Author Topic: Devin Townsend v. Offer Your Posts  (Read 56291 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline PROGdrummer

  • Posts: 684
  • Gender: Male
  • Metal head and Progressive soul
Re: Devin Townsend v. Coffee Loving Sock Puppet 2
« Reply #105 on: November 10, 2014, 10:11:10 AM »
I think I've figured out why I'm disappointed by Sky Blue after many listens.

I think the choruses to most of the songs are great and really catchy.  But the verses are not melodic.  They have these weird non-standard melodic "lines" if you can even call them that.  Take the second verse of the title track ("Do what you want to....").  Ugh, that is just so painful to listen to.  That one's not even a melody because it's just sitting on the same note over and over.  (I love the chorus to that song though.)  But even the better songs on the disc, it just feels like Devin didn't take the time to construct good verses.  So I can't really sit down and enjoy any of the songs all the way through because it's painful to get through the verses.

Can't say I really agree with you there. Yeah, the choruses are usually a lot more melodic than the verses, but that doesn't mean there aren't some great verses on the album (Midnight Sun, Rain City, the previously mentioned Sky Blue...)

The only song where the vocal melodies really bother me is A New Reign, which is why that song is one of my least favorites on the album. I don't know, they just seem too loose and awkwardly phrased, with no special melody to them.

The wierd thing about A New Reign is that its almost like there is no verse.
The structure is like: Intro-PreChorus-Chorus-PreChorus-Chorus-Intro Revisited-Bridge-Intro Melody again-Chorus/End.

Like, where are the verses? :lol
Even so, its a very powerful song, lyrically and musically, and my personal favorite on Z2.
The Dream Theater train has been refueled and is ready for another journey. All passengers please take your seats and enjoy the ride. We will be serving Nuggetz for dinner.

Offline Buddyhunter1

  • Professional Mellotron Spotter
  • Posts: 1911
  • Gender: Male
  • Trains 'n' Hoes
Re: Devin Townsend v. Coffee Loving Sock Puppet 2
« Reply #106 on: November 10, 2014, 12:04:31 PM »
The wierd thing about A New Reign is that its almost like there is no verse.
The structure is like: Intro-PreChorus-Chorus-PreChorus-Chorus-Intro Revisited-Bridge-Intro Melody again-Chorus/End.

Like, where are the verses? :lol
Even so, its a very powerful song, lyrically and musically, and my personal favorite on Z2.

Yeah, I noticed that too. :lol I don't know, I just don't like the vocals on that song much, and since they're focused on so much it hurts the track pretty badly for me.
...in my opinion

Offline TioJorge

  • Constantly Contorting
  • Posts: 6687
  • Gender: Male
  • Ashes to ashes, fun to funky.
Re: Devin Townsend v. Coffee Loving Sock Puppet 2
« Reply #107 on: November 10, 2014, 12:35:59 PM »
I thought the same at first, it's an odd sounding song given the structure. I really love it now and it's top-tier for me, to be sure. I especially love the lines of "Yet here we are again" (Or just "Yet here we are", at the end of the song). I'm finding that this record, for me, is much less of a 'chore' (for a horrible lack of words) to get through than other albums of his. It's very accessible, I'd say more so than even Addicted! or Epicloud (at least Sky Blue, not so much for Dark Matters). That said, I still find a considerable amount of depth to the lyrics and the music itself without it being overwhelming. Then again, I'm apparently much more open to Devy's sound and production than most, so the whole 'wall of sound' or 'dominating choir' doesn't affect me in the slightest and I simply view it as part of the album's personality, so for me that takes away a lot of the problems many people have right there.

I think I'm at a point where it'll stick, and it's still at the same 'not the best Devy album, but still awesomely awesome'.

