not.

seasonsinthesky · « **Reply #74 on:** March 05, 2015, 06:04:51 PM »

if you mean he just doesn't play them the album way, i understand – but SW does that too (just not quite so off-the-cuff, so i also get it).

i love Wes' style and vocals, though, so i hope if they do a PT reunion, they ask him to properly join for writing/etc.

KevShmev · « **Reply #75 on:** March 05, 2015, 07:30:06 PM »

That's actually not what I mean. Nearly every solo I see him do on both PT live DVDs, I cringe at what he does with them. The one in Dark Matter is particularly objectionable.

Heretic · « **Reply #76 on:** March 05, 2015, 11:50:17 PM »

I like that he at least didn't rule out a Porcupine Tree reunion. I also like that he would want to write totally as a band... I think that would be the best thing to do if they do get back together.

Buddyhunter1 · « **Reply #77 on:** March 06, 2015, 12:49:29 PM »

Do you guys think they would have the money/popularity to do a reunion tour without releasing a new album?

Sacul · « **Reply #78 on:** March 06, 2015, 01:52:17 PM »

Zantera · « **Reply #79 on:** March 06, 2015, 03:04:49 PM »

I think they could, but I don't think SW would. Despite his lack of interest in PT at the moment, he's always been an "album over anything" person, and I think that if he wants to open another chapter with PT, it would 99.9% involve a new album as well.

? · « **Reply #80 on:** March 07, 2015, 02:31:21 AM »

Yeah, SW strikes me as the kind of musician who wouldn't tour if there was no new music in the setlist. Even on his solo tours he has premiered some material even before it's been released (Luminol, Ancestral, Happy Returns), and he might not feel comfortable playing merely songs that were written pre-2010.

rumborak · « **Reply #81 on:** March 07, 2015, 04:02:09 AM »

Could PT sans Wilson work? Even if just to perform the existing songs?

KevShmev · « **Reply #82 on:** March 07, 2015, 05:43:06 AM »

No chance.

Zantera · « **Reply #83 on:** March 07, 2015, 06:42:36 AM »

If we're talking the other guys performing the old PT songs without Wilson with Wesley on vocals, I think they could do it pretty good. Wilson is not a great singer or the best musician in terms of instrumental skill, and his biggest strengths are in the songwriting. But with that said, SW is such a vital part of what PT was, and such a big part of the popularity, that I don't think many fans would care if he wasn't there.

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #84 on:** March 07, 2015, 06:46:02 AM »

I think it would be really exciting to see what we get if PT gets back together to write more collaboratively. Gavin is a font of creativity, and for that matter Wesley is a fantastic songwriter as well.

Zantera · « **Reply #85 on:** March 07, 2015, 07:18:58 AM »

I agree. If SW wants to make another PT album, I wouldn't want him to write 95% of it. We've heard what SW writes when he writes alone for the last few solo albums, and it would be cool to see a more collaborative approach for a new PT album. If we ever get one.

rumborak · « **Reply #86 on:** March 07, 2015, 07:20:41 AM »

I would think he gets a good chunk more dough as a solo artist too.

bout to crash · « **Reply #87 on:** March 07, 2015, 08:20:58 AM »

I wonder how much dough he actually makes. I remember reading in an interview that he had put so much of his own money into this and finally broke even somewhere around Deadwing.
Which reminds me, last time Steven's birthday passed I texted Tony about it saying that he had turned 47 and he replied "It's official. He is now a millionaire who is nearly twice my age."

Nick · « **Reply #88 on:** March 07, 2015, 08:27:40 AM »

I doubt he's really beating his PT money yet. I remember him saying in the early days of his solo band, between the first and second tour that he was losing money, and planning to do for awhile yet until things get really established. He doesn't have a proper band right now, he has top notch hired guns that he has to pay in studio and on tour. In a band everyone is doing well or suffering together, but in his solo band case, those guys are getting paid well no matter what. Combine that with the fact that from day 1 he took an excellent production for sound and visuals on the road and his bills from day 1 had to be pretty intense. I'd say this round or next he might actually start seeing some good money for himself and moreso than PT at their finish.

ariich · « **Reply #89 on:** March 07, 2015, 12:50:41 PM »

I remember The Incident was more collaborative than previous PT albums, but I think that was still mostly SW right? I guess what he's talking about now is much more even sharing of the contribution.

mikemangioy · « **Reply #90 on:** March 07, 2015, 01:59:55 PM »

Wow, Steven is 47, he looks like 35

bout to crash · « **Reply #91 on:** March 07, 2015, 02:19:32 PM »

He hasn't aged or grown since 16.

