Author Topic: Haken v. new single Nightingale (April 26) (Read 439316 times)

Nick · « **Reply #2695 on:** August 14, 2018, 12:29:38 PM »

Don't know if it effects anyone here, but a New Orleans date was added Nov. 12.

RoeDent · « **Reply #2696 on:** August 14, 2018, 02:05:17 PM »

So Page 1 of this thread has a link to the first Haken thread, so I'm currently reading through the first pages of that, back before and around the release of Aquarius in 2010. Remarkable how far Haken have come in the years since then.

ariich · « **Reply #2697 on:** August 14, 2018, 02:11:36 PM »

Quote from: RoeDent on August 14, 2018, 02:05:17 PM

So Page 1 of this thread has a link to the first Haken thread, so I'm currently reading through the first pages of that, back before and around the release of Aquarius in 2010. Remarkable how far Haken have come in the years since then.

Awesome. Just goes to show how much they've accomplished so quickly, when we've had post-crash DTF threads since before their first album came out.

Fritzinger · « **Reply #2698 on:** August 17, 2018, 05:45:42 AM »

HAKEN'S VECTOR is now available for pre-order!

I also found the track lengths on the insideout shop website.

Not sure if you guys want it spoiled, so here's a little warning: Warning.

Quote

01. Clear (01:52)
02. The Good Doctor (03:55)
03. Puzzle Box (07:42)
04. Veil (12:35)
05. Nil By Mouth (06:51)
06. Host (06:45)
07. A Cell Divides (04:57)
08. Verbal Summator (01:02)

So it seems, that this will be a very short album, not longer than 45mins if I counted correctly. I wonder why they would press it on 2 LPs though.

Train of Naught · « **Reply #2699 on:** August 17, 2018, 05:49:27 AM »

A lot of big prog bands seem to be doing this. And honestly I've also really been into shorter albums lately. TesseracT, Parius and Between the Buried and Me if you consider both sides as separate all put out some of the best albums of the year, with relatively short releases.

I know very few albums over an hour that have really wow'd me to be honest. Obviously Odyssey to the West doesn't count because that album is perfect.

Fritzinger · « **Reply #2700 on:** August 17, 2018, 05:52:43 AM »

Maybe they'll master it in 45 rpm speed, like To The Bone?

The Letter M · « **Reply #2701 on:** August 17, 2018, 05:58:14 AM »

https://burningshed.com/store/InsideOutMusic

Oddly enough, the track listings given on BurningShed are different, and give the layout of the vinyl sides.

According to the above listing, its 45:39, but looking at the lists on BurningShed, the album is 45:19 and lists only 7 tracks.

Either way, gonna pre-order the 2cd set!

-Marc.

ariich · « **Reply #2702 on:** August 17, 2018, 06:07:27 AM »

What the! Haken added an extra track!

ariich · « **Reply #2703 on:** August 17, 2018, 06:15:52 AM »

Quote from: Fritzinger on August 17, 2018, 05:45:42 AM

I wonder why they would press it on 2 LPs though.

Well, an LP only holds around 45 mins, so even if it would theoretically fit on one, you don't really want a break in the middle of a song!

The Letter M · « **Reply #2704 on:** August 17, 2018, 06:24:45 AM »

Quote from: ariich on August 17, 2018, 06:07:27 AM

What the! Haken added an extra track!

So wait...which website has the correct listing? InsideOut or BurningShed?

Also, here is the link for anyone looking to order the other colored vinyl sets and/or getting a tshirt- https://www.omerch.eu/shop/haken/

-Marc.

ariich · « **Reply #2705 on:** August 17, 2018, 06:51:02 AM »

I don't know for certain. My guess would be InsideOut. There was only ever 7 tracks before (including the original press release) so I can't imagine where else IO would have got an eighth track name and length!

Elite · « **Reply #2706 on:** August 17, 2018, 07:15:48 AM »

The most difficult thing about pre-ordering this album is deciding which colour vinyl I'd like to have.

Nekov · « **Reply #2707 on:** August 17, 2018, 07:56:29 AM »

Quote from: ariich on August 17, 2018, 06:51:02 AM

I don't know for certain. My guess would be InsideOut. There was only ever 7 tracks before (including the original press release) so I can't imagine where else IO would have got an eighth track name and length!

