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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #1645 on: November 22, 2016, 09:01:39 AM »
So it looks like I'll have to get a 2nd copy of Visions in order to get Aquarius. I'm fine with that, if that's what has to be done.
I don't think so. My understanding of the announcement is that they are being released separately as DIFFERENT 2CD versions, where the second disc on each is an instrumental version of the album (like they did on Affinity). Personally I don't really have any interest at all in that second disc, but there you go.

Meh. I kinda want it for completionists sake, but have no reason for that. I'll likely get the vinyl version of both albums though.
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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #1646 on: November 22, 2016, 09:09:00 AM »
Instrumental versions are always fun for me. I very rarely listen to them, but it's fun to have if you want to like sing along by yourself or something or just to hear more of what's going on behind the vocals.

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #1647 on: November 22, 2016, 10:55:19 AM »
I want the vinyl albums and at least the CD for Visions since I don't own it yet. Would be cool if they had a Vinyl+CD combo like what they usually do.
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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #1648 on: November 22, 2016, 12:50:31 PM »
I assume that, like with most releases, the vinyl will come with the main disc.
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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #1649 on: November 22, 2016, 11:20:59 PM »
If it's true that the second disc is all instrumental mixes (is this confirmed?) then I will probably just stick with the vinyl.
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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #1650 on: December 12, 2016, 09:52:04 AM »
Burning Shed and Amazon both have the reissues of Aquarius and Visions available for pre-order, with a February 3rd release date. 2nd CD in each case is an instrumental mix of the album.

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #1651 on: December 13, 2016, 12:11:31 PM »
The way they're splitting the Visions vinyl is bloody stupid. They made side B run 25 minutes (huge no-no for sound quality) just so side D can be Visions instrumental. One of the dumbest decisions I've ever seen.

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #1652 on: December 13, 2016, 12:50:14 PM »
Vinyl in itself is a huge no-no for sound quality, so...

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #1653 on: December 13, 2016, 02:30:22 PM »
Vinyl in itself is a huge no-no for sound quality, so...

That's pretty debatable, and not in the nostalgic/fetishistic/"it sounds warm" way – in the way that it's not blown out and crushed like most digital/CD masters are now. I'll gladly take a well mastered digital version over vinyl anyday, but the fact is almost nobody except Steven Wilson is doing that. It's starting to spread more, but it's usually still lifeless and loud for no reason. So vinyl is usually the only way to avoid that and just hear what the album bloody sounds like. As long as you keep the record clean, it doesn't really get marred by rumble very much, and it breathes better. The only bad thing is the companies cheaping out by sending the CD master to the vinyl manufacturers. Eugh.

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #1654 on: December 13, 2016, 03:09:41 PM »
I think I've mentioned this before, but you can't say that vinyl is universally a better or worse format. There are good vinyl masters and bad ones. But the CD format tends to get abused more often. The Visions vinyl layout is disappointing, but I'll get it anyway. 25 minutes is rough, especially when the end of the song is so loud.

Been awhile since I've listened to Visions but Aquarius could use a new mix. Are these remixed too or just remastered?
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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #1655 on: December 13, 2016, 03:51:22 PM »
Just remasters.

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #1656 on: December 14, 2016, 12:24:43 AM »
I don't take my vinyls out of the plastic, so it's all good to me as long as I get the Visions cover in vinyl format on my shelf.

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #1657 on: December 14, 2016, 02:20:30 PM »
I don't take my vinyls out of the plastic, so it's all good to me as long as I get the Visions cover in vinyl format on my shelf.

Do you mean the shrinkwrap they come in when you buy them (usually)? If so, that's a bad idea. The pressure bends the corners and will help create cover rings you see on all those ancient albums, even when they haven't been abused. The best way to keep the cover pristine is to keep the albums in polybag sleeves, with the records out of the gatefold (keep them in the polybag, just behind the gatefold itself). Guarantees very little dust and no cover warping.

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #1658 on: December 14, 2016, 03:38:02 PM »
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« Reply #1659 on: December 18, 2016, 02:58:29 AM »
I just discovered this band. I listened to Celestial Elixir and Visions.

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #1660 on: December 18, 2016, 06:28:10 AM »
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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #1662 on: December 30, 2016, 05:19:23 PM »
I love listening to the instrumental version of Affinity, have nothing against Ross but there's so much happening in the music arrangements that's easy to miss when you have the vocal layers in the way.
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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #1663 on: December 30, 2016, 06:40:45 PM »
Had just recently been introduced to Haken and that was through suggestions after listening to a Steven Wilson song. First song was "The Point of No Return" and found out I liked that song very much, especially the instrument solo that was divided into sections. Since then, I've been growing used to them a lot.

