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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2135 on: August 19, 2017, 02:49:02 AM »
To be fair, the backing vocals were never Haken's strongest asset when playing live.
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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2136 on: August 19, 2017, 08:15:22 AM »
That falsetto is fucking painful to listen to.

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2137 on: August 19, 2017, 09:24:36 AM »
On the backing vocals, I'm not going to defend them, as they are not exactly great in this, but I will say I've seen Haken a lot and they are never mixed this high in the audience mix. Typically they are quite a bit more buried and just adding the extra layer, not out front like that.

Edit: Also worth noting it's quite difficult to play drums and deliver those type of vocals.
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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2138 on: August 19, 2017, 09:39:49 AM »
I respect them for trying.

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2139 on: August 19, 2017, 01:57:50 PM »
I just wonder why Ray is singing falsetto at all, he could sing other melody in his own register, could sound better at least  :\
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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2140 on: August 19, 2017, 03:06:06 PM »
I just wonder why Ray is singing falsetto at all, he could sing other melody in his own register, could sound better at least  :\
I think it might be Conner rather than Ray. Ray normally sings in a normal register. He's actually got a pretty good tenor voice.

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2141 on: August 20, 2017, 10:09:57 AM »
I just wonder why Ray is singing falsetto at all, he could sing other melody in his own register, could sound better at least  :\
I think it might be Conner rather than Ray. Ray normally sings in a normal register. He's actually got a pretty good tenor voice.

Oh really? I was almost 100% sure I saw only Ray sang to the mic in the chorus but I could be wrong. Interesting that they don't use backing track like many bands nowadays. They don't use click?
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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2142 on: August 20, 2017, 11:09:31 AM »
I just wonder why Ray is singing falsetto at all, he could sing other melody in his own register, could sound better at least  :\
I think it might be Conner rather than Ray. Ray normally sings in a normal register. He's actually got a pretty good tenor voice.

Oh really? I was almost 100% sure I saw only Ray sang to the mic in the chorus but I could be wrong. Interesting that they don't use backing track like many bands nowadays. They don't use click?

They are too closely associated with Portnoy to use a click.
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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2143 on: August 20, 2017, 11:46:16 AM »
As a Haken-noob, to me there is definitely a moment where the lead singer sings in a not-so-good falsetto, since it is the only vocal line that seems to sync up with what he is doing on stage.

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2144 on: August 20, 2017, 09:31:56 PM »
I just wonder why Ray is singing falsetto at all, he could sing other melody in his own register, could sound better at least  :\
I think it might be Conner rather than Ray. Ray normally sings in a normal register. He's actually got a pretty good tenor voice.

Oh really? I was almost 100% sure I saw only Ray sang to the mic in the chorus but I could be wrong. Interesting that they don't use backing track like many bands nowadays. They don't use click?

They all play to a click now. They went from no click, to Ray only click, to full click. Just because you use a click doesn't mean you have to using backing vocal tracks.
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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2145 on: August 23, 2017, 11:58:49 AM »
I'm seeing them in Toronto tomorrow!!! Anyone else?

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2146 on: August 23, 2017, 01:05:05 PM »
https://youtu.be/aLSmk1p9Fi0

A short interview with Hen and Charlie, and then a live clip of 1985 in full.

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2147 on: August 23, 2017, 08:03:32 PM »
I have a question about their current setlist. Some sources say there´s an Aquarius Medley halfwat through the set, but I´ve seen reports where they played three songs off Visions instead: The Mind's Eye, Portals and Shapeshifter. I barely know Visions and dont know Aquaruis, and would liek to hear the songs they´ll play before the show tomorrow. Do you guys know what exactly they´re playing?

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2148 on: August 23, 2017, 08:27:02 PM »
I would check setlist.fm tomorrow because tonight's the first show of the NA leg.
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« Reply #2149 on: August 23, 2017, 08:55:00 PM »
I would check setlist.fm tomorrow because tonight's the first show of the NA leg.

