The Official Hard Rock / Classic Metal Music Discussion and Memorabilia Thread!

[wolfking]

Skunkworks is top 3 Bruce for me, behind CW and AOB of course.  I think it's brilliant.

I'm a fan of Dennis Ward. He needs to get back with a great PC 69 album though.

Yes, Ceremonial was awesome.

[TAC]

Classic Armored Saint footage of Aftermath:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N25RzGBgCio

 

[bl5150]

Nice Tim 

I think Armored Saint must get more love here than on any other internet site 

[jjrock88]

That's why this is the number one thread in the history of threads!

[TAC]

That's why this is the number one thread in the history of threads!

 

So true!

Nice Tim 

I think Armored Saint must get more love here than on any other internet site 

I was just watching A Trip Through Red Times and that clip came up. Aftermath really shows how much talent that band actually had. Those early albums really needed a live setting to do them justice. You watch Dave and it really hits home. He went way too young.
The last time I saw him was in late '88 and he walked right by my friend and I and he was so cool. He told us that it was going to be a great show and he hoped we'd enjoy it. By that time, Jeff Duncan had joined the band and we had no idea what he was going through. They played Reign Of Fire and Spineless that night, a preview to Symbol Of Salvation.

[jjrock88]

Symbol of Salvation should have taken the band to the next level

[TAC]

Symbol of Salvation should have taken the band to the next level

Music wise it did, but popularity wise it did not. I remember reading an article in Kerrang right before SOS came out. They basically said that if it wasn't commercially successful, they'd be likely calling it a day.

[jjrock88]

Yeah that's what I meant, popularity wise. It had some songs that should have gotten major radio play.

[bl5150]

One song from SoS that doesn't seem to get much mention but could well be my all time fave of theirs (perhaps in a tie with a couple of others)  is Tainted Past.   

And the few songs that I really liked on Sound Of White Noise sounded more like Armored Saint than Anthrax

[TAC]

One song from SoS that doesn't seem to get much mention but could well be my all time fave of theirs (perhaps in a tie with a couple of others)  is Tainted Past.   

And the few songs that I really liked on Sound Of White Noise sounded more like Armored Saint than Anthrax

Tainted Past might be one of my favorite tunes on the album. "...and let cooler heads prevail" 

I also love Burning Question. That tune totally rocks!




Hi Pro Glo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It actually took me a bit to get into ASOWN. But it has aged greatly!

[Lowdz]

They just weren't on my radar back in the day, though I was aware of them. SoS is an absolute cracker though. Discovered because of you guys raving about it (and the Saint), so for that I thank you 

[wolfking]

Solution .45 (again hahahahaha)

I've only listened through once so far, but I seem to recall a track or two that didn't have any growls.  Maybe I'm misremembering?

I think just the ballad, The Curse That Keeps on Giving and the more melodic rocker, What Turns the Wheels, which may be my fav on the album.

[Samsara]

Regarding Symbol of Salvation -- I agree, musically, it took the band to the next level. Such a great record from top to bottom. I really enjoyed that anniversary edition they released a few years back. Not a regular listen, but it was cool to hear those songs as demos and how they were brought to life.

It was a terrible tragedy that Dave Pritchard passed. And I think John going to Anthrax and Armored Saint going silent was a bummer for people who were fans back then (I only really discovered Armored Saint in the early 2000s through my wife). But I have to say, those non-Saint years really enabled Joey to blossom as a songwriter. When they came back with Revelation, it was pretty intense. He really wrote some great riffs. And even now, I think this last record, Win Hands Down, is the best thing they've done since Symbol, and that's pretty much all Joey musically, and all John's vocal melodies and lyrics.

[Lowdz]

Off topic, but it's Tony Martin singing a Xmas song ffs 

https://youtu.be/xAjTEPRDgpA

[jjrock88]

Off topic, but it's Tony Martin singing a Xmas song ffs 

https://youtu.be/xAjTEPRDgpA

Weird Christmas tune.

