The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!

[wolfking]

I never really gave that live album much of a listen yet I own the cd.  Need to dig it out.

[BlobVanDam]

...switched to H&H's Live at Wacken 2009.

One of the best live albums released in the last 20 years. Dio is on fire, as is Iommi. Amazing performance with an epic version of Heaven & Hell.

I believe some of my video work is on the DVD, on the projection screen for much of Bible Black iirc.

[jjrock88]

...switched to H&H's Live at Wacken 2009.

One of the best live albums released in the last 20 years. Dio is on fire, as is Iommi. Amazing performance with an epic version of Heaven & Hell.

I believe some of my video work is on the DVD, on the projection screen for much of Bible Black iirc.

 

[wolfking]

...switched to H&H's Live at Wacken 2009.

One of the best live albums released in the last 20 years. Dio is on fire, as is Iommi. Amazing performance with an epic version of Heaven & Hell.

I believe some of my video work is on the DVD, on the projection screen for much of Bible Black iirc.

That's fucking incredible.

[bl5150]

That link lead to this one. I really like it. Can't find much about them because their name is pretty much taken by fire safety products 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I8_XzqngZRk

NOt bad.  Nothing special though for me.

I thought it was pretty good Paul , especially for an indie but yeah............zero info around aside from one guy's Facebook page which has no info on the band.  Shame.

There's actually some really good unknown bands out of South America at the moment , a couple of which will be in the upcoming podcasts.

One thing I did find while searching for the band is the new official video for this thread     it's meant to be a funny at Slayer's expense but I enjoy watching metal crushing all the prog - and Nickelback   Although I think Steve Wilson got away 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4iAlQY61fE&feature=youtu.be

[TAC]

 

Oh my God, that is so funny!!! I'm dying!

[Kwyjibo]

 

[wolfking]

To my surprise I managed to pick up the new Accept DVD/2CD in store at a JB (Aussie chain) today.  Was not expecting it at all, so was a very nice surprise.  The cd is sounding great so far.

[Lowdz]

That link lead to this one. I really like it. Can't find much about them because their name is pretty much taken by fire safety products 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I8_XzqngZRk

NOt bad.  Nothing special though for me.

I thought it was pretty good Paul , especially for an indie but yeah............zero info around aside from one guy's Facebook page which has no info on the band.  Shame.

There's actually some really good unknown bands out of South America at the moment , a couple of which will be in the upcoming podcasts.

One thing I did find while searching for the band is the new official video for this thread     it's meant to be a funny at Slayer's expense but I enjoy watching metal crushing all the prog - and Nickelback   Although I think Steve Wilson got away 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4iAlQY61fE&feature=youtu.be

I contacted the guy on a Facebook and he sent me the mp3s for those two songs. That's all they have at the moment.

[jjrock88]

To my surprise I managed to pick up the new Accept DVD/2CD in store at a JB (Aussie chain) today.  Was not expecting it at all, so was a very nice surprise.  The cd is sounding great so far.

My copy is arriving this week! Hopefully Monday

[TAC]

OK, so I'm not sure it should matter, but I liked the fact that the Tornillo Era Accept also included Herman Frank and Stefan Schwartzman (sp?) as they were also in parts of the Udo Era.
Now, with a new drummer and guitarist, I just feel it's different. Not that these guys can't play or the songs are any different. I just liked the fact that Accept was well, Accept.

The new DVD barely shows the second guitarist.

[jjrock88]

What was the reason that Herman and Stefan were booted from the band?

[wolfking]

OK, so I'm not sure it should matter, but I liked the fact that the Tornillo Era Accept also included Herman Frank and Stefan Schwartzman (sp?) as they were also in parts of the Udo Era.
Now, with a new drummer and guitarist, I just feel it's different. Not that these guys can't play or the songs are any different. I just liked the fact that Accept was well, Accept.

The new DVD barely shows the second guitarist.

I've only watched a couple of songs but I sort of feel the same.  It just doesn't feel as classic or something.  It's become the Wolf and to a lesser extent Mark show.

What was the reason that Herman and Stefan were booted from the band?

I have no idea.  Did they not both just leave on their own accord.

[Lowdz]

On my latest YouTube crawl I came across Roxxcalibur, a tribute band to the NWOBHM. They cover tracks by the bands from back in the day, give them a polish, with a decent singer. Quite enjoyable.

[bl5150]

On my latest YouTube crawl I came across Roxxcalibur, a tribute band to the NWOBHM. They cover tracks by the bands from back in the day, give them a polish, with a decent singer. Quite enjoyable.

They're one of those bands that I researched , got an album or two and set aside for later (and never got to it ).   Looks like I have releases from 2011 and 2015.......looks like you were playing the 2011 one.   Will give 'em a spin soon.

[jjrock88]

I just envision that Brent has stacks of cd's in a closet that he bought but still hasn't gotten around to listening to.  And just like it would be in television, everytime Brent opens up the closet door, the cd's come crashing down on his head.

[Lowdz]

Just seen that WASP are touring the uk this year playing the whole of Zcrimson Idol. I'm there. 

[jjrock88]

They are re-recording The Crimson Idol too.

I'm always a little leery of re-recorded albums, but this might be pretty cool.

[Lowdz]

They are re-recording The Crimson Idol too.

I'm always a little leery of re-recorded albums, but this might be pretty cool.

Certainly doesn't need a rerecord. Must be a label thing.