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2150 on: August 23, 2017, 11:25:06 PM »
HAKEN, The Shelter, Detroit, MI, USA
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1. Premonition
2. Nocturnal Conspiracy
3. In Memoriam
4. 1985
5. Red Giant
6. Aquarius Medley
7. Cockroach King
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9. The Endless Knot

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That's a hell of a setlist for me. I regret that I don't live in USA... They were in Poland in 2015 I think... or 2016... Anyway, I couldn't attend.... :(

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2151 on: August 24, 2017, 04:01:56 AM »
HAKEN, The Shelter, Detroit, MI, USA
23.08.2017

1. Premonition
2. Nocturnal Conspiracy
3. In Memoriam
4. 1985
5. Red Giant
6. Aquarius Medley
7. Cockroach King
8. The Architect
9. The Endless Knot

encore

10.Visions
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That's a hell of a setlist for me. I regret that I don't live in USA... They were in Poland in 2015 I think... or 2016... Anyway, I couldn't attend.... :(

I saw that!!! Really cool, but it´s a shame they took out Atlas Stone. That´s ok though, should be a great show tonight. I love that they added Premonition as the first song of the show.

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2152 on: August 24, 2017, 06:31:38 AM »
Interesting set list.  If that holds up for this tour. one of the friends going with me is going to be annoyed as heck, since he is a monster fan of Falling Back to Earth and a solid/good fan of most of their other stuff. 

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« Reply #2153 on: August 24, 2017, 06:49:01 AM »
I think the most likely changes we'll see as shows push off is them rotating around the songs from Visions to keep everything practiced for ProgPower when they perform the album in full.
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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2154 on: August 24, 2017, 09:44:36 AM »
When I saw them in London earlier this year, Atlas Stone wasn't on the setlist, but it was still completely kickass :D

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« Reply #2155 on: August 25, 2017, 07:00:43 AM »
Just heard from the promoter of their show in Québec City saying that the Nova Collective wouldn't be playing here because of visa issues (not Richard Henshall fortunately!). I'm guessing it'll be the same for the show in Montréal. That's a shame. I was really looking forward to seeing them play.  :tdwn

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #2156 on: August 25, 2017, 07:59:00 AM »
Nova Collective weren't at the show in Toronto.

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« Reply #2157 on: August 25, 2017, 08:21:53 AM »
Yeah I thought this was known - unfortunately the visa situation was really complicated for Pete. Dan and Matt don't need visas, being Americans themselves. As half the band is American, US customs wouldn't treat them as an overseas band, and so wouldn't do a band visa. Hen is on the Haken one, so he's fine, which just left Pete. He would therefore have had to apply for an individual visa, which probably would have taken too long and might not have been successful anyway.

Such a shame it didn't work out. Stupid American immigration systems.

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« Reply #2158 on: August 25, 2017, 08:25:28 AM »
Yeah I thought this was known - unfortunately the visa situation was really complicated for Pete. Dan and Matt don't need visas, being Americans themselves. As half the band is American, US customs wouldn't treat them as an overseas band, and so wouldn't do a band visa. Hen is on the Haken one, so he's fine, which just left Pete. He would therefore have had to apply for an individual visa, which probably would have taken too long and might not have been successful anyway.

Such a shame it didn't work out. Stupid American immigration systems.

And remember Hen was screwed when they played RoSfest a few years ago as well.
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« Reply #2159 on: August 25, 2017, 11:40:34 AM »
I took this one right after the concert. Richard was quite nice!!




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« Reply #2160 on: August 25, 2017, 11:45:28 AM »
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« Reply #2161 on: August 27, 2017, 12:15:12 PM »
Haken tonight!!! :metal
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« Reply #2162 on: August 27, 2017, 04:20:23 PM »
Just talked to Diego on the street next to the venue. 
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« Reply #2163 on: August 28, 2017, 12:10:39 AM »
That's cool :tup
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« Reply #2164 on: August 28, 2017, 08:02:44 AM »
Here is a very cool moment with Conner having a bass lesson with a young fan behind the venue last night.

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« Reply #2165 on: August 28, 2017, 09:16:31 AM »
I saw on social media they were advertising doing music lessons with members of the band... is that how they are seriously doing them? lol just seems odd

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« Reply #2166 on: August 28, 2017, 09:17:41 AM »
I saw on social media they were advertising doing music lessons with members of the band... is that how they are seriously doing them? lol just seems odd

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« Reply #2167 on: August 28, 2017, 09:18:26 AM »
Yeah but it depends on timing.   maybe it was sound check for the other bands and they couldn't go on stage. you know sometimes somebody can't show up to the gig to the later and that's all they can do
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« Reply #2168 on: August 28, 2017, 09:21:18 AM »
Yea, I mean, whatever works.  I'm just thinking if I paid for it, I'd be kind of bummed to get my lesson in the street  :lol but then again, maybe that's what they agreed upon.

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« Reply #2169 on: August 28, 2017, 09:24:34 AM »
The kid was enjoying every minute. At least what I saw.  I parked behind the venue and was blown away to see this.
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