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Re: Steven Wilson v. To. The. Bone.
« Reply #3150 on: December 24, 2017, 10:14:00 AM »
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Re: Steven Wilson v. To. The. Bone.
« Reply #3151 on: December 24, 2017, 11:26:45 AM »
I do like the drums on People Who Eat Darkness!
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Re: Steven Wilson v. To. The. Bone.
« Reply #3152 on: December 24, 2017, 11:34:16 AM »
True, but he said he was going for a more simple approach on this album from a playing standpoint, so it was never going to be an album with playing as "flashy" as his prior two solo records.

I will say this: the drumming on this album is really lacking. Every time I listen to Nowhere Now, the drums irk me.  Maitland, Harrison and Minnemann could all play, but they could always make the simple stuff still sound great.  There are too many moments on this album where the drums lack "oomph," most notably in Nowhere Now.  The drumming in that song fails to drive the song as much as it should.

I actually think the drums are perfect for the song. Maybe it’s just me, but Nowhere Now reminds me of a Tom Petty track, namely in the guitar sound. The drums play for the song and have that bombastic ending (bombastic in the sense of the album). Then again, I’m just in love with the drum sound for the album, especially on Refuge during the solos.
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Re: Steven Wilson v. To. The. Bone.
« Reply #3153 on: December 28, 2017, 08:58:58 AM »
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« Reply #3154 on: December 29, 2017, 09:40:20 PM »
Nope, not yet but have been meaning to check it out.
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« Reply #3155 on: December 30, 2017, 11:45:39 AM »

I actually think the drums are perfect for the song. Maybe it’s just me, but Nowhere Now reminds me of a Tom Petty track, namely in the guitar sound. The drums play for the song and have that bombastic ending (bombastic in the sense of the album). Then again, I’m just in love with the drum sound for the album, especially on Refuge during the solos.

Listening to this the other day, I did think the drums in Refuge were really good, so I am with ya on that one. :tup :tup

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« Reply #3156 on: January 01, 2018, 04:05:14 AM »
I think the drumming on this album is great. Though it's mainly simple stuff, Craig makes it sound pretty awesome. And that's a very hard thing for a drummer imo. The masters in this field are of course Keith Carlock, Steve Gadd, Vinnie Colaiuta (and pretty much everyone involved with later Steely Dan records) but I think this approach fits the album well and is exactly what Steven intended. No huge fills, no polyrhythm stuff, just basic, awesome 4/4 that grooves AF.
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« Reply #3157 on: January 01, 2018, 07:41:50 AM »
I think the drumming on this album is great. Though it's mainly simple stuff, Craig makes it sound pretty awesome.

Craig Blundell only plays on Pariah, Song of I, People Who Eat Darkness and Song of Unborn. It's Jeremy Stacey on the other tracks.

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« Reply #3158 on: January 01, 2018, 07:47:19 AM »
Refuge is such an ode to Red Rain by Peter Gabriel.  Play them back to back.  Refuge is my favorite tune on the album.
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Re: Steven Wilson v. To. The. Bone.
« Reply #3159 on: January 01, 2018, 10:08:20 AM »
I think the drumming on this album is great. Though it's mainly simple stuff, Craig makes it sound pretty awesome.

Craig Blundell only plays on Pariah, Song of I, People Who Eat Darkness and Song of Unborn. It's Jeremy Stacey on the other tracks.

Damn this is embarrassing... Anyway, Craig AND JEREMY make it sound pretty awesome!

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Refuge is such an ode to Red Rain by Peter Gabriel.  Play them back to back.

And I think Pariah is an ode to Don't Give Up by Peter Gabriel! But you're totally right, the Red Rain comparison works just as well.
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Re: Steven Wilson v. To. The. Bone.
« Reply #3160 on: January 03, 2018, 03:19:46 AM »
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Moving into 2018, the big event is touring most of the year with my band. As well as playing music from To the Bone, I’m going to be dedicating some of the repertoire to two albums that are soon to receive high-profile reissues, which are In Absentia and Deadwing (starting first with remastered vinyl editions in February/March). There is also going to be a lot of new visual elements to the show – myself, Lasse Hoile, Jess Cope and lighting designer Martin have all been working hard to try to take everything to the next level in terms of spectacle.
Let the setlist speculation begin, right? :P I'm expecting at least Blackest Eyes to make an appearance, given that it's one of the biggest PT songs, but SW hasn't played it with his solo band yet. Out of the more obscure tracks, maybe Mellotron Scratch and the live premiere of Collapse the Light into Earth?

