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Greatest piece of music of *ALL* times
« on: October 19, 2014, 11:53:18 AM »
There, I asked. What do you think is the best composition of all times?
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« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2014, 11:55:22 AM »
Probably something from 300-500 years ago or the 70s.
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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2014, 12:03:12 PM »
Supper's Ready is #1
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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2014, 12:03:46 PM »
Pachelbel's Canon in D

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EDIT - Serious answer, though? If I had to pick a SINGLE PIECE of music, I would say "The Whirlwind" by Transatlantic. It's long, it's epic, it's got ups and downs, lots of musical and lyrical themes, it's an emotional roller coaster with wonderful performances by every band member. It's not my FAVORITE TA album (that would be BAF, at least my edit of it), but as a single piece of music, it's just astonishing.

I'd also rank pieces like DT's "Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence", Rush's "2112" and Yes' "Awaken" and "Gates Of Delerium" (especially for the closing "Soon" section) up there as well.

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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2014, 01:03:17 PM »
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, the song. Beethoven's Moolinght sonata would be at #2 though, it touches me so hard when I play it.

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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2014, 01:23:27 PM »
Igor Stravinsky's The Rite of Spring or Firebird. Either way, he wins.
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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2014, 01:48:04 PM »
Igor Stravinsky's The Rite of Spring or Firebird. Either way, he wins.

Thumbs up for Stravinsky! He and Holst are two of my favorite 20th century classical composers.

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« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2014, 02:10:12 PM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_considered_the_best

From that list, I would choose Beatles' A Day in the Life, Hotel California or American Pie.
Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata is a good suggestion too.

In the prog world, I would suggest The Carpet Crawlers.
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« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2014, 02:39:56 PM »
All things considered, Rhapsody in Blue.
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« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2014, 02:45:21 PM »
All things considered, Rhapsody in Blue.

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« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2014, 02:46:05 PM »
Beethoven's 5th. Has there ever been a more metal riff?
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« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2014, 02:56:56 PM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_considered_the_best

From that list, I would choose Beatles' A Day in the Life, Hotel California or American Pie.
Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata is a good suggestion too.

In the prog world, I would suggest The Carpet Crawlers.

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« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2014, 03:18:54 PM »

Echoes.

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« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2014, 03:20:36 PM »
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« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2014, 04:26:53 PM »
He and Holst are two of my favorite 20th century classical composers.

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« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2014, 04:27:56 PM »
For me, it would be definitely Beethoven's 9th Symphony.

There hasn't been a greater musical achievement of such magnitude ever since IMO.
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« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2014, 04:59:40 PM »
For me, it would be definitely Beethoven's 9th Symphony.

There hasn't been a greater musical achievement of such magnitude ever since IMO.

Obviously this whole thread is of extremely personal opinion, but, I have to ask, isn't there the danger of confusing quantity with quality?
I kinda suspect the same thing happening with the poster who suggested Whirlwind, which is also over an hour of audio. Are those two pieces of constant high quality, or is it just easy to blend out the weak parts and remember the strong ones? If the piece is long enough, there's bound to be enough sections you will like.
When I suggested for example A Day in the Life or Hotel California, I thought those two songs shine because there are no bad parts. They aren't crazy long, but in that time frame they deliver salvo after salvo of awesomeness.
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« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2014, 05:06:43 PM »
I farted earlier. It brought tears to my eyes.

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« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2014, 06:10:21 PM »
I'll third on either of the Stravinsky pieces.

The other candidate for me is John Coltrane's A Love Supreme (big shock, I know).
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« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2014, 06:25:56 PM »
For me, it would be definitely Beethoven's 9th Symphony.

There hasn't been a greater musical achievement of such magnitude ever since IMO.

Obviously this whole thread is of extremely personal opinion, but, I have to ask, isn't there the danger of confusing quantity with quality?
I kinda suspect the same thing happening with the poster who suggested Whirlwind, which is also over an hour of audio. Are those two pieces of constant high quality, or is it just easy to blend out the weak parts and remember the strong ones? If the piece is long enough, there's bound to be enough sections you will like (and both last over an hour).
When I suggested for example A Day in the Life or Hotel California, I thought those two songs shine because there are no bad parts. They aren't crazy long, but in that time frame they deliver salvo after salvo of awesomeness.
I get what you mean, and your examples illustrate quite nicely your point. I do think that being able to pack a lot of awesomeness in a short period of time is a work of genius, and there have been really few groups of musicians that have achieved such a feat.

That being said, I had the chance of witnessing the 9th performed by a local orchestra a couple of months ago and it was one of the most mesmerzing musical experiences I've ever lived. There are no dull moments in any of the four movements whatsoever, and I don't think the 9th can be compared to The Whirlwind in any way but by their length.