DTP says "WOW, LOOK AT THAT GREAT POST"

Offline PROGdrummer

  • Posts: 684
  • Gender: Male
  • Metal head and Progressive soul
Re: Devin Townsend v. Coffee Loving Sock Puppet 2
« Reply #108 on: November 10, 2014, 01:38:17 PM »
The only thing about A New Reign that I dont get is the end, during the ambience when he says "peppermint gum, peppermint gum, peppermint gum, all-brown flag".
The Dream Theater train has been refueled and is ready for another journey. All passengers please take your seats and enjoy the ride. We will be serving Nuggetz for dinner.

Offline Ben_Jamin

  • Posts: 7305
  • Gender: Male
  • Do a nice one for grandma
Re: Devin Townsend v. Coffee Loving Sock Puppet 2
« Reply #109 on: November 10, 2014, 03:52:47 PM »
I hope he plays Before We Die.
I don't know how they can be so proud of winning with them odds. - Little Big Man

I Love You...Poppin Fresh

Offline wolfking

  • Posts: 24286
  • Gender: Male
Re: Devin Townsend v. Coffee Loving Sock Puppet 2
« Reply #110 on: November 10, 2014, 07:23:55 PM »
As a casual Devin fan, I'm really liking Sky Blue.  The title track is amazing.

Offline Parama

  • Roulette Bandit
  • Posts: 11334
  • EP Enthusiast
Re: Devin Townsend v. Coffee Loving Sock Puppet 2
« Reply #111 on: November 12, 2014, 11:29:11 PM »
Also I got Casualties of Cool recently and I'd say I'm enjoying it more than Z2 as of now.
Flight and The Bridge are both amazing, I enjoy practically every song though. Expected to like it but didn't expect to like it quite this much, haha.

Offline Lucien

  • composer
  • Posts: 4506
  • Gender: Male
    • my music
Re: Devin Townsend v. Coffee Loving Sock Puppet 2
« Reply #112 on: November 12, 2014, 11:50:18 PM »
WHEEEEEREEE IS MY POOZER?
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves."

Offline TioJorge

  • Constantly Contorting
  • Posts: 6687
  • Gender: Male
  • Ashes to ashes, fun to funky.
Re: Devin Townsend v. Coffee Loving Sock Puppet 2
« Reply #113 on: November 12, 2014, 11:50:51 PM »
WHY AM I TALKING TO MYSELF!?!?

DTP says "WOW, LOOK AT THAT GREAT POST"

Offline Onno

  • Well, it's just entertainment, folks.
  • Posts: 4346
  • Gender: Male
  • Run away, just run away from here...
Re: Devin Townsend v. Coffee Loving Sock Puppet 2
« Reply #114 on: November 13, 2014, 01:16:28 AM »
WHY AM I TALKING TO MYSELF!?!?
That was one of the best dialogue moments on DM  :rollin

Offline seasonsinthesky

  • roo)))m noise
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 1451
  • Gender: Male
    • 140 characters
Re: Devin Townsend v. Coffee Loving Sock Puppet 2
« Reply #115 on: November 13, 2014, 09:32:06 AM »
WHY AM I TALKING TO MYSELF!?!?
That was one of the best dialogue moments on DM  :rollin

that's actually one of the ones i found really forced, like most of the narrator's attempts at comedy (there aren't many, of course, and that's great).

my highlight will forever be Ziltoid in TTW: "oh, so lame!" - then hilariously and horribly singing the song they knew as kids!

Offline Ultimetalhead

  • The Mighty Masturbator
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 7027
  • Gender: Male
  • .ay rof dab s'ti dna...
Re: Devin Townsend v. Coffee Loving Sock Puppet 2
« Reply #116 on: November 13, 2014, 10:36:34 AM »
I fucking love Silent Militia. That is all.
Orion....that's the one with a bunch of power chords and boringly harsh vocals, isn't it?
LOOK AT THIS AWESOME SHIT AHHHHHH