Worst insider ever

gzarruk · « **Reply #2708 on:** August 17, 2018, 10:45:26 AM »

Quote from: ariich on August 17, 2018, 06:51:02 AM

I don't know for certain. My guess would be InsideOut. There was only ever 7 tracks before (including the original press release) so I can't imagine where else IO would have got an eighth track name and length!

Maybe a hidden track?

Destiny Of Chaos · « **Reply #2709 on:** August 17, 2018, 10:49:22 AM »

Looks like an outro track to me.

ariich · « **Reply #2710 on:** August 17, 2018, 10:54:51 AM »

Quote from: Nekov on August 17, 2018, 07:56:29 AM

Quote from: ariich on August 17, 2018, 06:51:02 AM
I don't know for certain. My guess would be InsideOut. There was only ever 7 tracks before (including the original press release) so I can't imagine where else IO would have got an eighth track name and length!

Worst wannabe insider ever

fixed

ariich · « **Reply #2711 on:** August 17, 2018, 10:55:30 AM »

Quote from: Destiny Of Chaos on August 17, 2018, 10:49:22 AM

Looks like an outro track to me.

Yeah looks like it.

Elite · « **Reply #2712 on:** August 17, 2018, 01:49:13 PM »

So, do we think this extra track is on all versions, or just on the InsideOut releases?

Enigmachine · « **Reply #2713 on:** August 17, 2018, 02:15:56 PM »

Interesting how Haken albums have got progressively shorter over time.

ariich · « **Reply #2714 on:** August 17, 2018, 02:18:26 PM »

Quote from: Elite on August 17, 2018, 01:49:13 PM

So, do we think this extra track is on all versions, or just on the InsideOut releases?

It's surely on all versions. If it was a late addition then other places just might not have got the updated information. The track times on the IO page for 1-7 are definitely accurate whereas the Burning Shed ones are too long.

jammindude · « **Reply #2715 on:** August 17, 2018, 04:51:47 PM »

Where are you guys seeing an 8th track?

The Letter M · « **Reply #2716 on:** August 17, 2018, 04:58:49 PM »

Quote from: jammindude on August 17, 2018, 04:51:47 PM

Where are you guys seeing an 8th track?

Quote from: Fritzinger on August 17, 2018, 05:45:42 AM

Quote

01. Clear (01:52)
02. The Good Doctor (03:55)
03. Puzzle Box (07:42)
04. Veil (12:35)
05. Nil By Mouth (06:51)
06. Host (06:45)
07. A Cell Divides (04:57)
08. Verbal Summator (01:02)

And this is the tracklist elsewhere:
1 Clear 1:57
2 The Good Doctor 3:58
3 Puzzle Box 7:45
4 Veil 12:41
5 Nil By Mouth 7:11
6 Host 6:47
7 A Cell Divides 5:00

Looking at it side-by-side with the tracklist on BurningShed, it looks like the first seven tracks are all shorter by 2-6 seconds each, with the exception of "Nil By Mouth", which is 20 seconds shorter. Over-all, it's a total of 42 seconds shorter than the original 7-track listing, but it also adds 1:02 with the 8th track, so an over-all net-gain of 20 seconds.

It's been my experience that often-times, the track times posted in press releases and website stores are different than what's on the packaging and even the actual disc track lengths, so I guess we won't know for sure until a final physical product is in our hands!

-Marc.

cramx3 · « **Reply #2717 on:** August 17, 2018, 06:26:09 PM »

I'm not really sure it makes a difference to me, an extra minute of outro music isn't changing things a whole lot for me (I'm already excited but this doesn't move the needle). Now, if we find out there's a legit hidden track or something else, I am interested in knowing more about it.

DTA · « **Reply #2718 on:** August 18, 2018, 05:28:52 AM »

I'm sure the music will be awesome, but I hate to say that the track times leave me underwhelmed. I realize how stupid that sounds, but I guess I'm just used to a bit more material from these guys. Short albums are usually pretty great, but I absorb the material so quickly that I usually only listen to it a dozen times before I move onto something else. I wonder if they're saving some tracks for an EP release down the line.