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #1664 on: December 30, 2016, 06:59:16 PM »
So I'm not usually one to edit albums around, but one of my issues with Affinity has been that I feel the second half (or disc, if you've got the vinyl) isn't quite as strong. I find that listening to the first disc of the vinyl by itself actually works as a full album. So I just made a playlist of that, but with Endless Knot as the closing track. It actually works really well as a 40 minute album to my ears. Maybe check it out sometime if you want a different take on the album.
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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #1665 on: December 30, 2016, 07:40:04 PM »
So I'm not usually one to edit albums around, but one of my issues with Affinity has been that I feel the second half (or disc, if you've got the vinyl) isn't quite as strong. I find that listening to the first disc of the vinyl by itself actually works as a full album. So I just made a playlist of that, but with Endless Knot as the closing track. It actually works really well as a 40 minute album to my ears. Maybe check it out sometime if you want a different take on the album.

I'd sooner drop the opening duo, "Lapse," and "The Endless Knot" than leave out the three you've excised. They're the best on the record after the epics, imo.

01. 1985
02. Earthrise
03. Red Giant
04. The Architect
05. Bound by Gravity

Not that they needed to leave anything off, obviously. The material is strong throughout.

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #1666 on: December 30, 2016, 07:48:59 PM »
So I'm not usually one to edit albums around, but one of my issues with Affinity has been that I feel the second half (or disc, if you've got the vinyl) isn't quite as strong. I find that listening to the first disc of the vinyl by itself actually works as a full album. So I just made a playlist of that, but with Endless Knot as the closing track. It actually works really well as a 40 minute album to my ears. Maybe check it out sometime if you want a different take on the album.

I'd sooner drop the opening duo, "Lapse," and "The Endless Knot" than leave out the three you've excised. They're the best on the record after the epics, imo.

01. 1985
02. Earthrise
03. Red Giant
04. The Architect
05. Bound by Gravity

Not that they needed to leave anything off, obviously. The material is strong throughout.

Pretty much the last statement, but that's a solid 5 track punch.  Hard to leave the Endless Knot off it though (or really the rest of the album).

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #1667 on: December 30, 2016, 08:29:21 PM »
So I'm not usually one to edit albums around, but one of my issues with Affinity has been that I feel the second half (or disc, if you've got the vinyl) isn't quite as strong. I find that listening to the first disc of the vinyl by itself actually works as a full album. So I just made a playlist of that, but with Endless Knot as the closing track. It actually works really well as a 40 minute album to my ears. Maybe check it out sometime if you want a different take on the album.

I'd sooner drop the opening duo, "Lapse," and "The Endless Knot" than leave out the three you've excised. They're the best on the record after the epics, imo.

01. 1985
02. Earthrise
03. Red Giant
04. The Architect
05. Bound by Gravity

Not that they needed to leave anything off, obviously. The material is strong throughout.
I don't really care for Initiate, but I was trying to preserve the thematic flow of the album at least a little. I also considered Endless Knot as the album opener and Earthrise as the closer.

I think Lapse is a great little song. Maybe overshadowed by some of the more involved tunes.
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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #1668 on: January 03, 2017, 12:41:01 PM »
I'm surprised to see many people dont like Bound by Gravity. I like it

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« Reply #1669 on: January 03, 2017, 12:56:05 PM »
I'm surprised to see many people dont like Bound by Gravity. I like it

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Re: Haken v. Affinity, like Baconinity
« Reply #1670 on: January 03, 2017, 01:38:37 PM »
Bound by gravity is the best song on the album tbh

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« Reply #1671 on: January 03, 2017, 01:42:50 PM »
"Bound by Gravity" is my favorite song on the album.
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« Reply #1672 on: January 03, 2017, 02:40:09 PM »
Bound by gravity is the best song on the album tbh

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« Reply #1673 on: January 03, 2017, 03:58:00 PM »
I can't call it the best or my favorite, but it's definitely pretty great.  Certainly at least in the conversation for best song from the record.

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« Reply #1674 on: January 04, 2017, 05:05:20 AM »
Bound by gravity is the best song on the album tbh

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« Reply #1675 on: January 04, 2017, 12:55:26 PM »
Bound by Gravity is somewhere in the middle of the album for me, but it's a song that I can't see people really disliking. It is surprising to me to see people with an active distaste for it.
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« Reply #1676 on: January 04, 2017, 01:40:12 PM »
It's not my favourite, but I certainly prefer it to Red Giant and Earthrise.
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« Reply #1677 on: January 04, 2017, 01:48:51 PM »
Love me some Bound By Gravity. Red Giant is the only song that hasn't really clicked yet with me from the new album.
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« Reply #1679 on: January 13, 2017, 01:23:45 AM »
anyone know if there will be US-based vinyl available for the reissues? really want the color variants from InsideOut EU but its super expensive once you add the import shipping, so wondering if i can get something cheaper without missing out on something cool and limited  :mehlin