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« Reply #3161 on: January 03, 2018, 10:56:46 AM »
I thought both of these albums had already been reissued and remastered over and over again and released as cd, vinyl, 5.1 audio, bluray audio, etc. If the new reissue doesn't have any unreleased tracks or live tracks, I don't see the point.

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« Reply #3162 on: January 03, 2018, 11:03:02 AM »
I think they've only been reissued once, but never remastered, so I'm glad he's giving them the proper treatment now, and will release them on CD as well. Deadwing has So Called Friend and Half-Light included so that's nice. But yeah, more unreleased tracks and maybe demos would have been nice.

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« Reply #3163 on: January 03, 2018, 11:55:44 AM »
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Moving into 2018, the big event is touring most of the year with my band. As well as playing music from To the Bone, I’m going to be dedicating some of the repertoire to two albums that are soon to receive high-profile reissues, which are In Absentia and Deadwing (starting first with remastered vinyl editions in February/March). There is also going to be a lot of new visual elements to the show – myself, Lasse Hoile, Jess Cope and lighting designer Martin have all been working hard to try to take everything to the next level in terms of spectacle.
Let the setlist speculation begin, right? :P I'm expecting at least Blackest Eyes to make an appearance, given that it's one of the biggest PT songs, but SW hasn't played it with his solo band yet. Out of the more obscure tracks, maybe Mellotron Scratch and the live premiere of Collapse the Light into Earth?

I'm seriously hoping for Collapse The Light Into Earth or Lips Of Ashes. Both previously unplayed but my favorites on the album along with Heartattack In A Layby (which is likely to be played considering SW loves it). I'd really be disappointed if it's the "usual suspects" like Blackest Eyes, Trains, and Sound of Muzak.

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« Reply #3164 on: January 03, 2018, 01:41:16 PM »
How about Gravity Eyelids? Am I the only one who loves that song?

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« Reply #3165 on: January 03, 2018, 02:04:20 PM »
no :-)

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Re: Steven Wilson v. To. The. Bone.
« Reply #3166 on: January 03, 2018, 02:06:44 PM »
Collapse... and HAIALB are two of my favorite songs ever written, not just by SW. I'd pay just to see those live. Used to play Collapse all the freaking time in college in the practice rooms when I'd get sick of Beethoven :)
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Re: Steven Wilson v. To. The. Bone.
« Reply #3167 on: January 03, 2018, 02:09:12 PM »
How about Gravity Eyelids? Am I the only one who loves that song?

Nope.  I love that song.
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Re: Steven Wilson v. To. The. Bone.
« Reply #3168 on: January 03, 2018, 04:46:49 PM »
I think they've only been reissued once, but never remastered, so I'm glad he's giving them the proper treatment now, and will release them on CD as well. Deadwing has So Called Friend and Half-Light included so that's nice. But yeah, more unreleased tracks and maybe demos would have been nice.

I’m really bummed chloroform didn’t make it on the reissue.

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« Reply #3169 on: January 03, 2018, 04:51:05 PM »
I'm not a big fan of that song so I don't mind, but I'm really disappointed Drown With Me isn't included.

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Re: Steven Wilson v. To. The. Bone.
« Reply #3170 on: January 03, 2018, 04:53:22 PM »
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« Reply #3171 on: January 03, 2018, 05:30:03 PM »
Gawd, after seeing that announcement I am even more excited that I'm seeing him four times this year :caffeine:
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Re: Steven Wilson v. To. The. Bone.
« Reply #3172 on: January 04, 2018, 12:59:22 AM »
I thought both of these albums had already been reissued and remastered over and over again and released as cd, vinyl, 5.1 audio, bluray audio, etc. If the new reissue doesn't have any unreleased tracks or live tracks, I don't see the point.
Only vinyl reissues have been announced so far, but SW's post seems to hint at CD releases as well.
I'm seriously hoping for Collapse The Light Into Earth or Lips Of Ashes. Both previously unplayed but my favorites on the album along with Heartattack In A Layby (which is likely to be played considering SW loves it). I'd really be disappointed if it's the "usual suspects" like Blackest Eyes, Trains, and Sound of Muzak.
I'd love to hear Lips of Ashes, but I get the feeling that it's more of a studio song, with the hammered dulcimer, guitar and vocal layers and all. I could see Heartattack being played though.

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Re: Steven Wilson v. To. The. Bone.
« Reply #3173 on: January 04, 2018, 08:33:28 AM »
Gawd, after seeing that announcement I am even more excited that I'm seeing him four times this year :caffeine:

I'm definitely considering switching from the Philly show to the back to back NYC shows.
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Re: Steven Wilson v. To. The. Bone.
« Reply #3174 on: January 05, 2018, 06:08:36 AM »
Song of Unborn is my favorite new song of any artist in 2017.  Musically and lyrically fantastic. 