Fritzinger · « **Reply #2719 on:** August 20, 2018, 04:21:51 AM »

Okay I ordered the lilac vinyl and my friend the petrol green vinyl. Can't wait for this album!

me7 · « **Reply #2720 on:** August 20, 2018, 05:22:59 AM »

Tracklist on InsideOut shop has been changed. The eight track is gone.

ariich · « **Reply #2721 on:** August 20, 2018, 06:25:59 AM »

Quote from: me7 on August 20, 2018, 05:22:59 AM

Tracklist on InsideOut shop has been changed. The eight track is gone.

Controversial!

Nick · « **Reply #2722 on:** August 20, 2018, 08:57:17 AM »

Quote from: ariich on August 20, 2018, 06:25:59 AM

Quote from: me7 on August 20, 2018, 05:22:59 AM
Tracklist on InsideOut shop has been changed. The eight track is gone.
Controversial!

Coverup.exe.

King Postwhore · « **Reply #2723 on:** August 20, 2018, 09:10:34 AM »

Quote from: Nick on August 20, 2018, 08:57:17 AM

Quote from: ariich on August 20, 2018, 06:25:59 AM
Quote from: me7 on August 20, 2018, 05:22:59 AM
Tracklist on InsideOut shop has been changed. The eight track is gone.
Controversial!

Coverup.exe.

I blame Toxicity.

axeman90210 · « **Reply #2724 on:** August 20, 2018, 10:09:25 AM »

Quote from: kingshmegland on August 20, 2018, 09:10:34 AM

Quote from: Nick on August 20, 2018, 08:57:17 AM
Quote from: ariich on August 20, 2018, 06:25:59 AM
Quote from: me7 on August 20, 2018, 05:22:59 AM
Tracklist on InsideOut shop has been changed. The eight track is gone.
Controversial!

Coverup.exe.

I blame Toxicity.

And after they turned their backs on Affinity for it...

El Barto · « **Reply #2725 on:** August 20, 2018, 10:26:44 AM »

Don't know if this has been brought up yet, but they seem to me to be playing 29 gigs with only 4 nights off on this tour. How do people think Jennings is going to sound at the end of that 9 show stretch in the middle? I'm trying to decide where to see them and that's something I figure I should take into consideration. From what I've seen on YT the dude's already kind of iffy live. I'm thinking it'd be best to try and line things up in his favor.

gzarruk · « **Reply #2726 on:** August 20, 2018, 10:27:56 AM »

Looks like a hidden (not so hidden anymore

) track to me

Train of Naught · « **Reply #2727 on:** August 20, 2018, 10:38:02 AM »

Quote from: El Barto on August 20, 2018, 10:26:44 AM

From what I've seen on YT the dude's already kind of iffy live. I'm thinking it'd be best to try and line things up in his favor.

Really? Maybe I got lucky, when I saw them Ross was near perfect! One of the best live singers I've experienced to this day

cramx3 · « **Reply #2728 on:** August 20, 2018, 10:51:30 AM »

Quote from: Train of Naught on August 20, 2018, 10:38:02 AM

Quote from: El Barto on August 20, 2018, 10:26:44 AM
From what I've seen on YT the dude's already kind of iffy live. I'm thinking it'd be best to try and line things up in his favor.
Really? Maybe I got lucky, when I saw them Ross was near perfect! One of the best live singers I've experienced to this day

I found Ross to be extremely good live both times I've seen them, but even the best are going to wear out after 9 nights singing. I guess doing maybe a shorter set would help though.

King Postwhore · « **Reply #2729 on:** August 20, 2018, 10:53:09 AM »

Quote from: El Barto on August 20, 2018, 10:26:44 AM

Don't know if this has been brought up yet, but they seem to me to be playing 29 gigs with only 4 nights off on this tour. How do people think Jennings is going to sound at the end of that 9 show stretch in the middle? I'm trying to decide where to see them and that's something I figure I should take into consideration. From what I've seen on YT the dude's already kind of iffy live. I'm thinking it'd be best to try and line things up in his favor.

Ross is never going to blow you away but the 4 times I've seen him, I've loved the show and he was great.

News: Video of online chat between fans and members of Dream Theater: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx8cLlXnHpA&feature=youtu.be (*no chickens were harmed during the filming of this chat)

Author Topic: Haken v. new single Nightingale (April 26) (Read 439316 times)