[jjrock88]

Re-recordings are never better, at least none that I can think off of the top of my head.

At best they are average-good and can be a good supplement to the originals.  But it's better to leave all classics alone.

[Lowdz]

Re-recordings are never better, at least none that I can think off of the top of my head.

At best they are average-good and can be a good supplement to the originals.  But it's better to leave all classics alone.

I see why bands would do it if they aren't making any money off their best/popular work.
I wonder if Blackie will go all out and throw an orchestra on it or something. With all the pain of doing it the first time I'm surprised he's going there again.
I hope he can recreate the sound because those guitars were huge.

[bl5150]

I just envision that Brent has stacks of cd's in a closet that he bought but still hasn't gotten around to listening to.  And just like it would be in television, everytime Brent opens up the closet door, the cd's come crashing down on his head.

 

Thankfully in the last few years most of my purchases (especially speculative ones) have been in digital format - makes it easier for the podcast too (no need to be ripping hundreds of discs beyond what I did with my original CD collection).   So I have one big hard drive to fall on my head      I have many,many hundreds of albums that I have discovered/researched and never got around to .  So hopefully there's some gems in there that I can share at some point - I'm sure there is.  Time is the only obstacle.

[wolfking]

Just seen that WASP are touring the uk this year playing the whole of Zcrimson Idol. I'm there. 

I saw the show a few years back when they came down here and it was fucking awesome, definitely check it out.

They are re-recording The Crimson Idol too.

I'm always a little leery of re-recorded albums, but this might be pretty cool.

The fuck?  Please Blackie, no.

[jjrock88]

I think when I first imported all of my cd's onto Itunes, it took like 6 months overall lol

[bl5150]

I think when I first imported all of my cd's onto Itunes, it took like 6 months overall lol

Yeah -not a small job.   I did it while I worked at home and just got into a rhythm where I was doing maybe 6-10 discs an hour .   it took me somewhere around 5-6 weeks doing that full time.

[TAC]

I just envision that Brent has stacks of cd's in a closet that he bought but still hasn't gotten around to listening to.  And just like it would be in television, everytime Brent opens up the closet door, the cd's come crashing down on his head.

 

Thankfully in the last few years most of my purchases (especially speculative ones) have been in digital format - makes it easier for the podcast too (no need to be ripping hundreds of discs beyond what I did with my original CD collection).   So I have one big hard drive to fall on my head      I have many,many hundreds of albums that I have discovered/researched and never got around to .  So hopefully there's some gems in there that I can share at some point - I'm sure there is.  Time is the only obstacle.

I can see in the future in some Planet Of The Apes type world, archeologists will dig up Brent's Album Ratings Spreadsheet, and the will think they found the great human equation.

[jjrock88]

 

[bl5150]

If they're metal fans it'll sure save them some time and give them more time to dig shit up

[TAC]

Here's a picture taken with the L, Brent dig site marker.



Yup, definitely Metal Fans!

[wolfking]

Brent, just curious, what format and bitrate did you rip all your cd's to?

[bl5150]

Brent, just curious, what format and bitrate did you rip all your cd's to?

I have never spent much time on the various players/file formats etc....and although I have a great stereo system that's worth about twice what my car is I don't consider myself a full-on audiophile.  When I bought that system I was in a totally different financial world and was much more interested in sound quality.  These days I actually listen to most of my music in my office through my Swan speakers.

So in the end , despite all the audophiles telling me I should use FLAC and Foobar and whatever , I just stuck with iTunes.   So I used their lossless format for my CDs (ALAC I think) which is good enough.

When I need to use them for something else (like the podcast/mp3 player) I just convert the files to standard mp3 @ 320.

I still haven't finished getting through Firewind - will let you know what I think when I do.

[Bolsters]

There's no difference between FLAC and ALAC as far as sound quality is concerned anyway. And if your media player of choice is iTunes you couldn't use FLAC, since it doesn't support it.

My collection is roughly 30% FLAC now and the rest 320kbps MP3. I decided that I didn't need it to be 100% FLAC because I didn't think I listened to that other 70% enough anymore to warrant it. Generally if I love something enough and/or listen to it a lot, I'll have it as FLAC.

[bl5150]

There's no difference between FLAC and ALAC as far as sound quality is concerned anyway. And if your media player of choice is iTunes you couldn't use FLAC, since it doesn't support it.

You will find plenty who will disagree with you on ALAC/FLAC (despite them both theoretically being "lossless") - in the end I decided I didn't care .  As I mentioned I chose ALAC as I decided to stick with iTunes (ie  I was aware that FLAC wouldn't work and , as mentioned , didn't bother with stuff like Foobar which a lot of FLAC users recommend)

[BlobVanDam]

iTunes is shit, but lossless is lossless. Don't listen to anything audiophiles think in terms of audio quality, they're often full of shit.
I use foobar because it's so customizable and has tabbed playlists, I only use FLAC for some special albums though (basically just DT related albums + GNR - AFD). Everything else is 320kb. Nobody's going to tell the difference.

[bl5150]

Yep - full of shit a lot of the time      Having said that I don't have any trouble believing that ALAC could be inferior to FLAC.   "Lossless is lossless" is like saying "a photocopy is a photocopy" .........the machinery (or in this case the FLAC codec vs ALAC codec) can make a difference.

But yeah.......in the end I decided my ear isn't as good as the audiophiles and vinyl hipsters and so it's not worth worrying about