I have a question though.  Do any of you hear a slight slur in some of SW's pronunciations?  I've been a huge fan since the early PT days and have always wondered if anyone else heard it.  NOT criticizing - it actually adds a little to the "mystique" that is SW.  Just curious if others hear it.
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« Reply #3175 on: January 05, 2018, 06:57:04 AM »
I think Song of Unborn is wonderful. Sometimes I forget that it's there buried at the end of the album.

I don't hear any slurs, do you have an example?

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« Reply #3176 on: January 05, 2018, 07:01:15 AM »
I think Song of Unborn is wonderful. Sometimes I forget that it's there buried at the end of the album.

I don't hear any slurs, do you have an example?

It's very subtle, I hear it on some "S"'s and moreso on "L"'s.
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Re: Steven Wilson v. To. The. Bone.
« Reply #3177 on: January 05, 2018, 11:02:09 AM »
I think Song of Unborn is wonderful. Sometimes I forget that it's there buried at the end of the album.

I don't hear any slurs, do you have an example?

It's very subtle, I hear it on some "S"'s and moreso on "L"'s.

Since English is not my first language, I don't quite understand the word "slur". Can you explain what you mean?

BTW, Song Of Unborn is indeed fantastic. Definitely one of my 3 favs on To The Bone and a perfect way to end the album.
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Re: Steven Wilson v. To. The. Bone.
« Reply #3178 on: January 05, 2018, 11:09:53 AM »
I think Song of Unborn is wonderful. Sometimes I forget that it's there buried at the end of the album.

I don't hear any slurs, do you have an example?

It's very subtle, I hear it on some "S"'s and moreso on "L"'s.



Since English is not my first language, I don't quite understand the word "slur". Can you explain what you mean?

BTW, Song Of Unborn is indeed fantastic. Definitely one of my 3 favs on To The Bone and a perfect way to end the album.

It's like his lips are improperly forming the way an S or L would normally be spoken.  Again, not a big deal I was just curious is others ever noticed.
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Re: Steven Wilson v. To. The. Bone.
« Reply #3179 on: January 05, 2018, 11:15:07 AM »
Yeah, I've noticed it too.

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Re: Steven Wilson v. To. The. Bone.
« Reply #3180 on: January 10, 2018, 09:35:15 AM »
I really want to gauge how much interest there would be for taking part in a new SW tournament. We'd start with a qualifying tournament involving most of the non-album tracks (bonus tracks, 4½ EP, original tracks from Cover Version), plus the interlude tracks from the main albums (songs like First Regret and Raider Prelude). I kinda want this to be done as quickly as possible, so it'll probably be a simple "vote for your favourites", and we'll cull so many in one go. We'll probably need subsequent rounds, but certainly not 35 rounds. Anyway, five of these qualifiers will join the 45 songs in the main tournament, which will involve a round-robin group stage, then a 16-song knockout tournament.

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« Reply #3181 on: January 10, 2018, 09:17:19 PM »
I'd participate, but feel free to revive my old Survivor or start something new :P

Also, has anybody been listening to the latest Porcupine Tree/Blackfield/No-Man Remasters? I think Steven has massively improved his mastering skills in the last 5 years or so, and it's now making his backlog way more dynamic and clear. Was listening to the new 2 CD edition of No-Man's Returning Jesus and it sounds fantastic. The first two Blackfield and the early PT albums got an amazing treatment as well. Really looking forward to the In Absentia and Deadwing ones  :metal

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« Reply #3182 on: January 11, 2018, 12:45:53 AM »
I don't want to run it as a Survivor. I want it to be where we vote for the songs we like more rather than those we like least. Also, there will be some elements of chance involved, as the groups and each round of the knockout stage will be determined by a random draw.

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« Reply #3183 on: January 11, 2018, 01:38:41 AM »
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Moving into 2018, the big event is touring most of the year with my band. As well as playing music from To the Bone, I’m going to be dedicating some of the repertoire to two albums that are soon to receive high-profile reissues, which are In Absentia and Deadwing (starting first with remastered vinyl editions in February/March). There is also going to be a lot of new visual elements to the show – myself, Lasse Hoile, Jess Cope and lighting designer Martin have all been working hard to try to take everything to the next level in terms of spectacle.
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Re: Steven Wilson v. To. The. Bone.
« Reply #3184 on: January 11, 2018, 05:42:58 AM »
Oh man Mellotron Scratch would be awesome. That was the first PT song I heard.