I'm still hoping that Iommi does another project of some kind with Martin in 2017

[bl5150]

Wow - last week Randy Rhoads would've been 60   

[TAC]

Damn!

[wolfking]

Off topic, but it's Tony Martin singing a Xmas song ffs 

https://youtu.be/xAjTEPRDgpA

Dunno if I want to click on this or not.

[TAC]

You know you do!


It's actually not bad. A shame Tony Martin has not been more active. He sounds pretty good here.

[TAC]

@ Hath!

https://metalreviews.com/reviews/album/9601

[Big Hath]

 

[Lowdz]

I couldn't get past the first two songs

[jjrock88]

@ Hath!

https://metalreviews.com/reviews/album/9601

That's some manly metal!  Pretty pretty good.

[wolfking]

You know you do!


It's actually not bad. A shame Tony Martin has not been more active. He sounds pretty good here.

He sounds cool, not my thing though.  But yeah, it is a shame he isn't more active, his song on Magnus Karlsson's album was amazing too and he sounded fantastic.

But now, I'll match your Tony Martin and raise you a Blaze Bayley.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYyOw9IZHI0

 

[jjrock88]

what in the blue hell was that lol

[Big Hath]

a few of the better 2016 albums for me that I don't think were mentioned were Sunburst, Death Angel, Almanac, Witherscape (heh), Omnium Gatherum (HA!), and Myrath.

Brent, go back to those first two Eternal Champion songs if you haven't already and see if one of them warrants a spot.

just took a listen to the latest Tygers of Pan Tang that came out just a month or two ago.  My initial impression was that is was pretty solid with a couple of tracks I thought were really good.

[Samsara]

re: Tony Martin -- I could have sworn I read multiple times this year that him and Iommi are planning on doing stuff together (or Iommi and he wanted to) after Sabbath called it a day.

Anyone else remember that?

[jjrock88]

re: Tony Martin -- I could have sworn I read multiple times this year that him and Iommi are planning on doing stuff together (or Iommi and he wanted to) after Sabbath called it a day.

Anyone else remember that?

yeah that was reported a few months back and it's likely in regards to the Headless Cross, Tyr, Cross Purposes and Forbidden reissues.  Those are the last ones left for the Sabbath back catalogue and I think Tony wanted a couple of new songs for them.  It would be awesome if this actually happens, and it sounds like Iommi and Martin made amends.  I don't think there was major heat between the two to begin with, so by all accounts this should happen.  I would imagine that Iommi would like to work with Martin because there would be much less drama then working with Ozzy and should be easy going.  There is still demand for those Martin albums and I would be getting the upcoming reissues for sure!

[Lowdz]

a few of the better 2016 albums for me that I don't think were mentioned were Sunburst, Death Angel, Almanac, Witherscape (heh), Omnium Gatherum (HA!), and Myrath.

Brent, go back to those first two Eternal Champion songs if you haven't already and see if one of them warrants a spot.

just took a listen to the latest Tygers of Pan Tang that came out just a month or two ago.  My initial impression was that is was pretty solid with a couple of tracks I thought were really good.

I really enjoyed it when I played it a couple of weeks ago. Put it on my Xmas list.

[bl5150]

Hmm - new Place Vendome

https://youtu.be/WN_BFSOxdck


The riffs are starting to get "samey" (if they weren't already) and not sure I like what Kiske is doing with his voice early in the verses.   Sounds like he has a mouth full of Oreos and is singing out the corner of his mouth.

[TAC]

not sure I like what Kiske is doing with his voice early in the verses.   Sounds like he has a mouth full or Oreos and is singing out the corner of his mouth.

It does. he needs some milk!


As awesome as the first PV album was, it is a suck project. The last album was so fucking bad Winger laughed at it.


This is actually better than anything I heard off the last album though.

[BlobVanDam]

I'm glad I'm not the only one put off by the voice.
It sounded fine up till then, although nothing new.

[TAC]

You don't like Oreos??

[BlobVanDam]

I like the taste of Oreos, but not the sound.

[TAC]