Offline Buddyhunter1

  • Professional Mellotron Spotter
  • Posts: 1911
  • Gender: Male
  • Trains 'n' Hoes
Re: Devin Townsend v. Coffee Loving Sock Puppet 2
« Reply #117 on: November 13, 2014, 10:40:08 AM »
WHY AM I TALKING TO MYSELF!?!?
That was one of the best dialogue moments on DM  :rollin

I think it's made slightly funnier by the fact that it's not even written in the lyric booklet. Maybe it's something the narrator ad-libbed on the spot. :lol
...in my opinion

Offline mikemangioy

  • Taster of cheese, preacher of prog
  • Posts: 1357
  • Gender: Male
  • *insert ASOIAF quote here*
Re: Devin Townsend v. Coffee Loving Sock Puppet 2
« Reply #118 on: November 13, 2014, 01:52:25 PM »
My highlights are

"mememememememe me! *fart"

"you see (with vibrato) you shall follow, FOR I'M YOUR QUEEN" (Dominique is incredibly awesome, and incredibly good looking too.)

"My brothaaa"

and

"Do you mind if I use 'bathroom' for a moment"
Because Mike is better than Mike

Offline TioJorge

  • Constantly Contorting
  • Posts: 6687
  • Gender: Male
  • Ashes to ashes, fun to funky.
Re: Devin Townsend v. Coffee Loving Sock Puppet 2
« Reply #119 on: November 13, 2014, 01:55:30 PM »
Perfect. All my favorites as well, especially the first two. The "you SEEEE" part kind of gives me a chubby every time. Such a sexy voice that woman has.


She can be my queen any day. *bvvrrt*

DTP says "WOW, LOOK AT THAT GREAT POST"

Offline Metropolaris

  • World's Worst the Username
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 1064
  • Gender: Male
  • No but seriously, call me Jacob.
Re: Devin Townsend v. Coffee Loving Sock Puppet 2
« Reply #120 on: November 13, 2014, 04:59:30 PM »
Mark Cimino(Second guitarist on Addicted) voices the Poozers.

Poozah!
[Signature Only Viewable to DreamTheaterForums.org® Premium Users]

Offline ZKX-2099

  • Posts: 2852
  • Gender: Male
  • The Drifting Drifter
Re: Devin Townsend v. Coffee Loving Sock Puppet 2
« Reply #121 on: November 14, 2014, 11:53:08 AM »
Has anybody here commented on the top notch drum work by RVP in Z2, yet?

Offline seasonsinthesky

  • roo)))m noise
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 1451
  • Gender: Male
    • 140 characters
Re: Devin Townsend v. Coffee Loving Sock Puppet 2
« Reply #122 on: November 15, 2014, 07:50:15 AM »
i would comment on RVP's drumming if i could make out any of his cymbal work (i guess that's headphones-only)!

Offline PROGdrummer

  • Posts: 684
  • Gender: Male
  • Metal head and Progressive soul
Re: Devin Townsend v. Coffee Loving Sock Puppet 2
« Reply #123 on: November 15, 2014, 08:57:04 AM »
I would comment on it, but I havent had the time to write up an elaborate in-depth fangasm explanation on just how awesome RVP's drumming is. Definite highlight for drums would be Zildoidian Empire and Earth. And also Z2 has some awesome parts. Sick fills all over.
The Dream Theater train has been refueled and is ready for another journey. All passengers please take your seats and enjoy the ride. We will be serving Nuggetz for dinner.

Offline me7

  • Posts: 890
  • Disciple of the Cockroach
Re: Devin Townsend v. Coffee Loving Sock Puppet 2
« Reply #124 on: November 15, 2014, 10:56:04 AM »
i would comment on RVP's drumming if i could make out any of his cymbal work (i guess that's headphones-only)!

You could try the leaked promo version, it's an "unfinished" master with less dynamics compression. Sounds way better than the CD IMO.