Jarlaxle · « **Reply #92 on:** March 07, 2015, 02:45:58 PM »

Does anybody know what effects/pedals Colin Edwin uses predominately? I've never taken an interest in effects in my 10 years of playing, but his sound is so amazing that I would love to get something similar, especiallly Drown With Me, but would love to know what his full set up is.

Buddyhunter1 · « **Reply #93 on:** March 07, 2015, 02:53:12 PM »

Quote from: ariich on March 07, 2015, 12:50:41 PM

I remember The Incident was more collaborative than previous PT albums, but I think that was still mostly SW right? I guess what he's talking about now is much more even sharing of the contribution.

All of disc 1 was written by Steven, and all of disc 2 was collaborative, I believe.

PixelDream · « **Reply #94 on:** March 07, 2015, 03:00:20 PM »

Man, I used to think The Incident was a good record, but compared to his solo works it's just no fun at all. Disc 2 is great though! The collaborative tracks are as good as any PT in my opinion.

ariich · « **Reply #95 on:** March 07, 2015, 03:51:41 PM »

Quote from: Buddyhunter1 on March 07, 2015, 02:53:12 PM

Quote from: ariich on March 07, 2015, 12:50:41 PM
I remember The Incident was more collaborative than previous PT albums, but I think that was still mostly SW right? I guess what he's talking about now is much more even sharing of the contribution.

All of disc 1 was written by Steven, and all of disc 2 was collaborative, I believe.

Aha, yeah that sounds familiar, thanks.

? · « **Reply #96 on:** March 08, 2015, 03:35:59 AM »

I read an interview where SW said some people behind the scenes were telling him the next PT album would be "the big one" and the following tour would gross 5 million bucks, but he was bored and wanted to make a solo album instead. The GFD tour production was big and he used hired guns as his band, so he lost money instead of getting it, but he was having fun again. I've got to give him props for that - it would've been easy for him to make another PT album just for the sake of security, but he didn't compromise his integrity.

KevShmev · « **Reply #97 on:** March 08, 2015, 05:45:46 AM »

I would guess he makes good money doing those 5.1 surround sound things. He did Tull's Aqualung and some of Yes' 70s stuff, and being in charge of those kind of projects probably pays pretty well, which makes it easier for him to do tours where he loses money or only breaks even. He's still coming out way ahead. And I suspect at this point he is getting more from promoters for the shows he plays.

PixelDream · « **Reply #98 on:** March 08, 2015, 06:46:11 AM »

I think he makes good money from the deluxe editions.

? · « **Reply #99 on:** March 08, 2015, 07:12:05 AM »

Quote from: PixelDream on March 08, 2015, 06:46:11 AM

I think he makes good money from the deluxe editions.

Not really... I remember him saying none of the people involved in the making of the Insurgentes box set made a single cent out of it, because the manufacturing costs were so high. He said the box sets are a "labor of love" for everybody involved, because the price would have to be at least 60 or 70 pounds in order for them to earn something - I think the HCE deluxe version cost less than 50 in the Burning Shed store, so it's not like he's on his way to becoming a millionaire.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #100 on:** March 11, 2015, 11:15:10 AM »

Quote from: PixelDream on March 07, 2015, 03:00:20 PM

Man, I used to think The Incident was a good record, but compared to his solo works it's just no fun at all. Disc 2 is great though! The collaborative tracks are as good as any PT in my opinion.

Yes. Incident is so boring compared to Fear Of A Blank Planet.

I like " Time Flies " and " Blind House " and that's about it.

SoundscapeMN · « **Reply #101 on:** March 11, 2015, 04:53:08 PM »

and there are the few fans like myself who enjoyed The Incident for the most part, yet find the constant praise of Fear of a Blank Planet, nauseating. And actually think the Nil Recurring EP is a lot better.

King Postwhore · « **Reply #102 on:** March 11, 2015, 04:57:40 PM »

Quote from: SoundscapeMN on March 11, 2015, 04:53:08 PM

and there are the few fans like myself who enjoyed The Incident for the most part, yet find the constant praise of Fear of a Blank Planet, nauseating. And actually think the Nil Recurring EP is a lot better.

I second this.

Zantera · « **Reply #103 on:** March 11, 2015, 05:15:26 PM »

FOABP is one of few SW albums that does not have a single weak track. Nil Recurring is probably their best EP too. It's a shame they followed their best "phase" up with The Incident.

ariich · « **Reply #104 on:** March 11, 2015, 05:24:11 PM »

I prefer The Incident to FOABP. Nil Recurring is so awesome though.

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