I mean, the 9th (as well as most of Beethoven's work and most of the greats from the past) has stood the test of time and will continue to be a reference to a whole period in music history and the masterpiece work of one of the most gifted musicians that ever lived. I think The Whirlwind is a great album (not better than Bridge Across Forever if we jump to the prog wagon), but I don't think that it will be remembered in 50 years as one of the albums that defined a generation/period/anything.
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« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2014, 06:32:46 PM »
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I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2014, 07:46:06 PM »
For me, it would be definitely Beethoven's 9th Symphony.

There hasn't been a greater musical achievement of such magnitude ever since IMO.

Obviously this whole thread is of extremely personal opinion, but, I have to ask, isn't there the danger of confusing quantity with quality?
I kinda suspect the same thing happening with the poster who suggested Whirlwind, which is also over an hour of audio. Are those two pieces of constant high quality, or is it just easy to blend out the weak parts and remember the strong ones? If the piece is long enough, there's bound to be enough sections you will like (and both last over an hour).
When I suggested for example A Day in the Life or Hotel California, I thought those two songs shine because there are no bad parts. They aren't crazy long, but in that time frame they deliver salvo after salvo of awesomeness.
I get what you mean, and your examples illustrate quite nicely your point. I do think that being able to pack a lot of awesomeness in a short period of time is a work of genius, and there have been really few groups of musicians that have achieved such a feat.

That being said, I had the chance of witnessing the 9th performed by a local orchestra a couple of months ago and it was one of the most mesmerzing musical experiences I've ever lived. There are no dull moments in any of the four movements whatsoever, and I don't think the 9th can be compared to The Whirlwind in any way but by their length.

I mean, the 9th (as well as most of Beethoven's work and most of the greats from the past) has stood the test of time and will continue to be a reference to a whole period in music history and the masterpiece work of one of the most gifted musicians that ever lived. I think The Whirlwind is a great album (not better than Bridge Across Forever if we jump to the prog wagon), but I don't think that it will be remembered in 50 years as one of the albums that defined a generation/period/anything.

Yeah, the biggest impetus for my post was of course the Whirlwind suggestion. I think Beethoven's 9th clearly stood the test of time.
I've just seen a lot of times over the years on this forum that people equate longwinded pieces with good music.
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« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2014, 07:58:46 PM »
I'm honestly not sure what song(s) I would rank as the greatest piece of music of all time. I'd really have to think hard on that one...

I will say though that the earlier mentioning of Awaken by Yes is definitely a good pick. Don't know if I'd go for it myself, but that's actually a really smart contender.
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« Reply #29 on: October 19, 2014, 08:42:36 PM »
For me, it would be definitely Beethoven's 9th Symphony.

There hasn't been a greater musical achievement of such magnitude ever since IMO.

Obviously this whole thread is of extremely personal opinion, but, I have to ask, isn't there the danger of confusing quantity with quality?
I kinda suspect the same thing happening with the poster who suggested Whirlwind, which is also over an hour of audio. Are those two pieces of constant high quality, or is it just easy to blend out the weak parts and remember the strong ones? If the piece is long enough, there's bound to be enough sections you will like.
When I suggested for example A Day in the Life or Hotel California, I thought those two songs shine because there are no bad parts. They aren't crazy long, but in that time frame they deliver salvo after salvo of awesomeness.
I used to make the same argument about A Change of Seasons / Six Degrees and Blind Faith / Lines in the Sand years ago.

I'm quite the sucker for buying into the colossal reputation that certain albums have. Most, of course, just become good/great albums that don't have any huge lasting impact. A few painful cases have crashed and burned under the weight of my anticipation and spectacularly failed to deliver on their mythos - the two biggest ones were The Wall and Sgt Peppers.

I never had greater expectations for a piece of music than Beethoven's 9th. I kid you not, when I bought it, I didn't dare listen to it for nine months. It just sat there waiting amongst my other music until I could muster up the balls to put it on.

And it didn't disappoint me at all. Looking back, I guess I should find that incredible, but it's just that good, from start to finish, which isn't something I'd say about many of Beethoven's works. In fact, the Moonlight Sonata has an amazing first movement, a brief bridge of a second, and then a jarring third that, to me, actually detracts from the impact of the first.

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« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2014, 09:07:41 PM »
Others that come to mind:

John Butler's Ocean, a song which he wrote more than 15 years ago and constantly adapts live. It's still getting better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHUPA_JDHUw

Charles Mingus' The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady (four tracks, but it's all one suite)

Rachmaninoff's 3rd Piano Concerto

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« Reply #32 on: October 19, 2014, 09:20:01 PM »
Yeah, the biggest impetus for my post was of course the Whirlwind suggestion. I think Beethoven's 9th clearly stood the test of time.
I've just seen a lot of times over the years on this forum that people equate longwinded pieces with good music.
Agreed. To me, The Whirlwind isn't any more special than other epics I've heard, it's a lesser epic to me even. It's only distinction is it's length.
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Another one of my favorite pieces of music is called Future by Quentin Doyen. It's beautiful.

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« Reply #34 on: October 19, 2014, 10:34:58 PM »
All things considered, Rhapsody in Blue.

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