Offline Scorpion

  • Unreal Heir
  • DTF.org Member
  • *
  • Posts: 9767
  • Gender: Male
  • Ragnarök around the Clöck!
Re: Devin Townsend v. Coffee Loving Sock Puppet 2
« Reply #125 on: November 16, 2014, 12:49:54 PM »
So yeah, Sky Blue is definitely in the top half of Devin's discog - it keeps improving with every listen. The only songs that I'm still not really sold on are The Ones Who Love (though it does work as an outro, just not as an individual song, but then I suppose it's not supposed to?) and Rain City.

Dark Matters, however, has left me cold. March of the Poozers is awesome, Deathray and War Princess are great, the rest I can take or leave. It's better than the original Ziltoid, but not by much, and the good songs on Ziltoid absolutely destroy everything on this album that isn't March of the Poozers.

Also, Justin, can we look forward to another write-up in the Devin discography thread?
scorpion is my favorite deathcore lobster
Hey, the length is fine :azn: Thanks!

Offline PixelDream

  • Posts: 2391
  • Gender: Male
  • Maestro
Re: Devin Townsend v. Coffee Loving Sock Puppet 2
« Reply #126 on: November 19, 2014, 12:18:01 PM »
Listened to Z2 a bunch of times.

It's fun Pop music (Sky Blue), but I just don't care anymore for that overproduced, safe production. Nothing stands out.. it's all just one big gooey mess to my ears.

Addicted somehow managed to have a smashing sound, even with its heavy compressed sound.

As for Dark Matters.. I'll hold off on judgement. Too much going on.
OK what's next, after the sex, what do we do now?

Offline Parama

  • Roulette Bandit
  • Posts: 11334
  • EP Enthusiast
Re: Devin Townsend v. Coffee Loving Sock Puppet 2
« Reply #127 on: November 19, 2014, 01:37:50 PM »
I fucking love Silent Militia. That is all.
Absolutely, best song on either disc by a good margin.

Offline Ultimetalhead

  • The Mighty Masturbator
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 7027
  • Gender: Male
  • .ay rof dab s'ti dna...
Re: Devin Townsend v. Coffee Loving Sock Puppet 2
« Reply #128 on: November 19, 2014, 04:48:28 PM »
Also, Justin, can we look forward to another write-up in the Devin discography thread?
100% yes. I wouldn't expect anything until the end of this semester though. School is fucking me with even less lube than normal at the moment.
Orion....that's the one with a bunch of power chords and boringly harsh vocals, isn't it?
LOOK AT THIS AWESOME SHIT AHHHHHH

Offline KevShmev

  • EZBoard Elder
  • *****
  • Posts: 25076
  • Gender: Male
Re: Devin Townsend v. Coffee Loving Sock Puppet 2
« Reply #129 on: November 22, 2014, 08:51:26 AM »
I'm loving Sky Blue so far.  Just one great song after another.  :hefdaddy :hefdaddy

I'll give Dark Matters more attention eventually, but given that they are basically two separate studio albums, trying to get into both at once is not something I am gonna do, especially since I have other new stuff I am digging and not as much music listening time as I normally do lately.

Offline Deathless

  • Posts: 159
Re: Devin Townsend v. Coffee Loving Sock Puppet 2
« Reply #130 on: November 23, 2014, 09:55:11 PM »
Some live footage of "Midnight Sun" and "Rejoice" being played live for the first time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWdMkDM5Okw#t=173

 :metal

Offline Basekick

  • Posts: 365
Re: Devin Townsend v. Coffee Loving Sock Puppet 2
« Reply #131 on: November 24, 2014, 08:55:16 AM »
Some live footage of "Midnight Sun" and "Rejoice" being played live for the first time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWdMkDM5Okw#t=173

 :metal

Thanks for this!  Great to see them played live.
"10,000 hours of practice - not talent - creates virtuosos."

"Sometimes you want to give up the guitar, you'll hate the guitar. But if you stick with it, you're gonna be rewarded."  - Jimi Hendrix

Offline DarkLord_Lalinc

  • pr0nman extraordinaire
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 11237
  • Gender: Male
  • Hostages love me
Re: Devin Townsend v. Coffee Loving Sock Puppet 2
« Reply #132 on: November 24, 2014, 08:59:33 AM »
War Princess just clicked with me. Such a powerful song.

The female vocals are ridiculous.
Quote from: TioJorge
MAN FUCK YOU KUJA.
Quote from: hefdaddy42
The Darklord is amazing

Offline Parama

  • Roulette Bandit
  • Posts: 11334
  • EP Enthusiast
Re: Devin Townsend v. Coffee Loving Sock Puppet 2
« Reply #133 on: November 25, 2014, 02:11:54 PM »
right now Moon is ruling my life, I just wish it had a proper ending though 'cause Pier kind of meanders

Offline 73109

  • DTF.org Member
  • *
  • Posts: 4957
  • Gender: Male
Re: Devin Townsend v. Coffee Loving Sock Puppet 2
« Reply #134 on: November 26, 2014, 12:09:25 AM »
Seeing him tomorrow. Super psyched.

I have a quick question.

Unfortunately, because of being busy at school, I haven't had a ton of time to listen to the new album and was wondering about a difference between the leak and the actual version.

I vaguely remember the leak having some sort of preface that discussed how Ziltoid—who was apparently a figment of the imagination of a coffee house worker—was somehow real/alive/whatever. The new version does not have that. Was I dreaming? Am I missing something? 

Offline Metropolaris

  • World's Worst the Username
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 1064
  • Gender: Male
  • No but seriously, call me Jacob.
Re: Devin Townsend v. Coffee Loving Sock Puppet 2
« Reply #135 on: November 26, 2014, 12:13:09 AM »
I went back and checked, and you're right. It's around the 3 minute mark in the opening track on the leaked version, but not on the official version.
[Signature Only Viewable to DreamTheaterForums.org® Premium Users]

Offline 73109

  • DTF.org Member
  • *
  • Posts: 4957
  • Gender: Male
Re: Devin Townsend v. Coffee Loving Sock Puppet 2
« Reply #136 on: November 26, 2014, 12:17:04 AM »
What does it say? I don't have access to the leak right now. Is it too long to type up?

Offline TioJorge

  • Constantly Contorting
  • Posts: 6687
  • Gender: Male
  • Ashes to ashes, fun to funky.
Re: Devin Townsend v. Coffee Loving Sock Puppet 2
« Reply #137 on: November 26, 2014, 12:23:22 AM »
Hrm? Damn, maybe I got a 'pre-final' leak (mine even has the Devy-centric Fallout so I know it's not the final version, it also has the different mastering to the final version). I've got both the leak and the official digipak but my leak doesn't have anything about that on Z2. Now, on From Sleep Awake, on both of my versions, coincidentally around 2:50-ish the narrator mentions that there's a revelation that Ziltoid is from another planet, but nothing about a 'dream from a coffee house worker' or anything of the sort on either version. Anyone care to be more specific and give precise times and/or a direct quote? This is intriguing.

DTP says "WOW, LOOK AT THAT GREAT POST"

Offline Metropolaris

  • World's Worst the Username
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 1064
  • Gender: Male
  • No but seriously, call me Jacob.
Re: Devin Townsend v. Coffee Loving Sock Puppet 2
« Reply #138 on: November 26, 2014, 12:23:51 AM »
It says:

"Z2. Zed Squared. Episode 2. When we last met Ziltoid, it was thought he was merely a figment of our fertile imaginations. As it turns out, he is VERY real. Welcome."
[Signature Only Viewable to DreamTheaterForums.org® Premium Users]

Offline 73109

  • DTF.org Member
  • *
  • Posts: 4957
  • Gender: Male
Re: Devin Townsend v. Coffee Loving Sock Puppet 2
« Reply #139 on: November 26, 2014, 12:26:06 AM »
Oh, that's it? That's boring. I thought it was an actual describing how it was the case. I only listened to the leak once and I was close to falling asleep because I'd gotten like no sleep the night before.